Guest reefatoon Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Next month is no good like. Would be torture, finally being rid of Ashley, only to see us go down because we spent fuck all in January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Was it under maintenance all night? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Next month is no good like. Would be torture, finally being rid of Ashley, only to see us go down because we spent f*** all in January. I'd still prefer it over any future with him at the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Next month is no good like. Would be torture, finally being rid of Ashley, only to see us go down because we spent f*** all in January. Think some fans would take relegation but new owners rather than PL with Ashley. Zero clue about what Rafa would do if the former occurred but I doubt anyone can see him doing another season in that dogshit bantz cheap lager league. Either way, I think Rafa can do just enough with no additions or sales this window to keep us up. It'd be an awful, horrible slog mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 I like cheap lager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 If our potential new owners have no desire to spend money in this window (therefore delaying a deal until the window shuts) it doesn’t exactly smack of ambition for the mid to long term on their part. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlies Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Caulkin: They are as feverish as always; making and fielding calls, seeing what’s out there, working the angles, plotting how a rival club’s move for player X might free player Y. This is the grind of the transfer window and Newcastle United are grinding through it like everybody else, except in one significant regard. “David Blaine would struggle to make any magic from what we’ve got available,” says one person involved in the club’s recruitment process. This is becoming an old, old story at St James’ Park, one of stasis and uncertainty. A year ago, Rafa Benítez, then leading his side in the Sky Bet Championship, held meetings, identified targets and set up the deals which the manager believed would assure promotion. Nothing happened, no explanations. Last summer, he did the same, but procrastination cost Newcastle players and from that point it was catch-up. It is wearisome to relate the same anecdotes, but Benítez still mentions Newcastle’s reluctance to sign Willy Caballero on a free transfer from Manchester City. At the time, the club had four goalkeepers on their books - Karl Darlow, Rob Elliot, Freddie Woodman and Tim Krul - and Caballero’s move to Chelsea forced Benítez to block an offer for Darlow. Without a replacement, he could not sanction any departure. Benítez has lined up a number of targets in recent windows but they have fallen throughSCOTT HEPPELL/REUTERS From there, Newcastle’s work unravelled. Benítez was convinced he had secured Tammy Abraham on-loan from Chelsea; Swansea City offered a more attractive package and the centre forward was lost. By the middle of August, he was signing Joselu from Stoke City for £5 million, a willing striker capable of following orders and with an unquestionable attitude, but lacking a killer touch in front of goal. As the season began, Benítez predicted struggle and he was right, but this is not a hierarchy which heeds its own history. At his press briefing before Newcastle’s FA Cup fixture against Luton Town last Friday, Benítez said: “I don’t know exactly what our budget is, so I don’t have any news. We have to keep working and try to make sure we have our targets, because I don’t know.” The window had already been open for five days. It is said that when Benítez brings up targets with Lee Charnley, the managing director, the Spaniard is asked who he can trim from his first-team squad, the same impasse as the summer. Benítez does not wish to sell unless or until he knows he can bring in better. He has spoken to Mike Ashley, Newcastle’s reluctant owner, and warned that spending this month was the best way to protect his investment. As things stand, there is no evidence Benítez is being listened to. So he and his colleagues go through the motions, sounding out clubs, speaking to agents. Newcastle need to improve and they need to be ready. Daniel Sturridge? Yeah, they’ll ask the question, but Liverpool would prefer to sell, which rules out one avenue and the striker’s £150,000-a-week wages mitigates against a loan. “Impossible,” says the source, who has asked anyway. Newcastle 3 Luton Town 1 Similar applies to Joe Hart; on-loan at West Ham United from Manchester City and “offered” to Newcastle through an intermediary. “It’s pie in the sky stuff,” according to the man in the know, far too complex. Nobody does anybody else favours, which is why Benítez could not countenance Jonjo Shelvey leaving for West Ham, even if David Moyes hardened a vague interest in him. There would be peril in selling to a rival. Newcastle continue to look at temporary solutions. Just as they had five months ago, Newcastle have a framework in place to take Kenedy on loan from Chelsea but are again at the whim of Antonio Conte. Benítez has understandable concerns about the match fitness of Liverpool’s Danny Ings, but he is another option. Ings will go eventually, they think, but