HawK Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Is cunt aint dead yet? Well that's a new one on me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 This absolute cunt reeks of fat bullied kid in the playground that then becomes the bully. I dont usually wish Ill on anyone but I'd quite willing pay good money to watch this Bastard being inserted into a tree mulcher Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 This absolute cunt reeks of fat bullied kid in the playground that then becomes the bully. I dont usually wish Ill on anyone but I'd quite willing pay good money to watch this Bastard being inserted into a tree mulcher Download "Tor", search for "Darkwebz", off you go Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 You’re dead right about John Hall also as soon as he got a chance to make a big profit he was away like a shot not giving a fuck who he was selling the club too. i find this a strange criticism myself unless there's more detail i'm unaware of, at the time he bought the club ashley was a very successful but reclusive billionaire with the money to buy and run a football club don't know how anyone could predict how things have gone personally Wasn't it also the case that Hall felt he'd took the club as far as he could, and that it would take someone a lot richer to take it to the next level? I don't think Shepherd's mis-management helped, it got to the stage we were getting in a bad way IIRC, by the end I think they just wanted to cut and run and let someone else deal with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 You’re dead right about John Hall also as soon as he got a chance to make a big profit he was away like a shot not giving a fuck who he was selling the club too. i find this a strange criticism myself unless there's more detail i'm unaware of, at the time he bought the club ashley was a very successful but reclusive billionaire with the money to buy and run a football club don't know how anyone could predict how things have gone personally Wasn't it also the case that Hall felt he'd took the club as far as he could, and that it would take someone a lot richer to take it to the next level? I don't think Shepherd's mis-management helped, it got to the stage we were getting in a bad way IIRC, by the end I think they just wanted to cut and run and let someone else deal with it. possibly yeah, i'm just intrigued by the idea that hall should have identified ashley as a complete cunt at that point in time when no one even knew who he was... i mean if one of the richest men in the country came in to buy your club and one of his stated aims was to use it to help market his business it's a reasonable assumption he would do more or less the absolute opposite of what ashley has done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRL Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Knocking around on the corner of Park St and Upper Grosvenor St in London about 30 mins ago, shit eating grin on his face with barely a care in the world. Definitely not on holiday for once. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Knocking around on the corner of Park St and Upper Grosvenor St in London about 30 mins ago, shit eating grin on his face with barely a care in the world. Definitely not on holiday for once. Did you not attack? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 I've said it plenty of times but it does surprise me that none of our more radge fans have accosted him like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Surely he has his annual SkySportsNews Exclusive interview coming up soon to explain why we can't compete this summer....again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 You’re dead right about John Hall also as soon as he got a chance to make a big profit he was away like a shot not giving a fuck who he was selling the club too. i find this a strange criticism myself unless there's more detail i'm unaware of, at the time he bought the club ashley was a very successful but reclusive billionaire with the money to buy and run a football club don't know how anyone could predict how things have gone personally Wasn't it also the case that Hall felt he'd took the club as far as he could, and that it would take someone a lot richer to take it to the next level? I don't think Shepherd's mis-management helped, it got to the stage we were getting in a bad way IIRC, by the end I think they just wanted to cut and run and let someone else deal with it. possibly yeah, i'm just intrigued by the idea that hall should have identified ashley as a complete cunt at that point in time when no one even knew who he was... i mean if one of the richest men in the country came in to buy your club and one of his stated aims was to use it to help market his business it's a reasonable assumption he would do more or less the absolute opposite of what ashley has done Hall didn't give a flying fuck about the good of the club. He was entrusted with it for buttons then refused to put a penny of his own money into it (so much so that his wife did to keep Keegan) and allowed it to be used as a cash cow, paying his family millions in dividends, even when we were in the red. I don't believe that he would've considered the good of the club for a second, just the good of his wallet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Knocking around on the corner of Park St and Upper Grosvenor St in London about 30 mins ago, shit eating grin on his face with barely a care in the world. Definitely not on holiday for once. Pretty sure Mandy lives right around there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 You’re dead right about John Hall also as soon as he got a chance to make a big profit he was away like a shot not giving a fuck who he was selling the club too. i find this a strange criticism myself unless there's more detail i'm unaware of, at the time he bought the club ashley was a very successful but reclusive billionaire with the money to buy and run a football club don't know how anyone could predict how things have gone personally Wasn't it also the case that Hall felt he'd took the club as far as he could, and that it would take someone a lot richer to take