OCK Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 He feels super underrated, and I never understand the people who think he's played poorly because he hasn't scored yet. He leads the line way more effectively than Isak, especially hold up play and starting the press. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) Wish he'd have been able to finish with a first touch for his goal. We'd have gone from Pope saving on the line to scoring at the other end in seconds and all one touch with no hopeful punts involved. Still possibly our goal of the season so far like and there are some contenders. Edited October 23, 2023 by madras Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Optimistic Nut said: Aye that's true. Cole getting the number he did in general without penalties is unreal. Malcolm Allen and Peter Beardsley scored 9 pens that 93/4 season, even if he was a poor pen taker you'd think he'd score 5-6, could have had 40 league goals alone. Aye. Without penalties Cole would be 3rd all-time PL top scorers (186), above Rooney behind Kane and Shearer (204). Much closer to Shearer without pens. Les Ferdinand would be 5th. Above Fowler, Henry, Owen and Lampard. Putting in perspective how good both Cole and Ferdinand were. Edit: Cole didn't make his PL debut until close to his 22nd birthday too. Edited October 23, 2023 by The College Dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 29 minutes ago, OCK said: He feels super underrated, and I never understand the people who think he's played poorly because he hasn't scored yet. He leads the line way more effectively than Isak, especially hold up play and starting the press. He is better between the posts and back to goal, for sure. Not sure he is 'way more' effective than Isak in leading the line, though. They are different types of players and it is good having them as options. As they're both starting quality players and top level strikers in the league. Just a shame we don't get to see them on the pitch too often together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 WIlson is definitely better at pressing. His nous for when to trigger is really, really good, and he properly commits to it when he does it. Isak can be great at it but can also be a bit lacklustre/seems to gas out easier. I think it's fair to say Wilson is better at 'traditional' hold up play too but he's not a better link man when it's about balls into feet, imo, he's levels off Isak when it comes to that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Gallowgate Toon said: WIlson is definitely better at pressing. His nous for when to trigger is really, really good, and he properly commits to it when he does it. Isak can be great at it but can also be a bit lacklustre/seems to gas out easier. I think it's fair to say Wilson is better at 'traditional' hold up play too but he's not a better link man when it's about balls into feet, imo, he's levels off Isak when it comes to that. Aye Isak could learn a lot from Wilson. And can develop further physically. When he does. He's going to be unbelievable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancrate1892 Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 3 hours ago, Optimistic Nut said: Aye that's true. Cole getting the number he did in general without penalties is unreal. Malcolm Allen and Peter Beardsley scored 9 pens that 93/4 season, even if he was a poor pen taker you'd think he'd score 5-6, could have had 40 league goals alone. I still have nightmares of the Andy cole penalty at Coventry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 9 minutes ago, Pancrate1892 said: I still have nightmares of the Andy cole penalty at Coventry Blame my wife. The only game she's been to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Gallowgate Toon said: WIlson is definitely better at pressing. His nous for when to trigger is really, really good, and he properly commits to it when he does it. Isak can be great at it but can also be a bit lacklustre/seems to gas out easier. I think it's fair to say Wilson is better at 'traditional' hold up play too but he's not a better link man when it's about balls into feet, imo, he's levels off Isak when it comes to that. Yeah noticed Isak's first touch after coming on at the weekend was a magnificent touch and turn all in one motion after receiving a ball drilled into him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Didn't really want him playing in this game tbh, felt it was perfect for Isak, but he did well enough in the circumstances. He didn't do much wrong with the chances he had, their keeper was fantastic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Ya he 100% needs to be scoring that tho. So don’t agree. Love him to bits of course but that needs left peg high not contorted right peg. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
500bhp Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 He's a fantastic finisher but his first touch has been poor recently. Never gets it under control properly unlike Isaak. Looks a bit slower this season as well. He's a perfect impact sub for the last 20 minutes if we can get Isaak fit for a decent run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Concerned about him possibly haven't to play all games for the next few weeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubteam Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, 500bhp said: He's a fantastic finisher but his first touch has been poor recently. Never gets it under control properly unlike Isaak. Looks a bit slower this season as well. He's a perfect impact sub for the last 20 minutes if we can get Isaak fit for a decent run. Don't think conditions helped tonight, the ball really fizzed across the surface, I think it made it difficult to judge the pace of the ball. You could tell by the amount of times the ball went out of play when it was passed out wide. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 17 minutes ago, Kanji said: Ya he 100% needs to be scoring that tho. So don’t agree. Love him to bits of course but that needs left peg high not contorted right peg. I'll have to watch it again but looked like it came at him quite quickly in a tight space so he didn't have that much time to decide how to place his leg. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 He’s the poacher and that’s the poacher chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 20 minutes ago, madras said: Concerned about him possibly haven't to play all games for the next few weeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) My biggest groan of the match came when (I think it was Tonali) played a through ball to him that was inch perfect and it just didn’t stick. Isak does something with that. That’s the difference, as much as I love wor Callum. Edited October 25, 2023 by cubaricho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timnufc22 Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 Isak’s hold up play is better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 On 23/10/2023 at 05:23, OCK said: He feels super underrated, and I never understand the people who think he's played poorly because he hasn't scored yet. He leads the line way more effectively than Isak, especially hold up play and starting the press. Don’t agree with this mind. Neither of them play well in isolation but which strikers do in 2023? Didier Drogba is the only PL striker I can think of that genuinely looked a massive and consistent threat when receiving the ball nowhere near a teammate. Wilson is a poacher as Kanji says. He doesn’t contribute to build up play other than being there to put pressure on and do the basics right. Isak is an incredible footballer that will score as many as Wilson given the same chances in addition to working the channels and coming short to greater effect. All about getting a no.10 type midfielder and RW to both take the pressing strain off him and get the best out of his ludicrous talent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 25, 2023 Share Posted October 25, 2023 3 minutes ago, cubaricho said: My biggest groan of the match came when (I think it was Tonali) played a through ball to him that was inch perfect and it just didn’t stick. Isak does something with that. That’s the difference, as much as I love wor Callum. 100% brother. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 According to Fbref, 99 strikers out of 100 attempt more passes per 90 minutes than Callum Wilson. Being below average is one thing, but in the bottom 1% is something else, almost a thing of beauty. Ollie Watkins and Haarland are similar, so it is not a fatal flaw. It just means cliches about "bringing others into play" are not applicable. If you want to see that, watch Ivan Toney. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 Yesterday was a bit of a missed opportunity for him on reflection. A few moments where he was put through, and he couldn't do anything with it, or show anything special. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, madras said: Concerned about him possibly haven't to play all games for the next few weeks. "Serhou Guirassy has a release clause into his contract for just €??.??" Fabrizio Romano posted this. Could be something to look at in january, we kind of need another striker due to injury problems and also Wilson getting older. Edited October 26, 2023 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted October 26, 2023 Share Posted October 26, 2023 Relying on Wilson to stay fit while playing every 3 or 4 days for the next few weeks. To say I'm concerned is an understatement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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