for now the player is fighting for his place. This is the flotsam and jetsam of the market, identical for everybody. What is different this time is the prospective takeover which looms over Newcastle. When, in the middle of last month, a jolt of progress was made, an agreement between Ashley and Amanda Staveley was in reach. Staveley had bid £300 million and there was an acceptance in both camps that money should be made available to Benítez. Agonisingly, an accord remains just beyond their fingertips. Premier League clips powered by Sky Sports Video highlights: Stoke City 0 Newcastle United 1 Staveley remains confident that Ashley will sell to her and hopefully by next month. The alternative - and the deflation which would follow hard behind - does not bear thinking about, but we have had a little taste over the past few weeks. It is said that Charnley’s instincts are to back Benítez in the market but he does not have the power to act unilaterally and Ashley, who shows little interest in Newcastle, has been on holiday. And so they drift on. So far, there has been little of the frustration which Benítez showed either a year ago or last summer. He is still asking the questions, still pushing for action, still pushing for more, but he is focusing on the team and what he can control. He has to. Perhaps the logjam will end and he will get some clarity - Ashley is never less than unpredictable - but if he assumes the worst, anything else is a bonus and relegation must still be avoided. “We’re determined not to get angry this time,” the source says but, in some ways, a sense of resignation is worse. In matters such as this, Ashley’s Newcastle have demonstrated repeatedly they are not the ambitious, progressive club which Benítez thought they could become and although the manager is still under contract, with a penalty clause which prevents him walking out, the realisation is dismaying. IN YOUR INBOX Daily football briefing Get the latest football news and analysis plus exclusive Premier League highlights in our daily football briefing Ahead of the Game Sign up now Newcastle need a fresh start, impetus, something new. It is a thought which occurred again in the wake of Peter Beardsley being placed on gardening leave. Nothing to do with allegations of racism and bullying, which the former England international denies categorically, but because of the longstanding feeling amongst substantive figures within the club that Newcastle’s academy was simply not making progress. Newcastle are standing still; Benítez knows it and Ashley knows it, too. In October, the sportswear retailer’s lawyer gave an interview to Sky Sports. The club was for sale, he said, because there was “a feeling that all that can be done has been done. So it is probably just a recognition that it might be time for a change.” And if a sale was not completed by January? “Business as usual,” he said. Business as usual is right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 I like cheap lager. I can't even blame that on the autocorrect, that was just awful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Caulkin: They are as feverish as always; making and fielding calls, seeing what’s out there, working the angles, plotting how a rival club’s move for player X might free player Y. This is the grind of the transfer window and Newcastle United are grinding through it like everybody else, except in one significant regard. “David Blaine would struggle to make any magic from what we’ve got available,” says one person involved in the club’s recruitment process. This is becoming an old, old story at St James’ Park, one of stasis and uncertainty. A year ago, Rafa Benítez, then leading his side in the Sky Bet Championship, held meetings, identified targets and set up the deals which the manager believed would assure promotion. Nothing happened, no explanations. Last summer, he did the same, but procrastination cost Newcastle players and from that point it was catch-up. It is wearisome to relate the same anecdotes, but Benítez still mentions Newcastle’s reluctance to sign Willy Caballero on a free transfer from Manchester City. At the time, the club had four goalkeepers on their books - Karl Darlow, Rob Elliot, Freddie Woodman and Tim Krul - and Caballero’s move to Chelsea forced Benítez to block an offer for Darlow. Without a replacement, he could not sanction any departure. Benítez has lined up a number of targets in recent windows but they have fallen throughSCOTT HEPPELL/REUTERS From there, Newcastle’s work unravelled. Benítez was convinced he had secured Tammy Abraham on-loan from Chelsea; Swansea City offered a more attractive package and the centre forward was lost. By the middle of August, he was signing Joselu from Stoke City for £5 million, a willing striker capable of following orders and with an unquestionable attitude, but lacking a killer touch in front of goal. As the season began, Benítez predicted struggle and he was right, but this is not a hierarchy which heeds its own history. At his press briefing before Newcastle’s FA Cup fixture against Luton Town last Friday, Benítez said: “I don’t know exactly what our budget is, so I don’t have any news. We have to keep working and try to make sure we have our targets, because I don’t know.” The window had already been open for five days. It is said that when Benítez brings