Mahoneys Tache Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Is he the new Ketsbaia? Good feet, good pace, limited football brain? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Mahoneyâs tache said: Is he the new Ketsbaia? Good feet, good pace, limited football brain? No. He's a lot better than Ketsbaia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Biggsbond14 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 13 minutes ago, Mr Raspberry Jam said: No. He's a lot better than Ketsbaia. So why is he so rubbish as a team player? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, Biggsbond14 said: So why is he so rubbish as a team player? He's far from the finished article but stupid to compare him to Ketsbaia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mahoneys Tache Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Ketsbaia 78 apps, 8 goals. st Max 71 app, 11 goals. pretty similar return. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie1892 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 sick of him not doing the basics right, like passing to a teammate for example instead of trying to take on another defender and losing the ball id bench him against leeds and play fraser left, miggy right - cant be any worse and at least our left back would have someone like fraser running is arse off to get back and help Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 The guy is totally frustrating but he’s also our only player that can create something from nothing. In a team with almost zero attacking flair and creativity it would be madness to bench/drop him. As an opposing manager I would be happy if he wasn’t included. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie1892 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, ManDoon said: He scored the only goal that nearly won us the game? wild to think of dropping him, But wasted possession or lost possession countless other times allowing Watford to continuously counter attack and put us in danger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 (edited) Definitely should be dropped and sold imo. I want to see a team of 11 plodders week in week out. Edited January 17, 2022 by r0cafella Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 16 minutes ago, Mahoneyâs tache said: Ketsbaia 78 apps, 8 goals. st Max 71 app, 11 goals. pretty similar return. 14 goals for HBA as well in 86 apps. I wouldn't say he was another Ketsbaia either regardless of the stats. Both ASM & HBA were/are exceptionally talented footballers who were managed by dinosaurs during their time at NUFC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 (edited) He was poor minus the goal on Saturday but you don't drop him at all with our current squad. Now if we were to have genuine options, then having him as an option from the bench might be good at times. Edited January 17, 2022 by neesy111 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big River Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Just now, Mr Raspberry Jam said: 14 goals for HBA as well in 86 apps. I wouldn't say he was another Ketsbaia either regardless of the stats. Both ASM & HBA were/are exceptionally talented footballers who were managed by dinosaurs during their time at NUFC. Sorry like, but ASM shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as Hatem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Just now, HUGZ said: Sorry like, but ASM shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as Hatem. I agree HBA was a lot better than ASM but that's most definitely not the point I was trying to make. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillingtonMag Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 (edited) Cant believe people are even suggesting dropping him, he's probably the only player in the squad who can create something out of nothing. He's far from perfect and wouldn't be against replacing him in the long term but not at the minute. Who we gonna play instead or him anyways? Murphy or Almiron? Edited January 17, 2022 by WillingtonMag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 1 minute ago, WillingtonMag said: Cant believe people are even suggesting dropping him, he's probably the only player in the squad who can create something out of nothing. He's far from perfect and wouldn't be against replacing him in the long term but not at the minute. Who we gonna play instead or him anyways? Murphy or Almiron? I think if we weren't in a relegation fight and in a position of comfort he'd most likely be taken out of the XI. We're most likely sticking with him as he can produce something out of nothing, even when having a poor game - like he did at the weekend. And as you were getting at, the alternatives are shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Hmm. Think he looks poor a lot of the time because teams know we have literally no other outlet and can just double or even treble up on him. His end product is very hit and miss but he's capable of creating chances out of nothing, which we're completely reliant on at the moment. I'd be very hesitant to drop him, and that's not even taking into account how dire the alternative options are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 As it stands he's our best and almost only hope of creating anything. Fraser actually had a decent game the other day but that just meant he kept the ball when he had it generally and flung in a few crosses. There was nothing particularly threatening about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 I think we have to play him. He'd look better with a full back in the same postcode and other options around him but its rarely the case. He offers a geniune threat and teams are terrified of him. The obvious complaint is that he should not be dribbling near the halfway line. We saw what that does against West Ham, and it was our biggest scare in the first half on Saturday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, triggs said: As it stands he's our best and almost only hope of creating anything. Fraser actually had a decent game the other day but that just meant he kept the ball when he had it generally and flung in a few crosses. There was nothing particularly threatening about it. Fraser has lost a yard of pace massively from when he was at Bournemouth it looks like to me and he was never a beat a man with a trick type player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 I know XG will say it was a hard chance, but Longstaff for example should at least be testing the keeper with the one ASM set him up with in the first half. There's another one in the second half where he breaks in behind them and no one's bothered to try get in the box. He's a scapegoat right now, simple as. If he doesn't win us every game people just complain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 5 minutes ago, Stottie said: I think we have to play him. He'd look better with a full back in the same postcode and other options around him but its rarely the case. He offers a geniune threat and teams are terrified of him. The obvious complaint is that he should not be dribbling near the halfway line. We saw what that does against West Ham, and it was our biggest scare in the first half on Saturday. I do think it's also notable just on your first point about full backs being terrified that neither of the right backs Watford had got forward much while he was on the pitch but then Femenia put the cross in for the goal basically straight away after he went off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Any time we have any sort of player with immense mercurial talent, going back to Ginola (and possibly beyond) there's a weird subsection of our support that insists they don't work hard enough and should be bombed out in favour of someone who'll track back a bit. Spent far too much of my youth arguing with boring arseholes who wanted Laurent Robert binned off in favour of a mythical player who would definitely get as many goals and assists but also work like a dog at all times and be easily affordable for Newcastle United. In conclusion, yes we should definitely bench our best player and rely on Ryan Fraser instead. FFS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 I don’t get why people insist in football you are either one or another with opinions. You either want ASM carried around SJP on a throne or ostracised to the U23s. You either thought the takeover definitely would happen, or it never will in a million years. You either support Howe or want him sacked after 10 games. There is the ability to sort of be in the middle. ASM is our most creative player and the only one at times who looks like making something happen. But he also has a number of significant flaws that are often to the detriment to the team. He’ll either win us the game or contribute so poorly that he’s a big part of the reason why we don’t win. I think he’s brilliant but I’m also incredibly annoyed watching him run down dead ends or lose the ball on the halfway line, ignoring a team mate in space, leading to an opposition chance. For every moment of magic, there is also a moment where he prevents us from getting a chance or concedes possession to the opposition. That can be very dangerous for a team fighting relegation. Personally I think he needs to be managed better and our team set up in a way that will benefit him rather than hinder him and us as a collective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Should sign Blas or Cantwell if the rumours are true. We so desperately need an option outside ASM, and through the middle and on the other flank. Will also free up more space for ASM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 FWIW I think ASM has the potential to adapt his game still, he’s fairly young. He spent his newcastle career being specifically told to do everything on his own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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