Unbelievable Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 1 hour ago, Dr.Spaceman said: The more I think about this the more I think the situation with our RW is nowhere near as bad as is being made out. Yes, we could do with an upgrade and I believe that an elite would transform us, however, it's not as if we're sticking Michael Bridges or Fabrice Pancrate out there, is it? Both Murphy and Miggy are serviceable (to an extent) and are likely to put in a handful of very good performances between the two of them. And if Madueke is the potential replacement this window then I'd much rather see Mitchell etc spend another few months working on a better deal for a better player. I agree between Murphy and Almiron our RW is servicable and certainly not as bad as some would have you believe (especially considering Howe would want a player who can play a high press game), but I do wonder what better deal for what better player you think we'd be able to get than Madueke at the reported 30m Chelsea want for him, because that seems to me like a pretty damn good deal for a pretty damn good profile of player in our position? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 1 hour ago, jonny1403 said: Agree with this. Most people are letting their frustrations with Miggy personally cloud the fact that we are already one of the best attacking teams in the league. We’ve never had any problems scoring goals, it’s the other end of the pitch that was the issue last year. The goals and assists were mostly coming from the left side though, Gordon had a blinding season. If we rely on Miggy and Murphy this campaign, I can see Murphy getting a few assists and the odd goal. Miggy will provide very few assists, and not many goals as everyone has wised up that he will cut inside and try to curl one in. Other than that he's not much threat. Between them they can do a job, whether that will get us into the CL might be another thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Just now, TRon said: The goals and assists were mostly coming from the left side though, Gordon had a blinding season. If we rely on Miggy and Murphy this campaign, I can see Murphy getting a few assists and the odd goal. Miggy will provide very few assists, and not many goals as everyone has wised up that he will cut inside and try to curl one in. Other than that he's not much threat. Between them they can do a job, whether that will get us into the CL might be another thing. Exactly this, Schar scored more goals than Miggy and Murphy last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny1403 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 2 minutes ago, TRon said: The goals and assists were mostly coming from the left side though, Gordon had a blinding season. If we rely on Miggy and Murphy this campaign, I can see Murphy getting a few assists and the odd goal. Miggy will provide very few assists, and not many goals as everyone has wised up that he will cut inside and try to curl one in. Other than that he's not much threat. Between them they can do a job, whether that will get us into the CL might be another thing. But as mentioned goals weren’t a problem last year. We’ll be more limited on the right than the left but there’s no evidence to suggest that will impact a CL push. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny1403 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 3 minutes ago, TRon said: The goals and assists were mostly coming from the left side though, Gordon had a blinding season. If we rely on Miggy and Murphy this campaign, I can see Murphy getting a few assists and the odd goal. Miggy will provide very few assists, and not many goals as everyone has wised up that he will cut inside and try to curl one in. Other than that he's not much threat. Between them they can do a job, whether that will get us into the CL might be another thing. And given that Murphy got 7 assists and 3 goals last season despite not being a regular starter, I’m not sure why you think he’d get less this year when he’s in better form, more likely to start and playing in a better team with less injuries and less fatigue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankpingel Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Not sure if Giggs but Talksport Radio saying bid was £8m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Get it to 10 and take it if it means we can get a replacement. It's the last chance you're going to get any kind of fee for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 1 minute ago, frankpingel said: Not sure if Giggs but Talksport Radio saying bid was £8m. We should be looking at twice that, so fair enough. He had Saudi offers, he rejected them, again fair enough but we like him won't just accept any offer to pacify the other side. If he wants to leave, then he needs to be more open to offers, if we want him gone, we have to reevaluate our asking price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Feel a bit sorry for Miggy being treated like a worthless obstacle to our progress :/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 My biggest problem with our RW options isn’t even the number of goals and assists, it’s how often we seem to lose the ball when we go up that side. Both of them lack the technical ability to hold onto the ball and pass it around in tight spaces and it can turn games into basketball matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 If true, no new winger then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 I think we can get a winger anyway, and mostl likely will. Hopefully Madueke as I think he would have an insane season with us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Will we have enough squad space for 3 right wingers? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 1 minute ago, Ikon said: I think we can get a winger anyway, and mostl likely will. Hopefully Madueke as I think he would have an insane season with us. Can't see us having 3 RWs, doesn't seem like Howe's style to have too many options in one position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 I think we've got 26 players that need to be registered as it stands, 27 if Guehi or another CB come in That's not including Ruddy (28) or Jamie Miley who I think is U21 still? It also doesn't include Lewis, Fraser, Ashby or Hayden (32) who we're still paying a wage. . We sign a RW (33) too and that's a squad of 25 plus eight players who we're paying a salary to but can't register. Unless we make some serious moves on outgoings I would be surprised if we brought in a RW if either Almiron or Murphy don't leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Why we are so keen for Almiron to stay k don’t know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 If we want him to stay then I’m not sure what significance ‘opening offer’ has. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emotic Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 2 minutes ago, gdm said: Why we are so keen for Almiron to stay k don’t know Probably because saying "yes, we want him gone" undermines our bargaining position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 If they’d offered us 15m he’d be gone. MLS clubs don’t spent that sort of money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 Just now, Emotic said: Probably because saying "yes, we want him gone" undermines our bargaining position. We don’t have to say anything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 5 minutes ago, gdm said: We don’t have to say anything We haven't...? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Cardigan Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 9 minutes ago, gdm said: Why we are so keen for Almiron to stay k don’t know Because 8m is peanuts and Howe rates him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 1 minute ago, Unbelievable said: We haven't...? Well yes but Ryder must have heard it from somewhere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoot Posted August 13 Share Posted August 13 9 minutes ago, Emotic said: Probably because saying "yes, we want him gone" undermines our bargaining position. Still can't believe people can't see this when reading articles on some of our players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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