up targets with Lee Charnley, the managing director, the Spaniard is asked who he can trim from his first-team squad, the same impasse as the summer. Benítez does not wish to sell unless or until he knows he can bring in better. He has spoken to Mike Ashley, Newcastle’s reluctant owner, and warned that spending this month was the best way to protect his investment. As things stand, there is no evidence Benítez is being listened to. So he and his colleagues go through the motions, sounding out clubs, speaking to agents. Newcastle need to improve and they need to be ready. Daniel Sturridge? Yeah, they’ll ask the question, but Liverpool would prefer to sell, which rules out one avenue and the striker’s £150,000-a-week wages mitigates against a loan. “Impossible,” says the source, who has asked anyway. Newcastle 3 Luton Town 1 Similar applies to Joe Hart; on-loan at West Ham United from Manchester City and “offered” to Newcastle through an intermediary. “It’s pie in the sky stuff,” according to the man in the know, far too complex. Nobody does anybody else favours, which is why Benítez could not countenance Jonjo Shelvey leaving for West Ham, even if David Moyes hardened a vague interest in him. There would be peril in selling to a rival. Newcastle continue to look at temporary solutions. Just as they had five months ago, Newcastle have a framework in place to take Kenedy on loan from Chelsea but are again at the whim of Antonio Conte. Benítez has understandable concerns about the match fitness of Liverpool’s Danny Ings, but he is another option. Ings will go eventually, they think, but for now the player is fighting for his place. This is the flotsam and jetsam of the market, identical for everybody. What is different this time is the prospective takeover which looms over Newcastle. When, in the middle of last month, a jolt of progress was made, an agreement between Ashley and Amanda Staveley was in reach. Staveley had bid £300 million and there was an acceptance in both camps that money should be made available to Benítez. Agonisingly, an accord remains just beyond their fingertips. Premier League clips powered by Sky Sports Video highlights: Stoke City 0 Newcastle United 1 Staveley remains confident that Ashley will sell to her and hopefully by next month. The alternative - and the deflation which would follow hard behind - does not bear thinking about, but we have had a little taste over the past few weeks. It is said that Charnley’s instincts are to back Benítez in the market but he does not have the power to act unilaterally and Ashley, who shows little interest in Newcastle, has been on holiday. And so they drift on. So far, there has been little of the frustration which Benítez showed either a year ago or last summer. He is still asking the questions, still pushing for action, still pushing for more, but he is focusing on the team and what he can control. He has to. Perhaps the logjam will end and he will get some clarity - Ashley is never less than unpredictable - but if he assumes the worst, anything else is a bonus and relegation must still be avoided. “We’re determined not to get angry this time,” the source says but, in some ways, a sense of resignation is worse. In matters such as this, Ashley’s Newcastle have demonstrated repeatedly they are not the ambitious, progressive club which Benítez thought they could become and although the manager is still under contract, with a penalty clause which prevents him walking out, the realisation is dismaying. IN YOUR INBOX Daily football briefing Get the latest football news and analysis plus exclusive Premier League highlights in our daily football briefing Ahead of the Game Sign up now Newcastle need a fresh start, impetus, something new. It is a thought which occurred again in the wake of Peter Beardsley being placed on gardening leave. Nothing to do with allegations of racism and bullying, which the former England international denies categorically, but because of the longstanding feeling amongst substantive figures within the club that Newcastle’s academy was simply not making progress. Newcastle are standing still; Benítez knows it and Ashley knows it, too. In October, the sportswear retailer’s lawyer gave an interview to Sky Sports. The club was for sale, he said, because there was “a feeling that all that can be done has been done. So it is probably just a recognition that it might be time for a change.” And if a sale was not completed by January? “Business as usual,” he said. Business as usual is right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 If our potential new owners have no desire to spend money in this window (therefore delaying a deal until the window shuts) it doesn’t exactly smack of ambition for the mid to long term on their part. Seems far more likely that Ashley knows they'd want to spend asap, and thus, if they want to do a deal asap, he's playing hard ball and trying to eke out as much money as possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willow Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Next month is no good like. Would be torture, finally being rid of Ashley, only to see us go down because we spent fuck all in January. This is exactly what will happen and we can all see it a mile off. So frustrating when we can't do anything about it. At this rate, we're going to get relegated and