Sean Longstaff

[AyeDubbleYoo]

36 minutes ago, Big River said:

I like Sean, but it's no coincidence the "easy targets" are typically our worst performers

 

it never seems to be personal (I can't speak for what he sees/reads on social media, obviously)

Yeah, easy targets is the wrong word. They get criticism because they play bad. 

[gbandit]

8 minutes ago, Big River said:

 

here you go:

 

This AI generated?

[Big River]

Just now, gbandit said:

This AI generated?

 

don't think so mate, from George Caulkin at The Athletic

[gbandit]

It's such bizarre copy, I like Caulkin's writing as well

[Dr.Spaceman]

Thank God he clocked Streets of Rage 2 in Toronto rather than go out and take in his surroundings.

 

What a bizarre piece 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Big River must've rewritten that, no?

 

Or I've anti-whooshed myself. 

 

 

Edited August 7, 2024 by AyeDubbleYoo

[Rich]

Still getting the blame for the mad stuff Phil does at 37, man .

[vexred]

It reads like a piss take.

 

"This interest in law enforcement shows a different side of the midfielder's personality, one that appreciates the structure and challenges of a career in policing." 

 

That bit tickled me. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

2 minutes ago, Rich said:

Still getting the blame for the mad stuff Phil does at 37, man .

 

Dammit, sorry, always do that

[Shearergol]

 It's beautifully written.

[Skeletor]

Two tier fan base.

[Bondedcrown]

you mean the ones who know how football works and those who have no clue?

[80]

45 minutes ago, gbandit said:

It's such bizarre copy, I like Caulkin's writing as well

 

40 minutes ago, Dr.Spaceman said:

Thank God he clocked Streets of Rage 2 in Toronto rather than go out and take in his surroundings.

 

What a bizarre piece 

 

34 minutes ago, vexred said:

It reads like a piss take.

 

"This interest in law enforcement shows a different side of the midfielder's personality, one that appreciates the structure and challenges of a career in policing." 

 

That bit tickled me. 

A lesson in self-sufficiency for you all  

[gjohnson]

1 hour ago, Big River said:

I like Sean, but it's no coincidence the "easy targets" are typically our worst performers

 

it never seems to be personal (I can't speak for what he sees/reads on social media, obviously)

Everyone in the team is a target, some are just harder than others. Ones that don't contribute to wins and/or cost points are the easy ones. Put two and two together Sean and you're not getting 5 here. He's an easy target as he's making himself one...if anything he gets off lightly be being local. 

 

He must have some awareness about whether he's had a bad game or not

[Crimson Cardigan]

I think the level of vitriol they get online is ridiculous. They have limitations but they give everything. Longstaff is clearly not shit, he’s a standard premier league midfielder and easily worth a squad place. Reckon some people need to realise we’re not going to have an Isak or a Bruno in every position for a long, long time, if ever.

[TRon]

3 minutes ago, Crimson Cardigan said:

I think the level of vitriol they get online is ridiculous. They have limitations but they give everything. Longstaff is clearly not shit, he’s a standard premier league midfielder and easily worth a squad place. Reckon some people need to realise we’re not going to have an Isak or a Bruno in every position for a long, long time, if ever.

 

I agree, he's a fine squad player, so is Miggy, so is Murphy. IMO Anderson and Minteh were even better squad players as they were younger so had a higher ceiling as well, but we had to sell them for PSR reasons. If we could keep everyone and just buy without selling, that would be ideal. The only reason we have to contemplate selling Longstaff is because selling is the only way we are currently allowed to bring top players in.

 

That said, no one deserves abuse, Longstaff has been a stalwart performer for Newcastle down the years.

[Bimpy474]

Well I would point out, he's not making tackles, lacks pace, falls/dives over at the slightest touch, his passing is OK, his short passing is terrible. His finishing is OK.

 

He's probably a standard midfielder as stated in the Premier League, however, and this will sound arrogant, but it's not meant to. He's nowhere near the standard required for us to kick on.

[huss9]

4 minutes ago, Bimpy474 said:

Well I would point out, he's not making tackles, lacks pace, falls/dives over at the slightest touch, his passing is OK, his short passing is terrible. His finishing is OK.

 

He's probably a standard midfielder as stated in the Premier League, however, and this will sound arrogant, but it's not meant to. He's nowhere near the standard required for us to kick on.

As with shola back in the day, this lad doesn't pick himself and is only as good as what he is.

[et tu brute]

Comes across as a decent lad and obviously should be thanked for his service, but I still can't wait for the day when he is not at the club anymore 

[Upthemags]

Longstaff usually seems genuinely likeable, but if PIF cosign Staveley's ambitions, this lad can't be anywhere near the starting XI. There are relegation-battling sides he wouldn't get a start in.

 

Happy for him to get the odd 20 30 minutes as needed - think he can be serviceable as a squad player. But being nice doesn't put points on the table. Also, not for anything, but you'd hope the lad would have a bit more self-awareness after a truly awful season. Bit strange to impliedly lambast fans and make yourself out to be the victim when you can't go 30 seconds without flopping onto the pitch. Would've been much more honorable to say I didn't have the season I wanted to (due to injuries, new kid, what have you) and I'm eager to come back better next season.

[Upthemags]

11 minutes ago, Bimpy474 said:

Well I would point out, he's not making tackles, lacks pace, falls/dives over at the slightest touch, his passing is OK, his short passing is terrible. His finishing is OK.

 

He's probably a standard midfielder as stated in the Premier League, however, and this will sound arrogant, but it's not meant to. He's nowhere near the standard required for us to kick on.

Think his one above-median quality is his positioning. Always seems to find the right spots in the box before launching it 30 meters wide of the mark.

[LFEE]

5 minutes ago, et tu brute said:

Comes across as a decent lad and obviously should be thanked for his service, but I still can't wait for the day when he is not at the club anymore 

Yet we were a defensive mess without him in the team and our fortunes only changed when he replaced Tonali and we started a winning run and tightened up at the back.

 

Im no big fan of his but let’s never forget he’s been quite pivotal in his role since EH arrived.

[et tu brute]

Just now, LFEE said:

Yet we were a defensive mess without him in the team and our fortunes only changed when he replaced Tonali and we started a winning run and tightened up at the back.

 

Im no big fan of his but let’s never forget he’s been quite pivotal in his role since EH arrived.

Disagree totally, but entitled to your opinion 

[Upthemags]

1 minute ago, LFEE said:

Yet we were a defensive mess without him in the team and our fortunes only changed when he replaced Tonali and we started a winning run and tightened up at the back.

 

Im no big fan of his but let’s never forget he’s been quite pivotal in his role since EH arrived.

I don't mean to be rude but did we watch the same team last season? Opposing teams cut through our Longstaffian midfield like butter. That's not to say he didn't have a couple of nice games after Tonali was out/beforehand.

[OoOGazOoO]

There isn't really a need for hatred or rude comments to be made to him or about him, but his performances last season were below average.

 

That is ok to say. They are pro footballers, earning a fairly sizeable wedge each week which a lot of normal folk would have to work a lifetime or at least years for. Criticism is and in fairness, should be, part and parcel of the game.

 

A lot of the basics were just not there with him last year, possession easily lost, not clinical when in advanced areas, falling over a lot of the time.

 

We could have a team full of lovely guys, and play in the Championship, or we can have a team full of talent to progress us in future years. I certainly don't think the club just wave a white flag to attitude and what they are like as a person, so I don't envisage someone being an absolute tool but an amazing player, it's pretty clear the club look at what the person is like and don't just base signings on footballing ability alone.