Rafa Benítez (now unemployed)

[Paully]

Rafa called the players 'Donkeys' to the press. Did I miss that ?

 

I’ve never heard about that comment either!

[Mr Logic]

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/the-argentinian-affair-rafas-remarkable-wooing-of-mascherano-434942.html

 

The Argentinian affair: Rafa's remarkable wooing of Mascherano

How Liverpool's manager won the heart and mind of a World Cup star. Now Anfield must await the approval of the Premier League

 

    By Jason Burt

    Sunday 4 February 2007 01:00

 

A few weeks ago Javier Mascherano had decided to try to end the madness of his short, surreal career at West Ham United and join Juventus. Even though the Italian club, given their own dramatic travails, could hardly be described as a bastion of sanity, they appeared an attrac-tive haven for the miserable young Argentinian midfielder - and perhaps one more suited to his style of play. The Old Lady had charmed El Jefe (The Chief). Then Mascherano received a knock on the door of his apartment in London's Docklands. It was Rafael Benitez. The Liverpool manager turned up unannounced and wanted to know why Mascherano had chosen the Stadio Delle Alpi ahead of Anfield. Over the next four hours Benitez talked to Mascherano as no coach had talked to him before, and the 22-year-old was utterly mesmerised. He also changed his mind. He would now try to join Liverpool. During the conversation Benitez had sat leaning over the coffee table and enthusiastically using the decorative stones placed on it to represent Liverpool players, just as a father might improvise with salt and pepper pots to explain the game to his son. Benitez told Mascherano exactly where he fitted into the Liverpool team - apparently alongside Xabi Alonso, holding in the centre of midfield, with Steven Gerrard on the right.

 

It is a story that suggested the nightmare would turn into a fairytale for Mascherano. But that would be far too simple an outcome for the extraordinary saga that started last August, on the final day of the summer transfer window, when it was announced that Mascherano and Carlos Tevez, two of the hottest talents in world football, had joined West Ham. And without a transfer fee being paid. No one could quite believe it. West Ham crowed how they had beaten off other clubs for the signatures, but it soon became apparent that no one else would have accepted the prohibitive terms under which the two players had arrived in England. Those terms have dogged proceedings ever since.

 

On another deadline day, the end of the January window last Wednesday, Kia Joorabchian, the Argentinians' mentor and the man who appears to control their "economic rights", was pacing his executive box at the Emirates Stadium. On the pitch, Arsenal were playing Tottenham Hotspur for a place in the League Cup final. Off it, Joorabchian was waiting for the mobile call to tell him that the Premier League had ratified the paperwork to allow Mascherano to move. It didn't come.

 

The documents were signed and delivered but Joorabchian, the 35-year-old Anglo-Iranian entrepreneur who had fronted a bid to buy West Ham and is looking to acquire another Premiership club, was told nothing would be agreed until the player's contract was scrutinised the following day. Such is the mad sequence of events that when Joorabchian asked where Mascherano, who he had hoped to sell for 25m euros (£16.5m) but is moving on an 18-month "loan", should report for training the next day - West Ham or Liver- pool - nobody knew the answer.

 

His frustration was compounded because the Premier League had written to Fifa for dispensation of their rules so that Mascherano could move to a third club within a season. Fifa had waited until the evening before the transfer window closed to grant this, partly because they did not want to receive a flood of similar requests. It is a confusing situation. Mascherano's lawyers were always confident the Fifa rule could be challenged, even though the organisation had written to West Ham in December warning them that neither player could be offloaded. Neither was wanted by the new chairman, Eggert Magnusson, who, understandably, thought the deal stank. Just as importantly he also did not want Joorabchian, who was involved in a staggering 19 deals last month, to continue having links with West Ham.

 

It meant that the Hammers washed their hands of the whole thing. Tevez was playing, so it was harder for him to argue his career was being damaged. Crucially, Mascherano's contract appeared to differ from Tevez's, as did the issue of exactly who owned each player. That is still mired in secrecy, hence the hold-up in Mascherano being allowed to move to Liverpool.