all the hard work done by Rafa/players in the Championship has been for nothing. That's not being dramatic, it's just very realistic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Yea but that means Ashley f***ing sure PCP really wants the club at all cost. That doesn't make sense to me or to anyone. PCP can just end the discussion and walk away FFS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Knowing the fat shit, he will hold his price and sign fuck all. PCP will give up until the summer. Rafa will dig deep and keep us up with what he's got, Ashley then offers a tiny summer budget and tells PCP the price is now £50m more, and they do one for good. Guess who wins again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 If our potential new owners have no desire to spend money in this window (therefore delaying a deal until the window shuts) it doesn’t exactly smack of ambition for the mid to long term on their part. Seems far more likely that Ashley knows they'd want to spend asap, and thus, if they want to do a deal asap, he's playing hard ball and trying to eke out as much money as possible. I prefer this scenario Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Yea but that means Ashley f***ing sure PCP really wants the club at all cost. That doesn't make sense to me or to anyone. PCP can just end the discussion and walk away FFS. I mean this would be the case in any negotiation. The buyer can walk away, doesn't mean sellers just drop their pants. Ashley was always going to make this slow and painful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Next month is no good like. Would be torture, finally being rid of Ashley, only to see us go down because we spent f*** all in January. This is exactly what will happen and we can all see it a mile off. So frustrating when we can't do anything about it. At this rate, we're going to get relegated and all the hard work done by Rafa/players in the Championship has been for nothing. That's not being dramatic, it's just very realistic. I wouldn't be so sure, at this current rate we would stay up given our points tally/form. Another couple of wins and we would all start feeling very confident of staying up. I don't think we're getting relegated this year personally, new signings or not. If we however start flogging key players like Shelvey, that's when I'd start to question our chances a bit more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Caulkin: They are as feverish as always; making and fielding calls, seeing what’s out there, working the angles, plotting how a rival club’s move for player X might free player Y. This is the grind of the transfer window and Newcastle United are grinding through it like everybody else, except in one significant regard. “David Blaine would struggle to make any magic from what we’ve got available,” says one person involved in the club’s recruitment process. This is becoming an old, old story at St James’ Park, one of stasis and uncertainty. A year ago, Rafa Benítez, then leading his side in the Sky Bet Championship, held meetings, identified targets and set up the deals which the manager believed would assure promotion. Nothing happened, no explanations. Last summer, he did the same, but procrastination cost Newcastle players and from that point it was catch-up. It is wearisome to relate the same anecdotes, but Benítez still mentions Newcastle’s reluctance to sign Willy Caballero on a free transfer from Manchester City. At the time, the club had four goalkeepers on their books - Karl Darlow, Rob Elliot, Freddie Woodman and Tim Krul - and Caballero’s move to Chelsea forced Benítez to block an offer for Darlow. Without a replacement, he could not sanction any departure. Benítez has lined up a number of targets in recent windows but they have fallen throughSCOTT HEPPELL/REUTERS From there, Newcastle’s work unravelled. Benítez was convinced he had secured Tammy Abraham on-loan from Chelsea; Swansea City offered a more attractive package and the centre forward was lost. By the middle of August, he was signing Joselu from Stoke City for £5 million, a willing striker capable of following orders and with an unquestionable attitude, but lacking a killer touch in front of goal. As the season began, Benítez predicted struggle and he was right, but this is not a hierarchy which heeds its own history. At his press briefing before Newcastle’s FA Cup fixture against Luton Town last Friday, Benítez said: “I don’t know exactly what our budget is, so I don’t have any news. We have to keep working and try to make sure we have our targets, because I don’t know.” The window had already been open for five days. It is said that when Benítez brings up targets with Lee Charnley, the managing director, the Spaniard is asked who he can trim from his first-team squad, the same impasse as the summer. Benítez does not wish to sell unless or until he knows he can bring in better. He has spoken to Mike Ashley, Newcastle’s reluctant owner, and warned that spending this month was the best way to protect his investment. As things stand, there is no evidence Benítez is being listened to. So he and his colleagues go through the motions, sounding out clubs, speaking to agents. Newcastle need to improve and they need to be ready. Daniel Sturridge? Yeah, they’ll ask the question, but Liverpool would prefer to sell, which