it to the next level? I don't think Shepherd's mis-management helped, it got to the stage we were getting in a bad way IIRC, by the end I think they just wanted to cut and run and let someone else deal with it. possibly yeah, i'm just intrigued by the idea that hall should have identified ashley as a complete cunt at that point in time when no one even knew who he was... i mean if one of the richest men in the country came in to buy your club and one of his stated aims was to use it to help market his business it's a reasonable assumption he would do more or less the absolute opposite of what ashley has done Hall didn't give a flying fuck about the good of the club. He was entrusted with it for buttons then refused to put a penny of his own money into it (so much so that his wife did to keep Keegan) and allowed it to be used as a cash cow, paying his family millions in dividends, even when we were in the red. I don't believe that he would've considered the good of the club for a second, just the good of his wallet. No doubt he did put his wallet first above the club, but even if it was for his own benefit above all else, at least he thought the best way of doing that was to grow the Newcastle brand by making it a big player in Britain and Europe. You could compare it with the USA owners of Liverpool or Man U if you like. I doubt they give a fuck about the local wellbeing, it's a business first and foremost, but they see the clubs as high value brands not second rate like Ashley clearly does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 You’re dead right about John Hall also as soon as he got a chance to make a big profit he was away like a shot not giving a fuck who he was selling the club too. i find this a strange criticism myself unless there's more detail i'm unaware of, at the time he bought the club ashley was a very successful but reclusive billionaire with the money to buy and run a football club don't know how anyone could predict how things have gone personally Wasn't it also the case that Hall felt he'd took the club as far as he could, and that it would take someone a lot richer to take it to the next level? I don't think Shepherd's mis-management helped, it got to the stage we were getting in a bad way IIRC, by the end I think they just wanted to cut and run and let someone else deal with it. possibly yeah, i'm just intrigued by the idea that hall should have identified ashley as a complete cunt at that point in time when no one even knew who he was... i mean if one of the richest men in the country came in to buy your club and one of his stated aims was to use it to help market his business it's a reasonable assumption he would do more or less the absolute opposite of what ashley has done Hall didn't give a flying fuck about the good of the club. He was entrusted with it for buttons then refused to put a penny of his own money into it (so much so that his wife did to keep Keegan) and allowed it to be used as a cash cow, paying his family millions in dividends, even when we were in the red. I don't believe that he would've considered the good of the club for a second, just the good of his wallet. not really the point i'm making though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 You can’t blame SJH for Mike Ashley man I also find any derogatory criticism of him quite sad as well because if he hadn’t of taken us over when he did, we probably wouldn’t exist today. The man is among only a handful of people who have had a controlling stake in the club in its entire history who had nothing but the very best in mind for the club. He made a small fortune from the club, but I don’t begrudge him that. It’s like begrudging Shearer his millions in wages for his decade service. He wasn’t to know how Ashley would run the club after he sold it to him, h eprobably, like all of us at the time thought a successful billionaire... aye he will do. If you want to criticise people who have give fuck all to the club but taken out millions, look to his parasite son, former managers and former players. I used to be very critical of FS and rightly so, he was crooked and also lacked the skills and clout to take us any higher than we got, but he had ambition and understood the only way to run this club is to put a good team out on the pitch or at least try to. We only have that now thanks to Rafa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 There’s no way of knowing what state the club was in.. we're going by ASHLEY’S WORD that there was this massive debt. Let that sink in because that’s been a major part of the narrative that the club would be fucked without his investment. We believe him on that and nothing else? Personally I think it was a load of bollocks. Do you think Chris Mort or Freshfields who brokered the deal, would be that incompetent to not check over the accounts and sponsorship contracts to see what was coming in or out.. But.. Shepherd would never have sacked Allardyce so soon. So hypothetically, the club would have been in a fucking mess either way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 You can’t blame SJH for Mike Ashley man I also find any derogatory criticism of him quite sad as well because if he hadn’t of taken us over when he did, we probably wouldn’t exist today. The man is among only a handful of people who have had a controlling stake in the club in its entire history who had nothing but the very best in mind for the club. He made a small fortune from the club, but I don’t begrudge him that. It’s like begrudging Shearer his millions in wages for his decade service. He wasn’t to know how Ashley would run the club after he sold it to him, h eprobably, like all of us at the time thought a successful billionaire... aye he will do. If you want to criticise people who have give fuck all to the club but taken out millions, look to his parasite son, former managers and former players. I used to be very critical of FS and rightly so, he was crooked and also lacked the skills and clout to take us any higher than we got, but he had ambition and understood the only way to run this club is to put a good team out on the pitch or at least try to. We only have that now thanks to Rafa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 There’s no way of knowing what state the club was in.. we're going by ASHLEY’S WORD that there was this massive debt. Let that sink in because that’s been a major part of the narrative that the club would be fucked without his investment. We believe him on that and nothing else? Personally I think it was a load of bollocks. Do you think Chris Mort or Freshfields who brokered the deal, would be that incompetent to not check over the accounts and sponsorship contracts to see what was coming in or out.. But.. Shepherd would never have sacked Allardyce so soon. So hypothetically, the club would have been in a fucking mess either way. All I know is before Ashley we had just broken our transfer record, were above all but the top 4/5 then in terms of turnover and had often qualified for Europe. Now we can’t even compete with Championship clubs for fees. