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Ketsbaia

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Not sure why people are happy to see them fuck off. It'd render the remaining leagues completely pointless - what's the point in Leicester or Everton winning the leftover Premier League? It would mean nothing.

UEFA, FIFA and the FAs need to throw everything possible out there to prevent this happening.

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Just now, Giselle said:

It doesn’t. There are too many uncompetitive matches in the group stages. 

Why should those teams be denied an opportunity to play those fixtures though?

CSKA Moscow did the double over Real Madrid only a couple years ago as one example.

Should we change the FA Cup so only the top two divisions can enter?

 

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3 minutes ago, TheInfiniteOdyssey said:

Why should those teams be denied an opportunity to play those fixtures though?

CSKA Moscow did the double over Real Madrid only a couple years ago as one example.

Should we change the FA Cup so only the top two divisions can enter?

 

Shouldn't allow Finland to play in the European Championship this summer because they don't stand a chance of winning it anyhow. Let's rather throw in an England B squad, that will do wonders for viewership figures and interest in the game in Finland.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, 54 said:

I'd be well up for that to be honest. Would be different every season, and not the same 8 clubs in the quarter final. Sounds fun.

This ignores the reality of what happens in other sports. Viewership is highest in tennis when Federer, Nadal and Djokovic play each other in the finals of grand slams. It’s only through repeated competition do compelling storylines develop. You just can’t ignore these realities. People inherently prefer seeing the same names and same stars play each other in important matches. 

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3 hours ago, Rafalove said:

Wonder why there are no German/French teams

In mentions in the article that PSG’s owner has a lot of money in UEFA broadcasting rights and Bayern and Dortmund are hesitant to break the current domestic structure.

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Anyone who advocates a competition where there is no competitions was always on the losing side growing up. 

Side note: delighted these snakes have stabbed Dickie Masters in the back

 

 

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Just now, Tomato Deuce said:

In mentions in the article that PSG’s owner has a lot of money in UEFA broadcasting rights and Bayern and Dortmund are hesitant to break the current domestic structure.

Bayern/Dortmund with the 50+1 rule might not even be able to do it, there'd be a fan revolt if they tried it 

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2 minutes ago, Giselle said:

This ignores the reality of what happens in other sports. Viewership is highest in tennis when Federer, Nadal and Djokovic play each other in the finals of grand slams. It’s only through repeated competition do compelling storylines develop. You just can’t ignore these realities. People inherently prefer seeing the same names and same stars play each other in important matches. 

You mean the same reality where Football is the most popular sport in the world because of its diversity, and competitiveness? 

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3 minutes ago, Giselle said:

This ignores the reality of what happens in other sports. Viewership is highest in tennis when Federer, Nadal and Djokovic play each other in the finals of grand slams. It’s only through repeated competition do compelling storylines develop. You just can’t ignore these realities. People inherently prefer seeing the same names and same stars play each other in important matches. 

Johanna Konta’s victory over Simona Halep in the in the 2017 Wimbledon Women’s Singles Quarterfinal had a higher viewership figure in the UK than the 2019 final between Djokovic and Federer, just leaving that there.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Giselle said:

This ignores the reality of what happens in other sports. Viewership is highest in tennis when Federer, Nadal and Djokovic play each other in the finals of grand slams. It’s only through repeated competition do compelling storylines develop. You just can’t ignore these realities. People inherently prefer seeing the same names and same stars play each other in important matches. 

You got some proof of this reality?

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Just now, Matt said:

I'm glad they don't give Eastern Europeans wild cards at Grand Slams like Wimbledon, because that could never be worth watching.

It’s not like tennis is continuously discussing how to make early round matches more competitive because viewership is too low. Hmm. Early rounds in tennis function as a warmup for the big players but it’s at least over in a week. Come the second week, matches are a lot more competitive. The group stages of the champions league drag on for months. 

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6 minutes ago, Ketsbaia said:

Not sure why people are happy to see them fuck off. It'd render the remaining leagues completely pointless - what's the point in Leicester or Everton winning the leftover Premier League? It would mean nothing.

UEFA, FIFA and the FAs need to throw everything possible out there to prevent this happening.

No one is saying that it wouldn’t be tough. However it would be a good chance to reset. Right now every few years the smaller clubs have to give up more and more for the top clubs which makes the league unbalanced.

Resetting would allow us to have the ability to bring in rules on spending and much needed wage caps and such. It also gives other clubs the opportunity to come up and fill the void, which would trickle down to even allowing more teams in the league system.

It will be tough for some years, but over time our leagues would recover and find the right level in terms of everything.

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Just now, Giselle said:

It’s not like tennis is continuously discussing how to make early round matches more competitive because viewership is too low. Hmm. Early rounds in tennis function as a warmup for the big players but it’s at least over in a week. Come the second week, matches are a lot more competitive. The group stages of the champions league drag on for months. 

They're not discussing how to change due to viewership, they're discussing change so the big clubs get to keep more of the TV money.

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Just now, Giselle said:

It’s not like tennis is continuously discussing how to make early round matches more competitive because viewership is too low. Hmm. Early rounds in tennis function as a warmup for the big players but it’s at least over in a week. Come the second week, matches are a lot more competitive. The group stages of the champions league drag on for months. 

And yet there’s always a few upsets in those rounds

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53 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Yeah, that’s what I was asking really. Are there enough interested fans and will they pay enough for the subscriptions?

Guess there must be.

TBH there is a certain enjoyment to American sports with no promotion and relegation. You can just enjoy the game and it doesn’t really matter that much if you have a bad season. Obviously that removes a lot of the drama as well. 

Playoffs make up for any drama lost by not having promotion/relegation.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Thomson Mouse said:

You got some proof of this reality?

‘Sunday’s Novak Djokovic-Roger FedererWimbledon men’s final averaged a 2.4 rating and 3.83 million viewers on ESPN, up 118% in ratings and 133% in viewership from last year (Djokovic-Kevin Anderson: 1.1, 1.64M) and up 60% and 68% respectively from 2017 (Federer-Marin Cilic: 1.5, 2.28M).

The five-hour match ranks as the highest rated and most-watched Wimbledon final in seven years, since Federer-Andy Murray in 2012 (2.5, 3.93M). Regardless of tournament, it ranks as the top tennis match since the Serena Williams-Venus WilliamsUS Open quarterfinal in 2015 (3.7, 6.0M).’

From here: https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2019/07/wimbledon-mens-final-ratings-seven-year-high/

And also this for the Federer-Rafa match at the Australian Open in 2017:

‘Across Europe, it pulled as many as 11 million viewers on Eurosport and affiliated channels, including record figures for Spain, where it got as many as 1.3 million viewers. 800,000 watched in Britain, making it the second-most-watched Australian Open final in the country. The Spanish broadcast had as many as 1.3 million viewers, making it the second-most-watched Grand Slam final in the network’s history. National networks in Switzerland and France also had above a million on average for the five-set encounter.’

 

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39 minutes ago, Giselle said:

The source of the problem is that the CL has too many teams and the group stages are mostly a foregone conclusion. It would be better if the best teams played each other more often, I think all fans would agree. It would also be better if we didn’t have a bunch of one-sided matches between Real/Barca/PSG and some Eastern European team. The logical solution is to reduce teams, particularly Eastern European teams that are never competitive. And then fill the gap with more matches between the best teams. UEFA need to accept this compromise. Why risk the entire system just to include teams from Romania and Ukraine? 

March Madness-style bracket for CL. Random seeding. Barca upset away in the first round at some razor blade-laden dirt patch in Serbia.

 

 

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