huss9 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 aye, really shocked at Dean's performance yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 If VAR is there for clear and obvious errors this is the main issue with it at the moment isn't it, implementation i mean that man city goal that was disallowed, for example, was not a clear and obvious error but they decided to act on it That’s because of the handball part of the law, So in essence it was a clear error as the referee didn’t see it clear and obvious is the wording, the touch with his arm was barely perceptible with VAR never mind for the ref it was bullshit I’m not saying it was right but I guess with the new law you could say it obviously hit his arm, on a replay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 If VAR is there for clear and obvious errors this is the main issue with it at the moment isn't it, implementation i mean that man city goal that was disallowed, for example, was not a clear and obvious error but they decided to act on it That’s because of the handball part of the law, So in essence it was a clear error as the referee didn’t see it clear and obvious is the wording, the touch with his arm was barely perceptible with VAR never mind for the ref it was bullshit I’m not saying it was right but I guess with the new law you could say it obviously hit his arm, on a replay but the "obvious" part is to correct an obvious mistake, which that was not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 VAR ask the referee what he's seen. If the ref says he didn't really see if it was handball then they'll overrule. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 That was one of the clearest pens I've seen. It's crazy that VAR didn't give it. Kane's natural motion is to lean in, because as a striker you lean in to push the defender away and create space for a shot. If you see every striker in the penalty area, they lean in to their defender before pulling back for a shot. They also push back if the defender is behind them, yours saying if the defender steps aside and the forward has nothing to push back against and falls over then it's a foul ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted August 26, 2019 Share Posted August 26, 2019 VAR ask the referee what he's seen. If the ref says he didn't really see if it was handball then they'll overrule. So if the referee says he saw the handball and didn’t give a pen they would allow it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BergenMagpie Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Insane that Villa was robbed from their equaliser and that Haller didnt get a penalty today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Apparently Tielemans was a blatant red as well, another resoundingly successful day for this nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Apparently Tielemens was a blatant red as well, another resounding success for this nonsense. It's insane. They are basically only looking for handballs that lead to goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Apparently Tielemens was a blatant red as well, another resounding success for this nonsense. It's insane. They are basically only looking for handballs that lead to goals. Don't forget offside shoelaces. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapo Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 And yet they missed Hayden’s handball in our equalizer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizza Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 VAR did nothing about Rashford kicking the ball out then whingeing til he got a corner earlier on either, what's the point if its not correcting stuff like that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 WHY ISN'T VAR LOWERING THE PRICE OF MY CAR INSURANCE? TOTAL WASTE OF TIME IF IT CAN'T SORT THAT OUT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 And yet they missed Hayden’s handball in our equalizer. Didn't touch his hand/arm, hit the defenders hand. Hayden's left arm was under the defenders arm in his armpit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. Yimentov Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 No consistency. It's potluck as to whether they'll bust out the VAR screens. Looking back at the women's world cup, it's almost as if they were playing a different sport. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just seen the Tielemans foul, it's the most blatant red you'll see all season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Just seen the Tielemans foul, it's the most blatant red you'll see all season. Just seen it. That's a leg / ankle breaker. What the fuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 The offsides thing is bullshit too. Linesmen still flag and ref blows, so it can only benefit defenders, attackers still liable to be punished like Atsu was in the first half. Fuck it all off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 He blew straight away for offside in the first half then not long after he let Almiron go on and score before blowing. Just seem to be making it up as they go along Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 I didn't think it was possible but this might be the worst implementation of VAR yet, the "high bar" for intervention (except for someones armpit hair being offside) makes it both pointless and makes the var ref look even stupider for not intervening in blatantly obvious incidents what the fuck is it for if the reffing situation is somehow worse than last season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 And yet they missed Hayden’s handball in our equalizer. Didn't touch his hand/arm, hit the defenders hand. Hayden's left arm was under the defenders arm in his armpit. Take this back. Clearly hit his hand. VAR is a total joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 The clear and obvious thing is a joke. Refs seem to think it's not a clear and obvious error unless the attacker is murdered. Get rid of that and just ask the VAR ref if they think it's a penalty or not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 And yet they missed Hayden’s handball in our equalizer. Didn't touch his hand/arm, hit the defenders hand. Hayden's left arm was under the defenders arm in his armpit. Take this back. Clearly hit his hand. VAR is a total joke. Its absolutely bullshit that defenders get so much leeway on handballs but not vice versa though. As I said earlier, rules completely written in defenders favour now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 That Grealish decision was a f***ing disgrace though technically i guess VAR couldn't give the goal as the ref blew before it went in the net. Penalised for setting a goal up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 That Grealish decision was a f***ing disgrace though technically i guess VAR couldn't give the goal as the ref blew before it went in the net. Penalised for setting a goal up. MoTD seemed to be intimating he didn't blow? Clearly could hear a whistle though..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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