Yorkie Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Haggling over compo for Steve Bruce after binning Rafa Benitez. This is peak Ashley logic and footballing knowledge. We deserve to go down in flames and I genuinely hope we do. I think staying in the Championship for a few years or lower is what is going to take for Ashley to sell. I know its been said a billion times, but being in the Premier League isn't making it any easier for Ashley to sell the club. Look what has happened to Leicester, Villa and Wolves after years in the Championship or getting relegated to League 1 their fans are much happier now. Remember after the accounts were released after promotion and the club basically said it would be fucked finacially if Newcastle didn't get promoted or stayed a few years in the Championship. Well lets see how the club does under Ashley with no Premier League money to rely on. People will say he will just spend just enough to get out of the Championship or loan the club money to compensate for it, but its much tougher now to get out of the Championship. If he was ever going to sell, it’d be now. He’d get £399-359m. If we go down and stay down, he’ll get a fraction of that. Assuming the TV money levels off (surely it has to?) the club will literally never be more valuable - under his stewardship - than it was a month ago. If he's still here in the second week of August then you really have to worry about whether or not he'll ever go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 His CV is totally unimpressive and he's stunk the place out at least two clubs, but I honestly can't understand why a man like him would even want to come here and work under Ashley. He has a solid enough reputation and has proven himself as a competent manager, plus he's still essentially in his prime at age 58. He's at a big club already, with an opportunity to build something... and he'd trade that for volunteering as Ashley's patsy, with absolutely no role other than to be the face of a pretend football club? Why? If he - or any manager with some kind of pedigree - accepts the job, you'd have to assume they were being paid way beyond what they're likely to get elsewhere. They'd then be, by default, essentially just another Pardew in that sense. Complicit, grateful and rubbish. Ah, life is good. Easy, he’s a boyhood Newcastle fan. This is his dream job, he’s used to working with his hands tied and sub-par players. Working with Ashley won’t be much of a different position that he’s had elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Just the thought of Bruce as manager is so boring and painful. Compared to Rafa it's...? ...never mind. Anyone who knows what kind of formation Bruce usually like to play? Christmas Tree all out attack Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Would Assume Carroll would be on his shopping list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribesman Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Haggling over compo for Steve Bruce after binning Rafa Benitez. This is peak Ashley logic and footballing knowledge. We deserve to go down in flames and I genuinely hope we do. I think staying in the Championship for a few years or lower is what is going to take for Ashley to sell. I know its been said a billion times, but being in the Premier League isn't making it any easier for Ashley to sell the club. Look what has happened to Leicester, Villa and Wolves after years in the Championship or getting relegated to League 1 their fans are much happier now. Remember after the accounts were released after promotion and the club basically said it would be f***ed finacially if Newcastle didn't get promoted or stayed a few years in the Championship. Well lets see how the club does under Ashley with no Premier League money to rely on. People will say he will just spend just enough to get out of the Championship or loan the club money to compensate for it, but its much tougher now to get out of the Championship. If he was ever going to sell, it’d be now. He’d get £399-359m. If we go down and stay down, he’ll get a fraction of that. I have thought that for the last 3 times he has tried to sell the club yet he is still here. The club being in the Premier League attracts more buyers, but just allows Ashley to ask for more unreasonable terms from a position of strength. He won't get anywhere near £350 million again especially if the club stays in the Championship, but he might sell from a position of weakness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Here, how much do you want for Bruce? £4m How about £500k? Are they beyond the monitoring stage yet I wonder? Better slow down, we need snail's pace progress man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny36 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Didnt Bruce leave Hull over lack of signings. Certain he clashed with the owner.. Will get the very same here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Wonder if one of his selling points is that if he accidentally qualifies for Europe he’ll fuck it off double quick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Can’t blame him for taking the job like. Any other mediocre manager would jump at the chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon No9 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Here, how much do you want for Bruce? £4m How about £500k? Are they beyond the monitoring stage yet I wonder? Better slow down, we need snail's pace progress man. Have we even bid for him, or only agreed a price?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 What I can never get my head around is the fact all these managers are multi millionaires. They don't 'need' to work but someone is going to take a role where they know they'll be disliked from the off. Who is so deluded that they think they can win over a hostile fan base at a club which is totally toxic due to the hated owner and thinks they can enhance their reputation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Can’t blame him for taking the job like. Any other mediocre manager would jump at the chance. Come here, we won't let you build a team and you're not allowed to get close to anything vaguely resembling success. Even mediocre managers would be telling them to get fucked unless they were getting at least double their worth in a salary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Can’t blame him for taking the job like. Any other mediocre manager would jump at the chance. Come here, we won't let you build a team and you're not allowed to get close to anything vaguely resembling success. Even mediocre managers would be telling them to get fucked unless they were getting at least double their worth in a salary. He may well be. Chance for him “move home” before retiring on the hefty payout he’ll get when inevitably sacked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Steve Bruce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Can’t blame him for taking the job like. Any other mediocre manager would jump at the chance. Come here, we won't let you build a team and you're not allowed to get close to anything vaguely resembling success. Even mediocre managers would be telling them to get fucked unless they were getting at least double their worth in a salary. I don’t believe that for one second. If I was a shit manager given the chance to manage Newcastle I’d still jump at it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 British managers are never labelled failures anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Think Sheff Wed are under a transfer embargo where they can't buy players for money Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Think they tend to have a lot of self belief too, so Bruce et all will be convinced they can be successful and this is too big an opportunity to pass up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlies Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 https://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-wednesday/latest-owls-news/sheffield-wednesday-yet-to-receive-formal-approach-for-steve-bruce-from-newcastle-united-468788 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Can’t blame him for taking the job like. Any other mediocre manager would jump at the chance. Come here, we won't let you build a team and you're not allowed to get close to anything vaguely resembling success. Even mediocre managers would be telling them to get fucked unless they were getting at least double their worth in a salary. I wouldn't be too surprised if his track record of a few promotions with different teams has been a "factor" in the approach since we're quite obviously going to be relegated this season. Or am I giving our fat spiteful bastard of an owner too much credit for forward planning? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Found this pretty incredible when I saw it earlier this week. In 10 years Sheff Wed have only sold 9 players for actual money: Us getting their manager will be one of their record outgoings Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Telt ye's, still monitoring man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 John Terry, Steve Bruce... that mother ucker really does hate us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Ah. So we're about to put the derisory offer in, then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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