Guest Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Amazing game this by the way. One of the best I’ve seen for a long time. Two evenly matched teams just going for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 VAR is supposed to be used for "clear and obvious" errors. Given the awkward angle, they've taken a punt that he's offside and ruled it out. It's a misuse of VAR. Not for offsides it isn’t. I think if you're guessing then you should let the goal stand. Given the camera angle, camera distortion and the extremely fine margins, there's no way they can definitively call that offside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Could a linesman see he's 1mm offside no, so it shouldn't be overturned. But the law means these decisions have to be right. There's no grey area. Other countries with VAR aren't going to this length though in checking this closely from what I've seen. The law needs changing but the PL are making a ridiculous hash of it, just like they aren't intervening enough when there's blatant pens etc. But this is a blatant offside according to the rules whether it's just offside or miles offside. Penalties and fouls, there's still that element of interpretation (even if the Lascelles one last week and on Kane recently looked like pens to me) Blatant Technology showed it’s offside. The referee can’t view that then say, nah, I’m ignoring that. How did technology show it was offside? It was a bloke drawing (very thick) lines on a paused frame. It's not AI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 I’m assuming the line is automatic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Eriksen’s delivery has been shocking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 I’m assuming the line is automatic. It's not though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 How is this any less accurate? https://twitter.com/BallsBurgess/status/1175398011381473280 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Leeds should have won this at a canter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Could a linesman see he's 1mm offside no, so it shouldn't be overturned. But the law means these decisions have to be right. There's no grey area. Other countries with VAR aren't going to this length though in checking this closely from what I've seen. The law needs changing but the PL are making a ridiculous hash of it, just like they aren't intervening enough when there's blatant pens etc. But this is a blatant offside according to the rules whether it's just offside or miles offside. Penalties and fouls, there's still that element of interpretation (even if the Lascelles one last week and on Kane recently looked like pens to me) Blatant Technology showed it’s offside. The referee can’t view that then say, nah, I’m ignoring that. How did technology show it was offside? It was a bloke drawing (very thick) lines on a paused frame. It's not AI. More often than not they’ll get it right though using that system, though. It’s not like the Carabao Cup farce last season with the wonky lines. If FIFA or UEFA are going to be so anal with the offside law, VAR will be anal when it comes to carrying out that law. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Back to the game though, Leicester are fucking good. On a par with everything outside of the top 2 imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Back to the game though, Leicester are fucking good. On a par with everything outside of the top 2 imo. Don't think they are great defensively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Spurs are such a soft touch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Back to the game though, Leicester are fucking good. On a par with everything outside of the top 2 imo. Don't think they are great defensively. Not sure Spurs, Arsenal, etc are too tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Back to the game though, Leicester are fucking good. On a par with everything outside of the top 2 imo. Don't think they are great defensively. Not sure Spurs, Arsenal, etc are too tbf. True. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 But..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Gutting to see tin pot clubs do well while we're slumming it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 I’m assuming the line is automatic. It's not though. That’s weird, are you sure? Assumed the software would draw a line on the back of the defenders. Ah well, anyway, if you’re going to use it for offside then a line is going to have to be drawn. Which will lead to loads of ‘mm offside’ type decisions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 I’m assuming the line is automatic. It's not though. That’s weird, are you sure? Assumed the software would draw a line on the back of the defenders. Ah well, anyway, if you’re going to use it for offside then a line is going to have to be drawn. Which will lead to loads of ‘mm offside’ type decisions. Also the operator has to decide on the frame to stop it at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Watched some of the Leicester game, they are looking good. Spurs don’t seem upto scratch at all like they usually are/used to be. That VAR offside goal is a joke, fannies hair in it. Ridiculous! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 They shouldn't be looking at the exact moment the ball regains it's shape as it leaves the boot of the player to determine an off-side. It's fucking ludicrous and not what anybody wants. If nobody wants it then literally what is the point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 I’m assuming the line is automatic. It's not though. That’s weird, are you sure? Assumed the software would draw a line on the back of the defenders. Ah well, anyway, if you’re going to use it for offside then a line is going to have to be drawn. Which will lead to loads of ‘mm offside’ type decisions. The TV shows them trying to line it up with shoulder/knee/armpit. As neesy says, it's also dependent on the frame. It's guesswork basically. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 At last the attacker hasn’t got the advantage anymore Offside is offside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 You must get so little enjoyment out of football Defenders and goalkeepers get far more advantages than attackers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 So weird. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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