 

The Premier League are now seeking clarity, are scrutinising all the documentation and have emailed clubs to detail the relevant rule - U18 - which deals with the issue of player ownership. Basically it states that Premiership clubs are prohibited from signing players who are "owned by a third party" who would have the "ability materially to influence its policies or the performance of its teams". A comment by West Ham's manager, Alan Curbishley, was illuminating. Asked to explain Mascherano's departure, he said: "He hadn't played. Carlos was playing and was more settled, so I think they decided as soon as the window opened that there was a situation that could happen. I decided perhaps we should not stand in his way and to keep it clean we kept out of it."

 

It is who the "they" are that is the vexed issue, with Joorab-chian, who appears to have a 50 per cent stake; the company he previously worked with, MSI; and various other parties. West Ham held the registrations, with the players signing four-year deals, but there was another strand with owners who had a contractual right with West Ham over who they could be sold to in the future, for how much and when. Exactly who owns the players remains unknown, because the companies are registered in offshore tax havens.

 

It is a mess that needs clearing up so that it does not happen again. For a start, West Ham did not even appear to know that Mascherano had passed a medical and agreed terms with Liverpool some time ago. Were they aware that Benitez had been to see the player? And, if not, does that constitute "tapping up"? Curbishley has suggested West Ham did know, but added: "When Liverpool lodged their interest as a club we knew it was not all down to us, and we didn't want to stand in his way. That is why it was allowed to happen."

 

What is perhaps less confusing is why Mascherano, who played every minute of Argen-tina's World Cup campaign, did not succeed at Upton Park. In five months he played just five matches - and lost them all. But West Ham were the wrong team. The high-tempo, energetic style of play did not suit him. A struggling side, a club in turmoil failing to match last season's achievements, was not the right place.

 

"I arrived there with the hope of playing," he has since said, "so that European people would know me." He has certainly raised his profile. But not for the right reasons. Mascherano will hope Benitez can now alter that.

[stlouismag]

New post on Rafa's blog this morning: http://www.rafabenitez.com/web/in/blog/difficult-times/135/

 

An update and insights on preseason training - half of which he did in China and half in Spain as the pandemic was hitting its stride. As you'd expect from Rafa, he is ever-inquisitive and, as a result, has thoughtful insights on how different places are handling the pandemic. Argh, I miss him being part of the Club so much. 

 

The idea of Brucey even thinking to pay attention to the things Rafa talks about in depth (in a second language!), let alone learning from them, or, Hell, even cobbling together one coherent sentence on the subject . . . .

[Dr Jinx]

New post on Rafa's blog this morning: http://www.rafabenitez.com/web/in/blog/difficult-times/135/

 

An update and insights on preseason training - half of which he did in China and half in Spain as the pandemic was hitting its stride. As you'd expect from Rafa, he is ever-inquisitive and, as a result, has thoughtful insights on how different places are handling the pandemic. Argh, I miss him being part of the Club so much. 

 

The idea of Brucey even thinking to pay attention to the things Rafa talks about in depth (in a second language!), let alone learning from them, or, Hell, even cobbling together one coherent sentence on the subject . . . .

 

He sounds rather ingrained in the whole life there. Maybe that ship has sailed as far as nufc is concerned.

[Superior Acuña]

Rafa called the players 'Donkeys' to the press. Did I miss that ?

 

I’ve never heard about that comment either!

 

Don't think he means he literally called them donkeys, but the way he would be talking about needing a better players and that.

[TRon]

New post on Rafa's blog this morning: http://www.rafabenitez.com/web/in/blog/difficult-times/135/

 

An update and insights on preseason training - half of which he did in China and half in Spain as the pandemic was hitting its stride. As you'd expect from Rafa, he is ever-inquisitive and, as a result, has thoughtful insights on how different places are handling the pandemic. Argh, I miss him being part of the Club so much. 

