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Can't get my head around the same people calling Bruce a dinosaur and yet simultaneously hankering for Keegan coming back.

 

Completely different and its pretty obvious. Dinosaur isn't a reference to age necessarily, but more their characteristics as a coach.

 

Not that I'm on the Keegan bandwagon, but he's the polar opposite of Bruce in so many ways.

 

I know it doesn't make sense logically, but I would still believe that Keegan would be able to get a good team firing just through sheer personality. He's not going to win anything, I agree, but I still think he could build a side that is great to watch. I'd fucking watch them.

 

I think where Keegan would be a huge asset now is being involved in signing players/talking to potential signings. He could always sell the dream to players.

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Can't get my head around the same people calling Bruce a dinosaur and yet simultaneously hankering for Keegan coming back.

 

Completely different and its pretty obvious. Dinosaur isn't a reference to age necessarily, but more their characteristics as a coach.

 

Not that I'm on the Keegan bandwagon, but he's the polar opposite of Bruce in so many ways.

 

If you think Keegan, with his years off before us and ten year off after us, will be a more modern and progressive coach than Bruce then I don't even know what to say to you. You simply can't be that dumb.

 

You have clearly read my posts incorrectly. I never said the bit in bold and even pointed out that I wasn't in support of the idea of bringing him back.

 

The fact that you consider to be Bruce to be progressive in any way is quite interesting however - out of interest what is it that makes you think this? Genuinely interested.

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The Athletic are probably under pressure to write content at the moment given there is little sport going on and folk are paying a subscription for it. Could be a bit of that.

Sadly, that is my viewpoint too.

Disappointed in Caulkin if that's the case but I guess he maybe had little choice if under pressure to proceed something.

I was thinking this also-

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What exactly are they submitting to the Premier League? It was my understanding that this was a late stage thing for the fit and proper persons check etc and that the deal itself was all but done? How can they be submitting things to the Prem before even agreeing anything?

 

Yeah this gets me too. Are they submitting something saying "we're talking, we may not reach an agreement, but it won't be Ashley's fault as usual..." or what?  :lol:

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1. If you're suggesting that George Caulkin is being pressured by the Athletic to make up a story or falsify information to get some clicks and reads, then you're really insulting a man who's very much shown the most integrity and respect to us as fans of this club - who has always told it as it is. If you haven't read the article or listened to the podcast where he gives context to all of this, then please do before coming up with that.

 

2. If you still believe that Kieth Bishop, the warlord mastermind of PR has conjured up a smoke and mirror amidst Covid-19 involving Amanda Staveley, the Reubens, and PIF then you really need your head checked.

 

3. The NEW information over the past few days is that the PL has been notified a deal is near between PIF and Mike Ashley. This was allegedly submitted LAST week. So between that time and today, we very much could have a signed agreement of sale, a deposit, and the test could very much have started. It has been said many times that once that test begins, it becomes a black box until the outcome. In a situation where "no comment" is the norm for MA and NUFC, there is no promise we will hear anything else until its done or failed.

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My issue with George Caulkin coming up with the story now is that it isn't a done deal (as far as we are all aware). I'd love to think that history will tell us that at the time of writing, it was all sorted but until that happens, putting the Takeover story back out into the public domain is poor form from a NUFC fan because it's making fans believe that change is finally coming.

I remain skeptical that it is.

 

I'd rather he kept his mouth shut until he was able to confirm that it was signed, sealed and delivered.

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So a few other journalists are knocking the story about - and my assumption here is this: George knows that many NUFC supporters trust his word as no-spin, no MA crony, no Bishop ally, etc. - he's George, man from the NE with no agenda. And that's why he's written it, because not only can he confirm that the PL has this paper work from both sides, but he's got it confirmed from his sources, and he's writing this to show that he's not hiding from the story (giving rise that it's all MA spin).

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My issue with George Caulkin coming up with the story now is that it isn't a done deal (as far as we are all aware). I'd love to think that history will tell us that at the time of writing, it was all sorted but until that happens, putting the Takeover story back out into the public domain is poor form from a NUFC fan because it's making fans believe that change is finally coming.

I remain skeptical that it is.

 

I'd rather he kept his mouth shut until he was able to confirm that it was signed, sealed and delivered.

 

But at the end of the day, he’s not a fans spokesperson, he’s a journalist who gets paid to write (hopefully factual) stories and relay them. If he believes in what he’s written, then he’s doing himself and his employers a disservice by keeping quiet.

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3. The NEW information over the past few days is that the PL has been notified a deal is near between PIF and Mike Ashley. This was allegedly submitted LAST week. So between that time and today, we very much could have a signed agreement of sale, a deposit, and the test could very much have started. It has been said many times that once that test begins, it becomes a black box until the outcome. In a situation where "no comment" is the norm for MA and NUFC, there is no promise we will hear anything else until its done or failed.

 

Is this confirmed though? George didn't confirm it in his article.

 

Also, what does the proper person test involve?

 

"Have you been crucifying atheists?"

 

"Have I been crucifying (voice peters out).................What?"

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Quick question.

 

Should I order my new season ticket now to avoid the rush later when this is confirmed?

:idiot2: :idiot2:

Beliebe. It’s coming home. Imagine mike Ashley under a house with just his donnay be-stockinged feet sticking out and Rafa stepping out the front door and popping on a pair of ruby slippers.

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Can't get my head around the same people calling Bruce a dinosaur and yet simultaneously hankering for Keegan coming back.

 

Completely different and its pretty obvious. Dinosaur isn't a reference to age necessarily, but more their characteristics as a coach.

 

Not that I'm on the Keegan bandwagon, but he's the polar opposite of Bruce in so many ways.

 

If you think Keegan, with his years off before us and ten year off after us, will be a more modern and progressive coach than Bruce then I don't even know what to say to you. You simply can't be that dumb.

 

He’d be a million times the manager that Bruce is, even now.

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3. The NEW information over the past few days is that the PL has been notified a deal is near between PIF and Mike Ashley. This was allegedly submitted LAST week. So between that time and today, we very much could have a signed agreement of sale, a deposit, and the test could very much have started. It has been said many times that once that test begins, it becomes a black box until the outcome. In a situation where "no comment" is the norm for MA and NUFC, there is no promise we will hear anything else until its done or failed.

 

Is this confirmed though? George didn't confirm it in his article.

 

Also, what does the proper person test involve?

 

"Have you been crucifying atheists?"

 

"Have I been crucifying (voice peters out).................What?"

 

podcast provided such context that was submitted by both sides.

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My issue with George Caulkin coming up with the story now is that it isn't a done deal (as far as we are all aware). I'd love to think that history will tell us that at the time of writing, it was all sorted but until that happens, putting the Takeover story back out into the public domain is poor form from a NUFC fan because it's making fans believe that change is finally coming.

I remain skeptical that it is.

I'd rather he kept his mouth shut until he was able to confirm that it was signed, sealed and delivered.

But at the end of the day, he’s not a fans spokesperson, he’s a journalist who gets paid to write (hopefully factual) stories and relay them. If he believes in what he’s written, then he’s doing himself and his employers a disservice by keeping quiet.

Of course, that's absolutely fair.

I guess I'm just baffled as to why the story has come out now when earlier in the year, he didn't want to touch it with a barge pole.

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