rules out one avenue and the striker’s £150,000-a-week wages mitigates against a loan. “Impossible,” says the source, who has asked anyway. Newcastle 3 Luton Town 1 Similar applies to Joe Hart; on-loan at West Ham United from Manchester City and “offered” to Newcastle through an intermediary. “It’s pie in the sky stuff,” according to the man in the know, far too complex. Nobody does anybody else favours, which is why Benítez could not countenance Jonjo Shelvey leaving for West Ham, even if David Moyes hardened a vague interest in him. There would be peril in selling to a rival. Newcastle continue to look at temporary solutions. Just as they had five months ago, Newcastle have a framework in place to take Kenedy on loan from Chelsea but are again at the whim of Antonio Conte. Benítez has understandable concerns about the match fitness of Liverpool’s Danny Ings, but he is another option. Ings will go eventually, they think, but for now the player is fighting for his place. This is the flotsam and jetsam of the market, identical for everybody. What is different this time is the prospective takeover which looms over Newcastle. When, in the middle of last month, a jolt of progress was made, an agreement between Ashley and Amanda Staveley was in reach. Staveley had bid £300 million and there was an acceptance in both camps that money should be made available to Benítez. Agonisingly, an accord remains just beyond their fingertips. Premier League clips powered by Sky Sports Video highlights: Stoke City 0 Newcastle United 1 Staveley remains confident that Ashley will sell to her and hopefully by next month. The alternative - and the deflation which would follow hard behind - does not bear thinking about, but we have had a little taste over the past few weeks. It is said that Charnley’s instincts are to back Benítez in the market but he does not have the power to act unilaterally and Ashley, who shows little interest in Newcastle, has been on holiday. And so they drift on. So far, there has been little of the frustration which Benítez showed either a year ago or last summer. He is still asking the questions, still pushing for action, still pushing for more, but he is focusing on the team and what he can control. He has to. Perhaps the logjam will end and he will get some clarity - Ashley is never less than unpredictable - but if he assumes the worst, anything else is a bonus and relegation must still be avoided. “We’re determined not to get angry this time,” the source says but, in some ways, a sense of resignation is worse. In matters such as this, Ashley’s Newcastle have demonstrated repeatedly they are not the ambitious, progressive club which Benítez thought they could become and although the manager is still under contract, with a penalty clause which prevents him walking out, the realisation is dismaying. IN YOUR INBOX Daily football briefing Get the latest football news and analysis plus exclusive Premier League highlights in our daily football briefing Ahead of the Game Sign up now Newcastle need a fresh start, impetus, something new. It is a thought which occurred again in the wake of Peter Beardsley being placed on gardening leave. Nothing to do with allegations of racism and bullying, which the former England international denies categorically, but because of the longstanding feeling amongst substantive figures within the club that Newcastle’s academy was simply not making progress. Newcastle are standing still; Benítez knows it and Ashley knows it, too. In October, the sportswear retailer’s lawyer gave an interview to Sky Sports. The club was for sale, he said, because there was “a feeling that all that can be done has been done. So it is probably just a recognition that it might be time for a change.” And if a sale was not completed by January? “Business as usual,” he said. Business as usual is right. Perfect gif. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 “We’re determined not to get angry this time,” the source says Caulkin’s source at NUFC is clearly a member of the coaching staff. ‘We’ rather than talking about just Rafa. Wouldn’t be said if it was just a normal member of staff at the club imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlies Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 https://mobile.twitter.com/CaulkinTheTimes/status/951136912353488896 https://mobile.twitter.com/CaulkinTheTimes/status/951137075348361217 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Why did we have to get lumbered with the biggest wanker on the planet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Run like a Buisness ffs, stuff that dreams are made of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 I think the model they are referring to is more Tottenham than anything else, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Aye, hopefully a good business though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Run like a Buisness ffs, stuff that dreams are made of. Preferable to being a vapid plaything for the ultra wealthy if it means retaining and celebrating our identity, for me. I'd take anything though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 It’ll be ran on a shoestring with minimal investment to keep it afloat, regardless if sold or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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