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On 12/03/2024 at 12:51, pubteam said:

Each time longstaff takes a dive I reckon Eddie should fine him. He's not cute like Bruno, he can't get away with it, he's just a 6ft oath dropping like a sack of spuds.

 

This, then the moan to the ref when he hasn't bought it, and he's already 10 yards out of position. Happens at least once a game. 

 

 

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On 12/03/2024 at 10:54, huss9 said:

agree.

i think he may be one of those that needs to move from him his home town club.

there's too much pressure on him here - both from fans and from himself.

needs to get away.

 

That's fine, just don't expect him to pull up any trees if he moves away. He's very much a homeboy IMO, if anything I think he'd find it harder playing at another club where the fans won't be as forgiving because he's a local. He's playing above his level at the moment, I think he'd look far more confident in a championship side. Even at a lower half Prem club there'd be a lot of pressure and moaning fans.

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I don't necessarily think he needs to move away, he just needs to be used as a squad player. He can be effective and it's great keeping a local core, he just shouldn't be starting every match. This season's injuries and Tonali have dictated that he plays much more, next season he'll player a lesser role (touch wood) and I bet he looks all the better for it when he does feature.

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7 hours ago, Pilko said:

I don't necessarily think he needs to move away, he just needs to be used as a squad player. He can be effective and it's great keeping a local core, he just shouldn't be starting every match. This season's injuries and Tonali have dictated that he plays much more, next season he'll player a lesser role (touch wood) and I bet he looks all the better for it when he does feature.

 

I agree, I just think it's far too infrequent for someone who we're suggesting plays...infrequently [emoji38]

 

 

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If we can get £18-20m for him just do it. We can keep Anderson around the 6th choice mark and Miley's ceiling is far higher.

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3 hours ago, Optimistic Nut said:

If we can get £18-20m for him just do it. We can keep Anderson around the 6th choice mark and Miley's ceiling is far higher.

Living up to your username there.

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2 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Longstaff won't be leaving in the summer - nor should he be at any point in the near future.  There are UEFA's HG rules for a start.

 

Register one less GK next year (who has 4 registered?), get shot of Longstaff, keep Miley around the place. Get some pure profit on Longstaff for FFP.

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13 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

Register one less GK next year (who has 4 registered?), get shot of Longstaff, keep Miley around the place. Get some pure profit on Longstaff for FFP.

I still think he’s a solid PL player - he’s not the greatest, like.

 

Ultimately, every player is sellable - it’s the HG element which would have concerned me.  I don’t think Miley is at Longstaff’s level at all at the moment.  Hopefully in a few years’ time he’ll be far better than him

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A bit puzzled as to why he would play and injured Longstaff over the others. Both because other could do a better job in this scenario, but also the injury can get worse. Worth the risk? Did his sports science team tell him to pick him?

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Likelylad said:

Howe defending him this morning in his press conference. 

Said he's playing through an injury.. 

Miley should have played ahead of him then tbh because he was a passenger on Monday..

He really said that?

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Lots of players play through injuries with painkillers etc - depends on the nature of it. It's hardly like we've been bursting at the seams with options. It would make sense though - there's been a drop off from last season when his engine got him through games and he worked his way into matches because of it.

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If he’s playing through an injury, why is he playing every minute of every game when there’s options that can play his position on the bench. Howe doesn’t seem to be learning regarding injuries from the start of the season and seems unable to rotate the squad. 

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4 minutes ago, Abacus said:

Lots of players play through injuries with painkillers etc - depends on the nature of it. It's hardly like we've been bursting at the seams with options. It would make sense though - there's been a drop off from last season when his engine got him through games and he worked his way into matches because of it.

 

There is reason to believe that Miley or Anderson could've done better anyways, considering how Longstaff has played with his injury..

 

 

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Just now, Erikse said:

 

There is reason to believe that Miley or Anderson could've done better anyways, considering how Longstaff has played with his injury..

 

 

 

Well maybe, but then Miley is young and to some has already been overplayed. And Anderson has just come back, and to some we make returning players come back too soon.

 

A fit and firing Anderson, I'd probably agree with you, but I don't see what goes on in training. And I also remember how much when Longstaff was out previously, he was suddenly missed, just like Anderson is the solution now.

 

I think had Joelinton been fit, this would have been less of an issue, as the others could have been rotated more easily as the situation required. And I won't even mention Tonali.

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Ok he's injured, I think it was obvious he's not 100% and carrying something, but that doesn't explain why he's getting 90+ minutes when others around him are subbed off, that's the only head scratcher for me.

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13 hours ago, Ronaldo said:

I’d rather we move towards footballers in the middle. You’re always playing with a deficit with someone with that fundamental lack of ability.

Agreed. He doesn't even offer top-level athleticism either.

 

13 hours ago, Optimistic Nut said:

If we can get £18-20m for him just do it. We can keep Anderson around the 6th choice mark and Miley's ceiling is far higher.

I agree. But I can't see it happening.

 

I think £10m is more realistic. I'd take that.

 

7 hours ago, Zero said:

I think only championship promoting teams would have interest to bid something like 12-15m for him. 

In the Hull-Bruce, Stoke-Pulis, Wigan-Jewell era aye. But most Championship teams coming up try to play proper football and want footballers in their side. Like - he could go to a Luton but they would offer half what you're suggesting and think he'd be good value in the Champ.

 

23 minutes ago, Erikse said:

A bit puzzled as to why he would play and injured Longstaff over the others. Both because other could do a better job in this scenario, but also the injury can get worse. Worth the risk? Did his sports science team tell him to pick him?

 

 

 

With everything we've seen this season, are you genuinely puzzled?

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