Dokko Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Feels like the next couple of weeks could be a real Sliding Doors moment in North East football. A real prospect we won't be considered rivals for a long long time. I think the Sliding Doors moment was actually them staying up in 2016, their trajectory has been nothing but downward since that moment. I've said this a few times, but us going down and them staying up was the Ace Rimmer moment. One went through the shame of resitting the year the other is SunderRimmer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Silent Face Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Feels like the next couple of weeks could be a real Sliding Doors moment in North East football. A real prospect we won't be considered rivals for a long long time. I think the Sliding Doors moment was actually them staying up in 2016, their trajectory has been nothing but downward since that moment. But but we sent the mags down marra I remember arguing with some mackems long into that fateful Monday night how within 3 years we would be back in Europe and have a full stadium whilst they would be in the championship with 20k empty seats. I wasn't far wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 By staying up for as long as they did they were just delaying the inevitable. It was almost better for them to go down sooner so they could get their shit together and regroup. By the time they went down they were so used to being shit and had such a losing mentality throughout the club that they were not prepared for the slog that was to come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Feels like the next couple of weeks could be a real Sliding Doors moment in North East football. A real prospect we won't be considered rivals for a long long time. I think the Sliding Doors moment was actually them staying up in 2016, their trajectory has been nothing but downward since that moment. I've said this a few times, but us going down and them staying up was the Ace Rimmer moment. One went through the shame of resitting the year the other is SunderRimmer. Love that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhoywhonder Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 I've said this a few times, but us going down and them staying up was the Ace Rimmer moment. One went through the shame of resitting the year the other is SunderRimmer. This fulfils both my love of British sitcoms and analogies! Well played! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bonk Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 By staying up for as long as they did they were just delaying the inevitable. It was almost better for them to go down sooner so they could get their s*** together and regroup. By the time they went down they were so used to being s*** and had such a losing mentality throughout the club that they were not prepared for the slog that was to come. There was no fight in them in either relegation from the PL and Champo. The culture had been sucked out of the club. Previous iterations of them had the will to win (pride). They were plucky under Quinn, Keane, O’Neil at the very least. It’s been quite the downfall and a model for operational failure these last few years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted May 9, 2020 Share Posted May 9, 2020 Already mention of 2020ers over on RTG. Called it. They probably think that the North Sea and a mysterious cabal of mag businessmen scuppered their deal with those Dell blokes and sent the Saudis our way because they were still seething about the Rafagation and the 6 in a row. FTM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 There’s 4 levels of Mackems in my experience Not born or lived in the city (+ East Durham) - absolutely fine for the most Born in Sunderland (+ East Durham), moved elsewhere - generally fine for the most Born in Sunderland (+ East Durham) and aren’t too invested in the football - absolutely fine for the main Born and residual fans in Sunderland (+ East Durham) - the most bitter people alive Thankfully RTG is almost universally the latter and is currently riddled with posts absewlewtly fewmin those they don’t deem worthy haven’t suffered yet en mass in the pandemic, but aye top lads aside from that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 It’s better hearing it than reading it :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 It’s better hearing it than reading it :lol: This is a good read... http://wisemensay.co.uk/the-truth-will-out/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Already mention of 2020ers over on RTG. Called it. They probably think that the North Sea and a mysterious cabal of mag businessmen scuppered their deal with those Dell blokes and sent the Saudis our way because they were still seething about the Rafagation and the 6 in a row. FTM. The 2020ers was always going to happen. Not sure how that argument is going to stand up when looking back at our attendances pre 2020. It'll read 52,000 pre 2020 and 52,000 post 2020. But then facts aren't the mackems strong point are they. The 1992ers shite they come out with proves that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Terrified that the 2020’s will include their own flesh and blood. “Can a have a nyewcasel top with Kane on it for me birthda dar?” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Terrified that the 2020’s will include their own flesh and blood. “Can a have a nyewcasel top with Kane on it for me birthda dar?” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Has anyone worked out the points per game league table ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam1 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Has anyone worked out the points per game league table ? Think they finish 8th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Is that using both calculations ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Either way they're not getting automatic promotion or winning any play-off competition. They're fucked. One thing I don't understand is that I thought 'The Don' buying them using the parachute payments was a known thing at the time? Or was that conveniently forgotten about when he started running his mouth on Twitter and they all jumped on the bandwagon? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 See the League One table if it came to being based on PPG (points per game) should the season get cancelled… ↔ Coventry City – 1.970 ↔ Rotherham United – 1.771 ↑ Wycombe Wanderers – 1.735 ↓ Oxford United – 1.714 ↓ Portsmouth – 1.714 ↓ Fleetwood Town – 1.714 ↓ Peterborough United – 1.685 ↓ Sunderland – 1.638 ↔ Doncaster Rovers – 1.588 ↑ Gillingham – 1.457 ↓ Ipswich Town – 1.444 ↔ Burton Albion – 1.37 ↔ Blackpool – 1.285 ↔ Bristol Rovers – 1.285 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Apparently (forum gossip) Dell are close to buying out well, Del Boy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Either way they're not getting automatic promotion or winning any play-off competition. They're fucked. One thing I don't understand is that I thought 'The Don' buying them using the parachute payments was a known thing at the time? Or was that conveniently forgotten about when he started running his mouth on Twitter and they all jumped on the bandwagon? It was known but he and his pal made out that they were definitely going to pay it back. Now it seems that may not be the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 See the League One table if it came to being based on PPG (points per game) should the season get cancelled… ↔ Coventry City – 1.970 ↔ Rotherham United – 1.771 ↑ Wycombe Wanderers – 1.735 ↓ Oxford United – 1.714 ↓ Portsmouth – 1.714 ↓ Fleetwood Town – 1.714 ↓ Peterborough United – 1.685 ↓ Sunderland – 1.638 ↔ Doncaster Rovers – 1.588 ↑ Gillingham – 1.457 ↓ Ipswich Town – 1.444 ↔ Burton Albion – 1.37 ↔ Blackpool – 1.285 ↔ Bristol Rovers – 1.285 Looks like it is certain that they will be spending (yet) another season in the THIRD DIVISION !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickthemagpie Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 This is a good read... http://wisemensay.co.uk/the-truth-will-out/ Anyone harbouring any doubts as to the knife edge these fuckers are on should read this and all your fears will be allayed. it's like a good book that you don't want to end, but the as yet unwritten final chapter could be glorious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 Either way they're not getting automatic promotion or winning any play-off competition. They're fucked. One thing I don't understand is that I thought 'The Don' buying them using the parachute payments was a known thing at the time? Or was that conveniently forgotten about when he started running his mouth on Twitter and they all jumped on the bandwagon? It was known but he and his pal made out that they were definitely going to pay it back. Now it seems that may not be the case. Damn, I wish we were being bought by a good proper British consortium who definitely didn't want to use the club to fuel their own greed. Such a shame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlies Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 this whole thing about the owners and investment, debt, etc is mostly driven by mags who think the more they poison us as a fan base the worse it will get, wake up we are being driven by mags in these post this forum has had its share of bad times but im afraid it will not get better for a while. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted May 10, 2020 Share Posted May 10, 2020 this whole thing about the owners and investment, debt, etc is mostly driven by mags who think the more they poison us as a fan base the worse it will get, wake up we are being driven by mags in these post this forum has had its share of bad times but im afraid it will not get better for a while. :lol: Wtf is that meant to mean? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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