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Knocking around on the corner of Park St and Upper Grosvenor St in London about 30 mins ago, shit eating grin on his face with barely a care in the world. Definitely not on holiday for once. Should have taken one for the team. We would have visited you on a rota and supplied your snout for trading. Even kept Mr Big away from you in the showers....unless instructed otherwise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Would love to run him over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 I'd one hundred per cent feel compelled to say something if I saw him tbh. Absolutely. Dooesn't he have bodyguards tho?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 I'd one hundred per cent feel compelled to say something if I saw him tbh. Absolutely. Dooesn't he have bodyguards tho?? I'm not sure, I've never seen him irl, does he have them at the match? Im sure he has at least one with him at all times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 I'd one hundred per cent feel compelled to say something if I saw him tbh. Same here. I quite happily tip a pint over his head if I saw him in a pub, at the very least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 You’re dead right about John Hall also as soon as he got a chance to make a big profit he was away like a shot not giving a fuck who he was selling the club too. i find this a strange criticism myself unless there's more detail i'm unaware of, at the time he bought the club ashley was a very successful but reclusive billionaire with the money to buy and run a football club don't know how anyone could predict how things have gone personally Wasn't it also the case that Hall felt he'd took the club as far as he could, and that it would take someone a lot richer to take it to the next level? I don't think Shepherd's mis-management helped, it got to the stage we were getting in a bad way IIRC, by the end I think they just wanted to cut and run and let someone else deal with it. possibly yeah, i'm just intrigued by the idea that hall should have identified ashley as a complete cunt at that point in time when no one even knew who he was... i mean if one of the richest men in the country came in to buy your club and one of his stated aims was to use it to help market his business it's a reasonable assumption he would do more or less the absolute opposite of what ashley has done Hall didn't give a flying fuck about the good of the club. He was entrusted with it for buttons then refused to put a penny of his own money into it (so much so that his wife did to keep Keegan) and allowed it to be used as a cash cow, paying his family millions in dividends, even when we were in the red. I don't believe that he would've considered the good of the club for a second, just the good of his wallet. Wrong on so many levels. SJH never wanted to own NUFC, but wanted to help save it from the likes of McKeag and did offer it back to fans. He put his own money in buying shares, millions. Anyway it wasn’t his money the club needed, it was his vision, his ambition, his business acumen. He never hid from the fact that he was a businessman and saw NUFC as something he could profit from, hence why he floated the club. But he only took out what the club was worth after he had transformed it because it wasnt even worth the money he paid towards the shares back then. And he cared about the club. It wasn’t a cash cow to him, it was a cash cow to his son and the Shepherds and his mistake was handing his son such a big stake. He sold to MA because he was in no position to run the club, he was basically a silent partner and why shouldn’t he sell his shares? The alternative was to become another McKeag and keep it in the family for generations. FS couldn't afford to buy him out. I’d have sold if I wasn’t in any way able to run the club. SJH never took a penny out, the money he made from the club came from MA’s bank account not the club’s. His son and the Shepherds on the other hand... SJH along with KK were the only fuckers who believed in NUFC and did their damn best to turn us into the biggest club in the world. When we were going for the title with Man Utd they only turned over more than us because of the CL and extra seats, we were turning over more than any other club and not even the likes of Barcelona or Real Madrid could beat us in the transfer market or for wages. Floating was the wrong choice in retrospect, but it was a logical next step for a top PL brand at that time. I won’t hold Ashley against SJH, again we all thought we had landed on our feet when this billionaire sports retailer rocked up. I guarantee SJH has lots of regret towards the end of his time as chairman/owner/shareholder of NUFC. I don’t know how anyone can slag the man or hold him as some kind of cunt. Remove SJH from our history and we wouldn’t have had the 20 years prior to Ashley or even exist because there was no fucker else who had the money and balls to take on mother McKeags and certainly not the savvy vision SJH had for the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickthemagpie Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Would love to run him over. Given the opportunity could easily be made to look accidental. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts