Shearergol Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 If it helps Kaka, I certainly dont think Joelinton is the first player who should be criticised. Carroll, Richie and Shelvey are particularly holding us back at the moment. I think kaka ignores their threads criticising them though as it ruins his argument that we all love big Andy. No, all I ever really said was that it was difficult to really know what we have in Joelinton because he was being used as a target man with balls lumped at him from the back, which was in complete contrast to the way he played previously where he was used to getting the ball into feet, in the numerous different positions he played. This apparently winds people up, along with any observation of him doing anything well by myself or anyone. It's weird It's like you can't talk about the guy's game unless you're saying how shite he is. What on earth is that about? It's not the same with any other player, which is why this strange argument isn't happening in those other threads. People were in the match thread praising Shelvey's goal, because it was a good goal, even though it was a League 2 side. So what? Do the same for Joelinton's goal against Morecambe, and here they all come! iTS A lEAguE 2 siDe THoUgh! hE'S sHIt! Bizarre stuff. I praised his goal against morecambe, as did a number of other posters. Don’t pretend otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 The midfield we have being overrun in every match and basically with hit and hope service to the forward players is it any wonder he’s looked poor? Look at Wilson in the last 2 games, totally anonymous. That’s not his fault. He’s clearly a decent player, just in the same way Joelinton is a decent player. He’s just getting zero help from his team. Until the club can manage to fix the midfield issues, the defence will be under constant pressure and the forwards and going to look isolated and inept. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 If it helps Kaka, I certainly dont think Joelinton is the first player who should be criticised. Carroll, Richie and Shelvey are particularly holding us back at the moment. I think kaka ignores their threads criticising them though as it ruins his argument that we all love big Andy. No, all I ever really said was that it was difficult to really know what we have in Joelinton because he was being used as a target man with balls lumped at him from the back, which was in complete contrast to the way he played previously where he was used to getting the ball into feet, in the numerous different positions he played. This apparently winds people up, along with any observation of him doing anything well by myself or anyone. It's weird It's like you can't talk about the guy's game unless you're saying how shite he is. What on earth is that about? It's not the same with any other player, which is why this strange argument isn't happening in those other threads. People were in the match thread praising Shelvey's goal, because it was a good goal, even though it was a League 2 side. So what? Do the same for Joelinton's goal against Morecambe, and here they all come! iTS A lEAguE 2 siDe THoUgh! hE'S sHIt! Bizarre stuff. I praised his goal against morecambe, as did a number of other posters. Don’t pretend otherwise. I'm not saying he should be praised. It's the over reaction whenever anyone says he did well that's weird, and the strange idea that saying he did well means people are saying he's a class player. Everyone can just relax. It's going to be a terrible season under Bruce, and no player is going to do anything of note while he's here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 If it helps Kaka, I certainly dont think Joelinton is the first player who should be criticised. Carroll, Richie and Shelvey are particularly holding us back at the moment. I think kaka ignores their threads criticising them though as it ruins his argument that we all love big Andy. No, all I ever really said was that it was difficult to really know what we have in Joelinton because he was being used as a target man with balls lumped at him from the back, which was in complete contrast to the way he played previously where he was used to getting the ball into feet, in the numerous different positions he played. This apparently winds people up, along with any observation of him doing anything well by myself or anyone. It's weird It's like you can't talk about the guy's game unless you're saying how shite he is. What on earth is that about? It's not the same with any other player, which is why this strange argument isn't happening in those other threads. People were in the match thread praising Shelvey's goal, because it was a good goal, even though it was a League 2 side. So what? Do the same for Joelinton's goal against Morecambe, and here they all come! iTS A lEAguE 2 siDe THoUgh! hE'S sHIt! Bizarre stuff. I praised his goal against morecambe, as did a number of other posters. Don’t pretend otherwise. I'm not saying he should be praised. It's the over reaction whenever anyone says he did well that's weird, and the strange idea that saying he did well means people are saying he's a class player. Everyone can just relax. It's going to be a terrible season under Bruce, and no player is going to do anything of note while he's here. I thought he did ok the last two games. Are you happy with that? Because I think its you that overreacts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 You still don't get it. I don't care if you think he's trash. If people don't agree with that just don't let it wind you up. It's actually you lot that jump on anyone that disagrees with you, just scroll through this very thread or any match thread. Your lot were jumping down Lenny's throat just a page back for goodness sake Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 You still don't get it. I don't care if you think he's trash. If people don't agree with that just don't let it wind you up. It's actually you lot that jump on anyone that disagrees with you, just scroll through this very thread or any match thread. Your lot were jumping down Lenny's throat just a page back for goodness sake "Your lot"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Going to bag a brace tonight to shut you all up. #teamkaka Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Going to bag a brace tonight to shut you all up. #teamkaka Assume you mean a neck brace after he's spent another 90 mins watching the ball being belted towards him at a great height. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Another good 45 minutes from Joelinton. Worked really well with ASM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Going to bag a brace tonight to shut you all up. #teamkaka Assume you mean a neck brace after he's spent another 90 mins watching the ball being belted towards him at a great height. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 getting a pat on the back for not shitting the bed. Bless Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED209 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Did alright I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 He has a low bar these days given how poor he is in the final third. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 I thought he did really well tonight, held up the ball nicely and created some chances, still looks nowhere near like scoring a goal but maybe now that we don't have to count on him for that he can provide us with something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 I thought he did really well tonight, held up the ball nicely and created some chances, still looks nowhere near like scoring a goal but maybe now that we don't have to count on him for that he can provide us with something. Would have worked even better with another attacking threat on the right, as Hendrick doesn't rally get forward down that side. Really linked play well and allowed for far better possession, and had some very nice combination play with the guys on the left side. Nice game to build on. Good to see him finally get a full game in this role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Had a really good game today, helped in a lot of attacks and generally getting the ball forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh74 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Like a new signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Wouldn’t go as far as saying he had a good game like, but he was definitely better. Still looked completely unable to deliver goals/assists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 He shows some good touches etc, but he still doesn't get into the position or have an effect on the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Improving from incredibly low standards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 still needs to show more urgency and desire to get into the box but slowly improving his general play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAK Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Wouldn’t go as far as saying he had a good game like, but he was definitely better. Still looked completely unable to deliver goals/assists. Through ball for Fraser to run on to where he tried to chip Pope? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 He's a better footballer than quite a lot of our squad. We look a better side when he's playing because of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Do we? The alternatives to him could be Fraser or Almiron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 His all around play has been much improved so far this season however he still seems to mostly fall apart when he's in the final third, be it positionally or making a pass. There were one or two examples in the game yesterday. Hopefully it'll improve as his confidence continues to grow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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