GWN Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Don't understand players who choose us at the moment, as we have zero ambition. It can't be about wages as they'll get those elsewhere. Baffling as to why they join a team who's sole aim is mediocrity. We are still a big draw because of the zombies until they turn against them . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Dare I say it but are we making these very un-Ashley signings which will have no resale value because Ashley is confident he won't be here in a year or two? I'd see it as more of an insurance policy similar to Andy Carroll. £20m is a lot more expensive obviously, but goals are worth their weight in gold if they keep you in the Premier. Ashley is probably belatedly realising what a twat he was for not paying £16m for Rondon. How much does a goal weigh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Amazing how much money Ashley has given to 2 utter shite managers like McClaren and Bruce and then was tightfisted cunt with Benitez. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Dare I say it but are we making these very un-Ashley signings which will have no resale value because Ashley is confident he won't be here in a year or two? It's an absolutely massive change in tack, that's for sure. It's either for the reason you've stated or simply because he has categorically lost interest altogether and couldn't give a solitary fuck any more. Doubt it's anything to do with the Joelinton thing; it's not as if that transfer was based on footballing motives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Amazing how much money Ashley has given to 2 utter shite managers like McClaren and Bruce and then was tightfisted cunt with Benitez. The club was still paying for its relegation, if rafa was here now (minus the history between both) he’d have the same money available. I do think policy has changed though, maybe Rafas want for established players has been taken on board but Ashley was too stubborn to change while he was here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Ashley will be furious that Joelinton has now cost £60 million. And to think that Rafa advised he was only worth 10. The mismanagement of this club has been criminal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Amazing how much money Ashley has given to 2 utter shite managers like McClaren and Bruce and then was tightfisted cunt with Benitez. Money spent on attackers: Under Benitez: £49m on 7 players. Under Bruce: £80m on 4 players. Farcical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Amazing how much money Ashley has given to 2 utter shite managers like McClaren and Bruce and then was tightfisted cunt with Benitez. The club was still paying for its relegation, if rafa was here now (minus the history between both) he’d have the same money available. I do think policy has changed though, maybe Rafas want for established players has been taken on board but Ashley was too stubborn to change while he was here. Nah, It's all out of spite, he didn't like being called out by Rafa. Rafa would have been sacked if he hadn't been so popular with the fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Dare I say it but are we making these very un-Ashley signings which will have no resale value because Ashley is confident he won't be here in a year or two? It's an absolutely massive change in tack, that's for sure. It's either for the reason you've stated or simply because he has categorically lost interest altogether and couldn't give a solitary fuck any more. Doubt it's anything to do with the Joelinton thing; it's not as if that transfer was based on footballing motives. You're watching too many Steve Bruce pressers. Nah, in seriousness, I think Ashley not giving a fuck anymore still wouldn't mean he just allows Bruce and the Steve Mensa Meeting to have carte blanche. It's a business asset of his and he'll want it ran lean and efficient and making money where possible. I'm hoping he's ratifying these signings as they'll likely keep us up, pootling along in lower mid table another year, despite the best efforts of the management team, whilst he can get the thing sold. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Amazing how much money Ashley has given to 2 utter shite managers like McClaren and Bruce and then was tightfisted cunt with Benitez. The club was still paying for its relegation, if rafa was here now (minus the history between both) he’d have the same money available. I do think policy has changed though, maybe Rafas want for established players has been taken on board but Ashley was too stubborn to change while he was here. Hi Lee. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Dare I say it but are we making these very un-Ashley signings which will have no resale value because Ashley is confident he won't be here in a year or two? It's an absolutely massive change in tack, that's for sure. It's either for the reason you've stated or simply because he has categorically lost interest altogether and couldn't give a solitary fuck any more. Doubt it's anything to do with the Joelinton thing; it's not as if that transfer was based on footballing motives. You're watching too many Steve Bruce pressers. Nah, in seriousness, I think Ashley not giving a fuck anymore still wouldn't mean he just allows Bruce and the Steve Mensa Meeting to have carte blanche. It's a business asset of his and he'll want it ran lean and efficient and making money where possible. I'm hoping he's ratifying these signings as they'll likely keep us up, pootling along in lower mid table another year, despite the best efforts of the management team, whilst he can get the thing sold. I watched one last season, so yes, you're right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Dare I say it but are we making these very un-Ashley signings which will have no resale value because Ashley is confident he won't be here in a year or two? It's an absolutely massive change in tack, that's for sure. It's either for the reason you've stated or simply because he has categorically lost interest altogether and couldn't give a solitary fuck any more. Doubt it's anything to do with the Joelinton thing; it's not as if that transfer was based on footballing motives. You're watching too many Steve Bruce pressers. Nah, in seriousness, I think Ashley not giving a fuck anymore still wouldn't mean he just allows Bruce and the Steve Mensa Meeting to have carte blanche. It's a business asset of his and he'll want it ran lean and efficient and making money where possible. I'm hoping he's ratifying these signings as they'll likely keep us up, pootling along in lower mid table another year, despite the best efforts of the management team, whilst he can get the thing sold. I watched one last season, so yes, you're right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 When was the last time we beat a club to signing a player when it was as public as this one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny36 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Emre, Parker, Duff when they were wanted by Everton or Spurs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 At least he knows how to run towards the goal and position himself with purpose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Emre, Parker, Duff when they were wanted by Everton or Spurs? Good shout. I can’t think of any more recent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 I think it’s clear that Ashley can’t gamble with PL safety this time when there’s 300m riding on it. He wants to sell as soon as possible so needs to keep the club in the best shop window ?♂️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Don't understand players who choose us at the moment, as we have zero ambition. It can't be about wages as they'll get those elsewhere. Baffling as to why they join a team who's sole aim is mediocrity. We are still a big draw because of the zombies until they turn against them . He's 28 and has played for small clubs all his life, saying you have played for Newcastle still counts for something it seems. One of the reasons why the big clubs lobbied the PL to stop the PIF takeover, they know fine well this is a sleeping giant who would have threatened their grip on the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Bruce gets money because he’s likely playing super nice with Ashley and not calling him out in public or behind closed doors like Rafa likely did Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Bruce gets money because he’s likely playing super nice with Ashley and not calling him out in public or behind closed doors like Rafa likely did Bruce is Ashley's Man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Deals like this drag you back in because it’s better than what we’re dealing currently. Hate it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Just when I thought I was out, a striker from a relegated side who hasn't scored in 6 months pulls me back in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 I'd be happy enough if he's our new centre-forward. Knows where the goal is - just needs proper service. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Bruce gets money because he’s likely playing super nice with Ashley and not calling him out in public or behind closed doors like Rafa likely did It's this simple. MA did not like Rafa at all. It's very clear. It was just really unfortunate and frustrating man. Rafa is all about his business, similar to how he is even with his players, as we've all heard. MA wants someone he can be pally with, which is a bit pathetic, but whatever. Unfortunately as the owner that's his prerogative. Bruce has come in and is happy to go with players the 'recruitment team' suggest, which is what MA wants. He can also suggest players that are outside of that remit, provided they are cheap, or can be justified in some way. This hasn't changed with any of the signings we look to be making. Hendrick and Fraser are both free. Lewis fits the young and resale value remit. Wilson is the only one that is completely out of whack, but can be justified due to how badly Joelinton turned out, and therefore not being in a position to take risks with a striker again. Bruce is making it work for him and finding a way to get the players he wants to use, so fair play to him for that. No manager we've had under MA has ever managed that. So now lets see exactly what he's made of. That is what I'm looking forward to. Rafa's name better not even slip out of his goofy mouth anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Amazing how much money Ashley has given to 2 utter s**** managers like McClaren and Bruce and then was tightfisted c*** with Benitez. The club was still paying for its relegation, if rafa was here now (minus the history between both) he’d have the same money available. I do think policy has changed though, maybe Rafas want for established players has been taken on board but Ashley was too stubborn to change while he was here. Nah, It's all out of spite, he didn't like being called out by Rafa. Rafa would have been sacked if he hadn't been so popular with the fans. Ashley would never sack a manager and be forced to pay him off if relegation wasn't a factor. No way on earth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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