Pandamninator Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Got to say the ch5 documentary shows Mike is a reasonable and effective businessman Oh look, another dormant account that hasn't posted in a decade suddenly piping up, supporting Mike Ashley. What a shock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Surely there is a billionaire out there who not only has the wealth but also the brains to buy us and get it a deal done and over with with this fat cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandamninator Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Surely there is a billionaire out there who not only has the wealth but also the brains to buy us and get it a deal done and over with with this fat cunt. Why pay the pricks asking price and have to put up with lord knows what Rangers style clauses he has stuck into the clubs commercial contracts hobbling your revenue when you can buy a "lesser" club in a better state for cheaper and use the money saved to sink into transfers. Sports ownership is a small community, and word spreads. There is a reason why we have only really had chancers dating back to Barry Moat and people trying to cobble together consortiums seriously interested despite every major American NFL and NBA owner considering the Premier League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Nobody can buy us as long as MA continues to want £1 more than anyone is willing to pay. It's an impossible purchase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Some right f***ing melts on twitter https://twitter.com/paullarkin21/status/1163115874456350725 How does he not get it? Match day income is worth about what? 10%? It means the buyer has leverage over the seller. If we stop going we become worth more to the buyer than the seller. Therefore handing them the advantage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Just a few tweets down https://mobile.twitter.com/paullarkin21/status/1132011231336968193 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest covmag Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Got to say the ch5 documentary shows Mike is a reasonable and effective businessman Just ban this daft mackem cunt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Some right f***ing melts on twitter https://twitter.com/paullarkin21/status/1163115874456350725 How does he not get it? Match day income is worth about what? 10%? It means the buyer has leverage over the seller. If we stop going we become worth more to the buyer than the seller. Therefore handing them the advantage. 'unless there's a buyer' Some people really are thick enough to believe there's never been legit buyers aren't they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 For those saying 'we might as well stay up, because he hasn't sold us when we were in the Championship', he's only tried to sell us once when we were down there, while he's been trying to sell us for ages whilst in the Premier League. He's never really tried IMO. But do you think it's "easier" to sell the club if we're in the Championship? I think there are two situations where he sells; someone offers him a deal too good to turn down while where in the PL or we actually start costing him money because we're in the Championship (or lower). The evidence we have so far is when we are in the PL, he runs us as a £100m business, but wants £350m+ for us, so think it's unlikely he'll sell us while we are in the PL. Outside of the PL, he "tried" to sell us the first time we went down, but not while Rafa was here. I think the most likely chance for us to get sold is to stay down, because not only is that the uncharted territory, but he's been proven to want ridiculous amounts compared to how he runs club while in the PL. I agree about the two situations, but I think the first one is more likely. He wants to get as much money as possible for the club. If we’re in the Championship there’s always the risk he wants to get back up before selling. When does the club start costing him money? After one season in the Champo? In a way I’ve resigned to him staying until he decides to sell, for whatever reason, regardless of which division we’re in. Without looking into it too much, I would guess it'll be around then aye. Saying all of this though, and enjoying Brucey losing and being so out of his depth, I'm still not entirely sure that I want us to get relegated. Loathe being in that shit hole division almost as much as I hate Ashley, and if he sells us while we're down there, it could easily be to a pair of chancers like the mackems got. Yeah, my thoughts are about the same regarding relegation. I want Ashley out as much as the next man. But Rafa showed me that it's actually possible to support this club/team, despite Ashley. Can't see us getting a manager like that again under Ashley though. Desperate times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Got to say the ch5 documentary shows Mike is a reasonable and effective businessman Just ban this daft mackem cunt Not sure he’s a Mackem, unless there are Mackems from Bedlington. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Some right f***ing melts on twitter https://twitter.com/paullarkin21/status/1163115874456350725 How does he not get it? Match day income is worth about what? 10%? It means the buyer has leverage over the seller. If we stop going we become worth more to the buyer than the seller. Therefore handing them the advantage. Matchday income is around the £30m mark which is a huge wedge of money. The point that many people miss is that, without fans, there is no football club. I'm still certain a mass boycott would rid us of him sooner rather than later. Never happening, but it would. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Little Waster Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Got to say the ch5 documentary shows Mike is a reasonable and effective businessman Just ban this daft mackem cunt Not sure he’s a Mackem, unless there are Mackems from Bedlington. Northumberland has pockets of Sunderland fans thanks to the old mining communities where families in the north east would sometimes move to different pits to work . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