 

The idea of Brucey even thinking to pay attention to the things Rafa talks about in depth (in a second language!), let alone learning from them, or, Hell, even cobbling together one coherent sentence on the subject . . . .

 

He sounds rather ingrained in the whole life there. Maybe that ship has sailed as far as nufc is concerned.

 

I didn't get that from reading the article tbh, it was mostly about how Asian countries are handling the virus compared to Europe.

 

I mean, with Rafa, he will always go in 100% anyway on any project he's involved with, but that usually just means the duration of the contract, unless he's really found a place he can call home.

[joeyt]

 

Interesting, Gouffran was alright in the Championship, but was quite clear he wasn't a Prem player

[Unlucky Luque]

Probably worked hard, kept his head down and followed instructions.

Such a strange player. Just so utterly unremarkable yet unprovoking compared to others from the same era. I always forget he played for us.

 

Mad that he has over 100 games for us.

[Guest Butcher]

One year since his last game in charge. Jesus time flies.

 

What a fantastic away day. Cracking atmosphere.

[Dr.Spaceman]

 

Interesting, Gouffran was alright in the Championship, but was quite clear he wasn't a Prem player

 

He would have been a better option on the left than Atsu.

[Chicane]

Probably worked hard, kept his head down and followed instructions.

Such a strange player. Just so utterly unremarkable yet unprovoking compared to others from the same era. I always forget he played for us.

 

Mad that he has over 100 games for us.

 

Feel that way about a bunch of players like Gouffran, Obertan, Marveaux etc. from the Pardew era

 

 

 

 

[Guest]

Didn’t he arrive more as a second striker, had a good start playing there, before Pardew turned him into more of a grafting winger?

[Village Idiot]

Sounds similar to what a lot of Liverpool players have said. Even the players that don't like his methods or his manner still respect their effectiveness.

 

Common story in all the teams he's managed in Spain. He's a "down to business" type manager who's never done much babysitting of players. It doesn't always work, mind. It didn't at Real Madrid where managing the dressing room is as important as the tactics.

[ponsaelius]

Atsu was effective enough on the break because of his pace and had some useful displays first season back, as rubbish as he is.

 

Gouffran was no use at the top level. Got to question Rafa a bit if he genuinely wanted to keep him around.

[The Prophet]

 

Interesting, Gouffran was alright in the Championship, but was quite clear he wasn't a Prem player

 

When he first arrived he was handy, chipped in with a few goals. That's until he was converted into a 'defensive winger' by the King.

[Village Idiot]

Rafa loves his workhorses. Not surprising.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Acceptable player who can follow instructions, it's what Rafa needed to rely on.

[Mr Logic]

Atsu was effective enough on the break because of his pace and had some useful displays first season back, as rubbish as he is.

 

Gouffran was no use at the top level. Got to question Rafa a bit if he genuinely wanted to keep him around.

 

Be more inclined to question my own opinion.

[triggs]

Gouffran was absolutely terrible

[Guest Butcher]

Gouffran was absolutely terrible

 

Truly awful

[nufcjmc]

Gouffran was absolutely terrible

 

Truly awful

 

From what I recall I remember feeling his was a "plodder" did a job he was asked and you get what you pay for and signing cheap "usually" means you are buying limited players. I didnt dislike him as he did do a job but nor did I miss him leaving the club.

[joeyt]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CAFlfZ3JUIG/?igshid=96cwq1fnhvhw

[TRon]

Acceptable player who can follow instructions, it's what Rafa needed to rely on.

 

Also pretty much all he could afford. I'm sure he would prefer a higher calibre of player who could follow instructions.

[loki679]

He wasn't a winger though

[Infinitely Content]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CAFlfZ3JUIG/?igshid=96cwq1fnhvhw

 

Don.