Happinesstan Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 He's invaluable in a set-up like Bruce's and it wouldn't be that crazy to say he alone was responsible for every point gained under that set-up. It would be incorrect, obviously, but it wouldn't be crazy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, Pata said: I wasn't saying how important his dribbling is to our scoring, just showed how there's almost no threat from our other wing. Funnily enough Leeds should've scored score almost 9 goals more than they have and should have conceded almost 10 less goals than they have according to xG. What's our xG say? I get what you are saying, I'm just saying that we could maybe sacrifice some of those successful dribbles for a more collective effort, sometimes. I know Murphy and Fraser don't pull up any trees when they're on the pitch with ASM but in the period that we relied upon them we were probably at our best, collectively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, Happinesstan said: He's invaluable in a set-up like Bruce's and it wouldn't be that crazy to say he alone was responsible for every point gained under that set-up. It would be incorrect, obviously, but it wouldn't be crazy. Yeah, absolutely. I just believe that Howe too has use for a player like ASM and hopefully he can improve his weaknesses, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, Happinesstan said: What's our xG say? I get what you are saying, I'm just saying that we could maybe sacrifice some of those successful dribbles for a more collective effort, sometimes. I know Murphy and Fraser don't pull up any trees when they're on the pitch with ASM but in the period that we relied upon them we were probably at our best, collectively. Should have scored 2.6 goals less and conceded 2 more. https://understat.com/league/EPL This site has so much xG stuff for all the big leagues and it's free. Also has stats for individual players with ton of filters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Pata said: Yeah, absolutely. I just believe that Howe too has use for a player like ASM and hopefully he can improve his weaknesses, I hope so. I do think a lot is down to how much Maxi wants it. Trouble is, I think, he has so much confidence in his ability to beat his man, and rightly so, that he will most often make that decision. Actually, I think I'm mistaken. We know how much he wants it. He wants it. He doesn't revert to his strongest attribute out of laziness or lack of teamwork he does it because he wants to succeed, so much. Get quality around him and he'll be confident in his other options. Maybe. We've seen how he plays when Wilson is in the team. Edited April 5, 2022 by Happinesstan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted April 5, 2022 Share Posted April 5, 2022 I think if Son had been with us for over two years he wouldn't have bothered with that cross on Sunday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Happinesstan Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 (edited) Thinking about this a bit further. I know when he comes on as a sub he seems less effective than when he starts, But if we're winning the game and don't need him to be the matchwinner, he can be very effective at keeping the ball from the opposition, dragging us up the pitch and winning free-kicks. Like an over-qualified Gutierrez. Edited April 7, 2022 by Happinesstan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 5 hours ago, Happinesstan said: Thinking about this a bit further. I know when he comes on as a sub he seems less effective than when he starts, But if we're winning the game and don't need him to be the matchwinner, he can be very effective at keeping the ball from the opposition, dragging us up the pitch and winning free-kicks. Like an over-qualified Gutierrez. Its a right head scratcher. I can't work out whether I want him to start tomorrow or come off the bench. Weirdly I don't like the idea of bringing him on or off if were losing the game. There's really nothing to bring on but him though in that case. Feel or fear we'd be more likely to go behind with him but unlikely to come from behind without him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 He always looks rubbish when he comes off the bench. Start him and let him get into his groove. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 Needs a big performance, starting tonight would be canny. Under Howe he's been utter garbage for most part. We all feared this would happen with a more disciplined manager in control. I've still got loads of time for him. The only Bright spark in the last couple of seasons, but he needs to get back in his groove and start putting out performances because everyone is plying for their futures right now, not just him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpinho Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 Has he started a game with Bruno yet, or would tonight be the first time? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 He started Bruno away against Chelsea and Everton I think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 Our current position doesn't leave a lot of room for 'flair' players. Maxi is incredible on his day but one thing he isn't is a fighter and we need 11 fighters until we are safe. We could do a lot worse than playing Fraser on the left and Ritchie on the right. He has no pace but he can whip crosses in and always gives 100%. It would also shore up the right and the left side of our defence Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 Ritchie....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, loki679 said: Ritchie....... Almost certainly a wind up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 Why not stop there, recall Hendrick and ship either Joelinton or Bruno out the side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 Need to go back to the famed British pashun basics. None of those namby pamby forrins with their tricks and twirls. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 This place man. Ritchie was an absolute liability in every game he played. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 34 minutes ago, jackyboy said: Our current position doesn't leave a lot of room for 'flair' players. Maxi is incredible on his day but one thing he isn't is a fighter and we need 11 fighters until we are safe. We could do a lot worse than playing Fraser on the left and Ritchie on the right. He has no pace but he can whip crosses in and always gives 100%. It would also shore up the right and the left side of our defence Playing Ritchie is literally the worst suggestion I’ve ever heard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 Sticking Willock out wide would be a better option than Ritchie. Opens the midfield for Bruno as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 Think we’ll see Allan on the scoresheet tonight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 1 hour ago, neesy111 said: This place man. Ritchie was an absolute liability in every game he played. I bet less than half a per cent of all people on here would advocate starting Ritchie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Yorkie said: I bet less than half a per cent of all people on here would advocate starting Ritchie. Sounds like a new poll is needed just to be sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 Drop ASM for Ritchie, ffs. Was that posted by Ritchie's mum? Gotta be the only person who'd think that's sensible and even she could probably be talked round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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