polkaDot Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Got to say the ch5 documentary shows Mike is a reasonable and effective businessman Just ban this daft mackem c*** Not sure he’s a Mackem, unless there are Mackems from Bedlington. Northumberland has pockets of Sunderland fans thanks to the old mining communities where families in the north east would sometimes move to different pits to work . Remnants of scab labour that were brought in by the pit bosses when the locals were on strike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Some right f***ing melts on twitter https://twitter.com/paullarkin21/status/1163115874456350725 How does he not get it? Match day income is worth about what? 10%? It means the buyer has leverage over the seller. If we stop going we become worth more to the buyer than the seller. Therefore handing them the advantage. Matchday income is around the £30m mark which is a huge wedge of money. The point that many people miss is that, without fans, there is no football club. I'm still certain a mass boycott would rid us of him sooner rather than later. Never happening, but it would. It's a sustained boycott which would be the nail In the coffin for Ashley. Lower margins due to lower match day income = lower funds for players = relegation = even less funds = bigger chance of not going up again = even less funds. At this point the club cannot sustain itself off of TV money anymore and he has no choice but to sell or just write off a big loss on the club with no aspirations of ever getting his investment back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzgerald Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Got to say the ch5 documentary shows Mike is a reasonable and effective businessman Just ban this daft mackem c*** Not sure he’s a Mackem, unless there are Mackems from Bedlington. It's Edwards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyne81 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Matchday income is around the £30m mark which is a huge wedge of money. The point that many people miss is that, without fans, there is no football club. I'm still certain a mass boycott would rid us of him sooner rather than later. Never happening, but it would. It's the only option we have and I do think it would work. A mass boycott would reduce revenue, attract bigger negative media coverage, effect the brand of the Premier League with an empty ground for TV coverage and will bring all sorts of unwanted attention towards Ashley that his little bum chum Bishop couldn't cover up. We have the power to drive the cunt out but far too many won't listen to this and continue the cycle of shit we are in. Fuck them and fuck the club. Enjoy the miserable existence while the real supportes of NUFC happily go about their lives away from this shit show. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzgerald Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Matchday income is around the £30m mark which is a huge wedge of money. The point that many people miss is that, without fans, there is no football club. I'm still certain a mass boycott would rid us of him sooner rather than later. Never happening, but it would. It's the only option we have and I do think it would work. A mass boycott would reduce revenue, attract bigger negative media coverage, effect the brand of the Premier League with an empty ground for TV coverage and will bring all sorts of unwanted attention towards Ashley that his little bum chum Bishop couldn't cover up. We have the power to drive the c*** out but far too many won't listen to this and continue the cycle of s*** we are in. f*** them and f*** the club. Enjoy the miserable existence while the real supportes of NUFC happily go about their lives away from this s*** show. Well said. They are why he's here forever. Thick cunts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Matchday income is around the £30m mark which is a huge wedge of money. The point that many people miss is that, without fans, there is no football club. I'm still certain a mass boycott would rid us of him sooner rather than later. Never happening, but it would. It's the only option we have and I do think it would work. A mass boycott would reduce revenue, attract bigger negative media coverage, effect the brand of the Premier League with an empty ground for TV coverage and will bring all sorts of unwanted attention towards Ashley that his little bum chum Bishop couldn't cover up. We have the power to drive the cunt out but far too many won't listen to this and continue the cycle of shit we are in. Fuck them and fuck the club. Enjoy the miserable existence while the real supportes of NUFC happily go about their lives away from this shit show. Yep, also it'd hand the advantage to every visiting