Martin Dúbravka

[AJ9]

He was looking poor prior to the goals for me and then goals 2 and 3 looked bad. I think he will be fine and is obviously not the reason we lost, but he’s a lot further off Pope’s level than I remembered.

[SteV]

Tbh if you’re Dubravka in this situation and you’re not trusted to play the next 20/25 games, there’s no point in you being here.

 

It’s not like he’s accepted he’s in a position like Karius or Gillespie where he’ll only ever play a small handful of games at most, should particular circumstances arise.

 

And from our point of view, there’s no point in paying a reserve keeper ~40k a week if we don’t trust him to play that number of games.

[Kanj]

I’d 100% sign De Gea on loan or our long term successor to Pope this Jan but I’m pretty cutthroat about that. 

[Beth]

Don't think he can be blamed for the first two but obviously at fault for the last one and generally flapped about a lot. Ironic that his one strength with the ball at his feet is Pope's only weakness. Got to give him till January at least.

 

 

Edited December 8, 2023 by Beth

[Guest]

rewatch the first goal. If stands up he can side step left and take it at head height. Instead he tries to dive, his left leg plants backwards instead of a positive step towards the direction of the dive. He dives short and under the ball. 

[Conjo]

There's a great team in London to support for those who just want to buy their way out of short term trouble. No guarantee for success though.

 

Can't get over the amount of people who legitimately wants us to bring in De Gea short term when we have a PL proven GK in Dubs, with the added risk of disrupting not only the keepers we already have on our books, but the entire squad if some has been strolls in on double the wages the next player has.

 

Same people who were desperate to get Lingaard in by any chance?

[El Prontonise]

De Gea was quite error prone as well especially on shot stopping.

[Ronaldo]

17 minutes ago, Conjo said:

There's a great team in London to support for those who just want to buy their way out of short term trouble. No guarantee for success though.

 

Can't get over the amount of people who legitimately wants us to bring in De Gea short term when we have a PL proven GK in Dubs, with the added risk of disrupting not only the keepers we already have on our books, but the entire squad if some has been strolls in on double the wages the next player has.

 

Same people who were desperate to get Lingaard in by any chance?

You ‘can’t get over’ people wanting a good keeper in net instead of a mediocre one? I don’t think Dubravka is a bad goalkeeper - though realistically he’s probably worse than when we were relegation candidates - but unless we’re reducing our ambitions for this season you can surely acknowledge why we’d would see a significant deficit caused by Pope’s injury and look for a remedy.

[wormy]

While I think Pope would've done better with the goals, that's why he's our No 1 and Dubs is back up.

 

What I was more worried about was how much of an impact he had on our overall play. I get he can play it out from the back a bit better than Pope but I was shocked just how much we attempted it, especially when our players were getting utterly swarmed and looking terrified.

 

His being rooted to his line impacted us a lot imo, too. Felt like every time the ball got punted in to our box it would just be bouncing around for ages, defenders looking petrified of it and I couldn't shake the feeling that Pope would've taken command of those situations with how he comes out to claim balls. 

 

I just hope a bit more understanding comes between the players. Still don't particularly want us going out and getting someone like De Gea, not that I think he'd come unless it was for stupid money anyway.

[Kanj]

38 minutes ago, OCK said:

rewatch the first goal. If stands up he can side step left and take it at head height. Instead he tries to dive, his left leg plants backwards instead of a positive step towards the direction of the dive. He dives short and under the ball. 

Great analysis, I thought he dove short too. 

[Conjo]

25 minutes ago, Ronaldo said:

You ‘can’t get over’ people wanting a good keeper in net instead of a mediocre one? I don’t think Dubravka is a bad goalkeeper - though realistically he’s probably worse than when we were relegation candidates - but unless we’re reducing our ambitions for this season you can surely acknowledge why we’d would see a significant deficit caused by Pope’s injury and look for a remedy.

 

I don't think we need to reduce our ambitions if we play Dubs and Karius until Pope is back.

I don't think De Gea is close to what he used to be, and on top of that he hasn't played a competitive game since April.

 

If it was a younger prospect we'd be looking to take over for Pope in the future I'd be more in favor of getting someone in despite not seeing it as a necessity.

 

 

Edited December 8, 2023 by Conjo

[huss9]

think pope saves all 3.

[TheBrownBottle]

6 hours ago, El Prontonise said:

De Gea was quite error prone as well especially on shot stopping.

Dubravka isn’t close to De Gea’s class

[cubaricho]

2 hours ago, huss9 said:

think pope saves all 3.

Not one keeper on the planet saves the second. 

[McDog]

Pope might have saved the third, not sure on the first.  We scored nothing so it wasn't a factor.

[Pilko]

Fucking crap. He's absolutely finished.

[nemtizz]

Dogshit. 

[ponsaelius]

Can't have a full season with him I'm afraid.

[Danh1]

Give Karius ago and sign someone in Jan.

[Doctor Zaius]

We can't go the next five months with him in goal because he was decent a few years ago. 

[Ritchie]

Missing Pope already and it’s only been two games.

[Krabbe2]

This season is lost anyway. Doesn't matter if we're 10 or 13.

[teohgk]

I said in Everton game, and i’ll say it again, i think Karius is better. Dub is pure dogshit nowadays 

[iwantcurlyhairtoo]

I thought Howe was gonna stick with him when Pope got injured. Last two games have proven we need someone better

 

[nemtizz]

Season too early and it won’t be easy but an upgrade on Pope is needed given the state of our backup. 

 

 

Edited December 10, 2023 by nemtizz