STM Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Find it all a bit silly. It’s disgusting how far they push the Human Rights argument to blockers this takeover. Good thing for Man Utd to just slip that sponsor deal through. But of course, nobody gives them the stick... or the Man City owners for that sake. All other rich owners are alllll nice guys. Whataboutery. The most annoying word in the World atm. You are just virtue signalling mate. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 It’s worth noting that this company have already wrote the Premier League regarding our takeover. The Premier League have not responded. I.E. They are not interested in their view. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penn Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 We are in the process of being taken over by a Saudi company, not government. And the crown prince of Saudi Arabia is chairman of that 'company'. It's pretty clear this deal is going one way now and it ain't towards completion... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 If PIF were buying Man United or Liverpool, would the reaction be the same, or much worse? Be the saviours of football if they bought Man Utd. The red carpet would be rolled out. There would be an acknowledgement that sport and politics are separate issues. Aye, it would be full of articles like this praising them: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/11/04/manchester-united-fans-may-want-rid-club-glazers-sportswashing/ To be owned by the Saudis would be enough for any match-going United follower to surrender their season ticket. To see the club in which they have made such a huge emotional investment used as a vehicle for self-promotion by the most brutally repressive regime on earth is beyond revolting. Yes, it might indeed mean they could sign Lionel Messi. But no-one with a conscience could cheerfully support the club were the Saudis to take up residence in the Old Trafford board room. The red carpet for sure. Can we please cease with this cretinous paranoid nonsense? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 They have a good point regards the test like. The Sheffield United owner will have to do exactly as he's told if he wants to keep his fortunes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnie Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 I'm pleased we have had a relatively quiet day. No takeover news, no amnesty, no Bein sports, I think we all needed that. We needed a cool down. Lasted long. So they're trying to argue the angle that because Sheffield United are owned by a Saudi prince that will give the PIF direct control over Sheffield United and Newcastle. Then they talk about how Newcastle's takeover should also be disqualified on the grounds of "protecting the image of the game" from human rights abuses because it would be effectively owned by the leader of Saudi Arabia. But hold on, they've just claimed that Sheffield United is effectively controlled by the leader of Saudi Arabia. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 If PIF were buying Man United or Liverpool, would the reaction be the same, or much worse? Yes, it’s just we are reading about it, no others fans around the country really give a fuck, we are in this takeover bubble and see everything . Let’s all relax. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhoywhonder Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 A Labour government would block this sale, the Tories .......................no fuckin chance Oh yeah, I vaguely remember when Labour actually did stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marki Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 We are in the process of being taken over by a Saudi company, not government. And the crown prince of Saudi Arabia is chairman of that 'company'. It's pretty clear this deal is going one way now and it ain't towards completion... Is this cunt on the wind up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon No9 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Where were Amnesty when the takeover of other clubs were ongoing? Chelsea: How did Abramovitch get his money? Stepped on a few, huh? Man City: First Shinavatra! Then Abu Dhabi, how does construction sites work in that country? Sheffield United: Saudis aswell, if they get past so should we. Cardiff: Vincent Tan was mad, changed colours and a lot of weird stuff! Don't know about Wolves, Leicester, Arsenal, etc, etc, but if you dig a bit you would probably find something on most of the lot. I would say a fit and proper test should be something the owners of every club should be going through every 3 or 5 years so we don't get owners like Ashley, Glaziers, etc, who doesn't act for their clubs best interest! Owners who take the clubs money and put them in their own pockets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penn Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 We are in the process of being taken over by a Saudi company, not government. And the crown prince of Saudi Arabia is chairman of that 'company'. It's pretty clear this deal is going one way now and it ain't towards completion... Is this cunt on the wind up No, Stifler genuinely believes the stuff he comes out with. But knock the insults on the head all the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 If PIF were buying Man United or Liverpool, would the reaction be the same, or much worse? Be the saviours of football if they bought Man Utd. The red carpet would be rolled out. There would be an acknowledgement that sport and politics are separate issues. Aye, it would be full of articles like this praising them: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/11/04/manchester-united-fans-may-want-rid-club-glazers-sportswashing/ To be owned by the Saudis would be enough for any match-going United follower to surrender their season ticket. To see the club in which they have made such a huge emotional investment used as a vehicle for self-promotion by the most brutally repressive regime on earth is beyond revolting. Yes, it might indeed mean they could sign Lionel Messi. But no-one with a conscience could cheerfully support the club were the Saudis to take up residence in the Old Trafford board room. The red carpet for sure. Can we please cease with this cretinous paranoid nonsense? Why? Because you don’t agree with it? It is probably nonsense, but it is what some people feel and they have every right to say their piece just as the people dead against the takeover are constantly vocal about their feelings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 ”When Ashley finally sells we won’t hear about it until it’s done and dusted” That went well... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marki Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 We are in the process of being taken over by a Saudi company, not government. And the crown prince of Saudi Arabia is chairman of that 'company'. It's pretty clear this deal is going one way now and it ain't towards completion... Is this c*** on the wind up every time i see u post its always negative ..go back to rtg No, Stifler genuinely believes the stuff he comes out with. But knock the insults on the head all the same. every time i see u post its always negative ..go back to rtg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-7036609/Family-Osama-bin-Laden-helped-finance-Sheffield-United-details-3m-loan-revealed.html Max-whataboutery Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Amnesty and similar groups kicked up a big fuss when Shinawatra bought Man City, I remember it well. Probably the most similar thing we've seen to this actually, much moreso than the subsequent takeover. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2007/jul/31/newsstory.manchestercity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnie Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 We are in the process of being taken over by a Saudi company, not government. And the crown prince of Saudi Arabia is chairman of that 'company'. It's pretty clear this deal is going one way now and it ain't towards completion... Is this c*** on the wind up Yes, he always posts the same stuff, sad but he seems to get off on it. Boring for everyone else though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 If PIF were buying Man United or Liverpool, would the reaction be the same, or much worse? Be the saviours of football if they bought Man Utd. The red carpet would be rolled out. There would be an acknowledgement that sport and politics are separate issues. Aye, it would be full of articles like this praising them: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/11/04/manchester-united-fans-may-want-rid-club-glazers-sportswashing/ To be owned by the Saudis would be enough for any match-going United follower to surrender their season ticket. To see the club in which they have made such a huge emotional investment used as a vehicle for self-promotion by the most brutally repressive regime on earth is beyond revolting. Yes, it might indeed mean they could sign Lionel Messi. But no-one with a conscience could cheerfully support the club were the Saudis to take up residence in the Old Trafford board room. The red carpet for sure. Can we please cease with this cretinous paranoid nonsense? Why? Because you don’t agree with it? It is probably nonsense, but it is what some people feel and they have every right to say their piece just as the people dead against the takeover are constantly vocal about their feelings. To everyone else, shit like "Amnesty just hate Newcastle United, they wouldn't be doing it if it were Man United" just makes us look a bunch of genuinely demented lunatics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 this forum man. Depths of despair when somebody on twitter says that some NGO that nobody's heard of is having its say to the heights of elation when in two hours somebody else will point out that it doesn't matter. The FA have already fucked off Amnesty bloody International, and the government have already said they won't intervene. The Saudis know they're not flavour of the month in the west and are unlikely to be surprised at any of the negative stuff coming up, surely not enough to think, 'hang on, we've totally misjudged what folk thought of us, we'd best get out of this'. Might happen, might not. People have to stop getting so faint every time something appears on twitter, though, or they might not make it to the end of the saga to find out Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Actually I'm not 100% on the government not intervening, I just read that on here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Actually I'm not 100% on the government not intervening, I just read that on here Aye Culture Secretary said so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 cheers, didn't bother to look it up after I read it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbers Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 We are in the process of being taken over by a Saudi company, not government. And the crown prince of Saudi Arabia is chairman of that 'company'. It's pretty clear this deal is going one way now and it ain't towards completion... Is this cunt on the wind up Read through his posting history man, clearly a wum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 If PIF were buying Man United or Liverpool, would the reaction be the same, or much worse? Be the saviours of football if they bought Man Utd. The red carpet would be rolled out. There would be an acknowledgement that sport and politics are separate issues. Aye, it would be full of articles like this praising them: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2019/11/04/manchester-united-fans-may-want-rid-club-glazers-sportswashing/ To be owned by the Saudis would be enough for any match-going United follower to surrender their season ticket. To see the club in which they have made such a huge emotional investment used as a vehicle for self-promotion by the most brutally repressive regime on earth is beyond revolting. Yes, it might indeed mean they could sign Lionel Messi. But no-one with a conscience could cheerfully support the club were the Saudis to take up residence in the Old Trafford board room. The red carpet for sure. Can we please cease with this cretinous paranoid nonsense? Why? Because you don’t agree with it? It is probably nonsense, but it is what some people feel and they have every right to say their piece just as the people dead against the takeover are constantly vocal about their feelings. To everyone else, s*** like "Amnesty just hate Newcastle United, they wouldn't be doing it if it were Man United" just makes us look a bunch of genuinely demented lunatics. You have washed your hands of it all though, you said you have for years, so why let it bother you if you are not really invested in it. Sounds like you do care really. The thing is, people are just ranting for the sake of ranting (on both sides) because of the situation it is. Let people just have their rants without shouting them down. It comes across as just pure frustration more than rational thinking and at the end of the day, why give a fuck what other people think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon No9 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Owning Newcastle United and making us a big club with ambition, and perhaps build and provide jobs in the city is not any problem with theese new owners. Hard to think they will stop human rights or kill people in England. The problem they have is in Saudi Arabia and have nothing to do with Newcastle United. Ashley did alot worse for Newcastle and the Premier League, FA, Amnisty, beIN sport or the pope didn't say a word about that! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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