team with no fans and a ghost-like atmosphere around the stadium. The fans are probably worth 10 points over the course of a season at least. Meaning Ashley would lose match day income but also probably have to spend more on the squad to achieve his aim of staying 17th, or else actually look for a way out. It's win-win, but it'll never happen sadly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Imagine if a sale comes out of nowhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Surely there is a billionaire out there who not only has the wealth but also the brains to buy us and get it a deal done and over with with this fat cunt. Why pay the pricks asking price and have to put up with lord knows what Rangers style clauses he has stuck into the clubs commercial contracts hobbling your revenue when you can buy a "lesser" club in a better state for cheaper and use the money saved to sink into transfers. Sports ownership is a small community, and word spreads. There is a reason why we have only really had chancers dating back to Barry Moat and people trying to cobble together consortiums seriously interested despite every major American NFL and NBA owner considering the Premier League. That is the most likely scenario. If it was just a case of pay X amount of money and the club is yours, someone would have bought it by now. Obviously he doesn't want to let go of the promotion rights and that makes the club worthless to someone else, other than someone who is willing to be a front like Kenyon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Surely there is a billionaire out there who not only has the wealth but also the brains to buy us and get it a deal done and over with with this fat cunt. Why pay the pricks asking price and have to put up with lord knows what Rangers style clauses he has stuck into the clubs commercial contracts hobbling your revenue when you can buy a "lesser" club in a better state for cheaper and use the money saved to sink into transfers. Sports ownership is a small community, and word spreads. There is a reason why we have only really had chancers dating back to Barry Moat and people trying to cobble together consortiums seriously interested despite every major American NFL and NBA owner considering the Premier League. That is the most likely scenario. If it was just a case of pay X amount of money and the club is yours, someone would have bought it by now. Obviously he doesn't want to let go of the promotion rights and that makes the club worthless to someone else, other than someone who is willing to be a front like Kenyon. Kenyon doesn't have the money. Period. He also wrote a lovely public letter to Mike saying how nice he was to deal with. BZG; well, the last we heard from them they said "please don't blame Ashley, or us if we don't buy the club". Then they disappeared into thin air. He will be a complete cunt to deal with no doubt, but I don't see any evidence Kenyon or BZG were ever serious. I believe Staveley was, but the next 2 sagas seemed and still seem scripted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 https://theovertake.com/~protest/liverpool-vs-the-sun/ This is how it’s done. The power of a united fan base. They got rid of a national institution by staying united. Okay, boycotting the Sun is easier than boycotting your club but even against Gilet and Hicks they took strong action. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 https://theovertake.com/~protest/liverpool-vs-the-sun/ This is how it’s done. The power of a united fan base. They got rid of a national institution by staying united. Okay, boycotting the Sun is easier than boycotting your club but even against Gilet and Hicks they took strong action. Aye but in the main everyone was on their side, we're up against most of the press, pundits and Sky, it's not the same really, ours isn't really a fair fight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 https://theovertake.com/~protest/liverpool-vs-the-sun/ This is how it’s done. The power of a united fan base. They got rid of a national institution by staying united. Okay, boycotting the Sun is easier than boycotting your club but even against Gilet and Hicks they took strong action. Aye but in the main everyone was on their side, we're up against most of the press, pundits and Sky, it's not the same really, ours isn't really a fair fight. What Hillsborough was one of the biggest cover ups of all time. They had no one ☝️ n their side. Not even fellow working class cities with similar experiences. Just look back at some previous posts in this forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 https://theovertake.com/~protest/liverpool-vs-the-sun/ This is how it’s done. The power of a united fan base. They got rid of a national institution by staying united. Okay, boycotting the Sun is easier than boycotting your club but even against Gilet and Hicks they took strong action. Aye but in the main everyone was on their side, we're up against most of the press, pundits and Sky, it's not the same really, ours isn't really a fair fight. What Hillsborough was one of the biggest cover ups of all time. They had no one ☝️ n their side. Not even fellow working class cities with similar experiences. Just look back at some previous posts in this forum. I meant with Gilet and Hicks, when they wanted the club back from them two. Nowt to do with Hillsborough in my point there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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