Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Clark must be gutted, so much quality ahead of him at the minute it would seem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Can't remember Woodgate ever making a mistake, he was class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 We've got a good bunch, that's for sure. You could also put this in the Rafa thread, because coaching is a huge aspect, but one thing that has been disappointing this season is our set pieces, for and against. We've conceded loads from them, again against Bournemouth, and not really threatened in spite of Lascelles and Fernandez being good targets and Ritchie and Shelvey being good strikers of the ball. For all our striker troubles, we've scored eight times from open play, which is only one fewer than Tottenham (!) Unlike them, we missed the one pen we got and have done little with set pieces. As it happens, our games feature joint most corners by both teams, so all the more reason to improve at them. https://www.windrawwin.com/statistics/corners/england-premier-league/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 To be honest I'm broadly of the school of thought that spending big money on CBs is a false economy anyway, at least at the bottom end of things. If you're coaching a defensively minded side it's possible to get a lot from a little. Big money on defenders is only really justified when you're getting somebody absolutely out of this world as a footballer and athlete, and they're being bought to play in a side where you need to be excellent at that. I doubted the money at the time but van Dijk is probably an example of this. Agree to a point. I actually think it's very difficult to find defenders that are good at the basics 98% of the time. Marking, heading, pushing up etc. think the key to the bold bit is that you have to be coaching them well to achieve this, pardew coached a defensively minded setup and we were a fucking shambles also at this sort of level rafa is making it very clear that one of them being able to play with the ball at his feet as well is paramount And my point is a lot of basic defending is difficult to coach. There were times Colo would only win 40% of his aerial duals. It's hard to defend with performances like that. We've had defenders terrible at some basic aspects of defending for a long time at this club from Janmaat, Santon, Willo, Colo at times etc. Although I agree, Rafa is tremendous at organising a defence. The rest of the teams down at the bottom - are just defensive. Even Burnley and Brighton depend a lot on "will and desire" rather than genuine good defending a lot of the time. Apparently Huddersfield don't concede as many genuine GS'ing opportunities or shots in the box as one might expect too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Boy Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Can't remember Woodgate ever making a mistake, he was class. what? apart from the massive one that cost us the champions league tie against Partizan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Still amazed at this tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Lejeune and 1 (/2) other. Bloke is pure class, our best CB comfortably Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Schar’s so good on the ball he has to start. Lejeune is really good on both sides and one of Fernandez/Lascelles in the middle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Schar’s so good on the ball he has to start. Lejeune is really good on both sides and one of Fernandez/Lascelles in the middle This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribesman Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Remember before we got relegated we had Colo, Taylor and Williamson as centre back options for years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Schar’s so good on the ball he has to start. Lejeune is really good on both sides and one of Fernandez/Lascelles in the middle This. This aswell. Without doubt our best option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Remember before we got relegated we had Colo, Taylor and Williamson as centre back options for years. that was a dark time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 i like all our CBs - they are not top quality but i enjoy watching them all. Good characters. Lascelles is probably the one i like the least... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 If we take the lead against poor to average teams, we have strong depth here. We have options they can all contribute. Keep solid and work hard for a clean sheet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 I think we need another ball playing centre-back in the summer. Take either one of Lejeune or Schar out and it takes a lot out of how we play. One of the best things about us at the moment is that we have the ability to play out from left and right. Lascelles and Fernandez is fine for the central spot but we need someone better who can just slot in for one of the other two without having to change the way we play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Lejeune, Lascelles and one other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 I think we need another ball playing centre-back in the summer. Take either one of Lejeune or Schar out and it takes a lot out of how we play. One of the best things about us at the moment is that we have the ability to play out from left and right. Lascelles and Fernandez is fine for the central spot but we need someone better who can just slot in for one of the other two without having to change the way we play. Agree love our back 3 Be lucky to get another ball playing defender in our price range so lucky to even have 2 of that type for the money we payed IF Rafa added Bartra from Betis to our collection though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Rafa's CB signings have been brilliant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Interesting that Mbemba has barely played for Porto this season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
morla84 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Rafa sorted out our centre backs and keeper for what Fulham paid for mitro. Goals dont beat relegation, clean sheets do 👍 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Interesting that Mbemba has barely played for Porto this season Reckon he was just brought in as back up for now tbf, and his early injury won't have helped matters given the need for consistency in his position. The other options they have are far more experienced too, in Pepe and Felipe, both of whom have been playing well by all accounts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPL Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Why only option for 2? Would feel comfortable with any of the 4 bar Clark as 5th choice, who has actually been solid when asked to do a job this season and chipped in with goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 Rafa’s got it right. Three at the back. Lascelles, Lejeuene, Schar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 How do I edit the poll to allow for 3 options? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiotes Witch Doctor Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 It's a shame in a way though because Fernandez was an absolute rock for us and is more than good enough to be starting too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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