Joe Willock

[Displayname]

Nothing would be better than getting Willock back to his best. Its been quite a while now though. For me he has these 4 last games to show some glimpses of his old self. If he doesnt I would let him go in the summer. 

Should be able to get a decent fee.

[Mazzy]

3 minutes ago, Displayname said:

Nothing would be better than getting Willock back to his best. Its been quite a while now though. For me he has these 4 last games to show some glimpses of his old self. If he doesnt I would let him go in the summer. 

Should be able to get a decent fee.

 

I get the idea but I'd much rather Longstaff leave. I can't see any way we could let them both go. 

[Displayname]

5 minutes ago, Mazzy said:

 

I get the idea but I'd much rather Longstaff leave. I can't see any way we could let them both go. 

Why not? Not like their performances lately will be hard to replace 

 

 

Edited Friday at 16:40 by Displayname

[Mazzy]

5 minutes ago, Displayname said:

Why not? Not like their performances lately will be hard to replace 

 

 

 

 

Because we can't afford to replace both. How much would two Premier League level midfielders cost in your opinion?

 

Add to that the fact that massive squad turnover isn't helpful for team dynamics and both those players have been mainstays of the team for years now so it would be a drastic change for players around them.

[HayDen Traces]

Longstaff speed of thought is really exposed now we have top players around him. You can see our attack literally drop a couple of gears when he has the ball.

That said, in the right system he can be effective. Its just not with us anymore sadly.

[Displayname]

20 minutes ago, Mazzy said:

 

Because we can't afford to replace both. How much would two Premier League level midfielders cost in your opinion?

 

Add to that the fact that massive squad turnover isn't helpful for team dynamics and both those players have been mainstays of the team for years now so it would be a drastic change for players around them.

Like I said, I dont think we have to spend big to replace their quality. With the way PSR works it could easily be financed by what we would get for them in the short term.

 

You might have a point about not overdoing the squad turnover. We seem to be doing a good job integrating new players into our squad, might not want to push it though. 

Dont really think the team morale would get hit by letting them go, surely the team is aware of how things have to go going forward.

 

 

Edited Friday at 17:09 by Displayname

[Ghandis Flip-Flop]

17 hours ago, Mazzy said:

 

Because we can't afford to replace both. How much would two Premier League level midfielders cost in your opinion?

 

Add to that the fact that massive squad turnover isn't helpful for team dynamics and both those players have been mainstays of the team for years now so it would be a drastic change for players around them.

Depends on what Mitchell can uncover in lower leagues here or abroad. We as a fanbase are going to have to come to terms with the fact that not every player we buy can be £30M+ yet, we don’t have the revenue to do it. As others have said elsewhere we need to be competing with Brighton and Bournemouth for these gems at the 10-15M bracket, with a splattering of ready made stars added in.

[Ghandis Flip-Flop]

17 hours ago, Mazzy said:

 

Because we can't afford to replace both. How much would two Premier League level midfielders cost in your opinion?

 

Add to that the fact that massive squad turnover isn't helpful for team dynamics and both those players have been mainstays of the team for years now so it would be a drastic change for players around them.

Also your last point doesn’t really make sense, Willock hasn’t been a regular starter for two years and Longstaff has barely played this season. Players aren't stupid and can obviously see that the trajectory of the club is upwards, which is going to necessitate some players moving on. If nothing else it stops people becoming complacent and things going stale. Something which I think we all had fears about in the early months of the season. A continual churn is good for keeping everyone on their toes and striving to perform.
 

Do you really want a lot of players hanging around the place, who know they aren’t good enough to be starters for the team? Both Willock and Longstaff are at different stages of their careers than Dummett and Ritchie, they could have good careers elsewhere, they just aren’t the right fit for Newcastle as we currently play any longer.
 

 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 10:18 by Ghandis Flip-Flop

[Pilko]

Hopefully we don't see him again and he goes in the summer. Absolutely trash.

[Groundhog63]

People updating individual player's threads to slag them off instead of just posting in the match thread simply because they know, if they did, their post would quickly disappear are attention seeking arseholes 😉

 

At least wait until they game's finished 😎

[Pilko]

Just now, Groundhog63 said:

People updating individual player's threads to slag them off instead of just posting in the match thread simply because they know, if they did, their post would quickly disappear are attention seeking arseholes 😉

 

At least wait until they game's finished 😎

 

People putting a wink face at the end of their post because they haven't got the arsehole to properly call someone out simply don't have an arsehole.

[RUHRLYASLEEVESUP]

1 minute ago, Pilko said:

 

People putting a wink face at the end of their post because they haven't got the arsehole to properly call someone out simply don't have an arsehole.

[ExiledGeordie]

I don’t think he’s shocking but I don’t rate him at the same time.

[Ghandis Flip-Flop]

18 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said:

I don’t think he’s shocking but I don’t rate him at the same time.

This ☝️ he’d be a good player for a counter attacking side. Doesn’t have the ability when your team has the bulk of possession. It’s why Arsenal let him go

 

 

Edited 6 hours ago by Ghandis Flip-Flop
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[Stifler]

Done here.

He’s checked out. He’s not even trying, literally letting their players walk past him with the ball. Just stands there a lot of the time as the game is played around him.

Not good enough, and not worth keeping just to have sitting on the bench.

Sell him to a newly promoted club, he might be good enough for them, and might play better being a big fish in a little pond.

[mouldy_uk]

[Zero]

I genuinely think Longstaff / Miley would give a better performance today. It’s shocking, and what’s even worse is it’s not the first time this season. He is having a shocking season so far

[Kid Icarus]

To the Willock thread! Never mind that he was easily our best in the midfield 3 and Bruno and Tonali were both really poor. 

 

 

Edited 6 hours ago by Kid Icarus

[maybe_next_year]

Honestly I thought he was much better today than recently. Dive was awful, obviously, but I think he was better than Bruno today. 

 

 

 

 

Edited 6 hours ago by maybe_next_year

[ExiledGeordie]

2 minutes ago, Stifler said:

Done here.

He’s checked out. He’s not even trying, literally letting their players walk past him with the ball. Just stands there a lot of the time as the game is played around him.

Not good enough, and not worth keeping just to have sitting on the bench.

Sell him to a newly promoted club, he might be good enough for them, and might play better being a big fish in a little pond.

Hes a squad player, no more. I disagree that hes not trying at all though, I just don’t think hes good enough. 

[Jordan]

Had his chance at a run in team and done nothing. Been poor all season. Time to give Miley a run until the end of the season. 

[ExiledGeordie]

I’d much rather have Miley start 

[Infinitely Content]

Reminds me of Sammy Ameobi. Capable of a moment of brilliance but 99% of the time everything he does is wildly out of control. Capable enough for certain sides, but not for us anymore.

[duo]

35 minutes ago, Pilko said:

Hopefully we don't see him again and he goes in the summer. Absolutely trash.

Trash is a bit harsh - the lad has ability which he has proved in the past he has just not found his form

[Stifler]

2 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said:

Hes a squad player, no more. I disagree that hes not trying at all though, I just don’t think hes good enough. 

Literally waited for opposition players in possession to pass him before he started to make a half arsed attempt to jog back.

I’be always defended his as not being good enough, but he’s actively not tried today. I think he knows he’s never breaking into this team, and it is only a matter of time before he’s moved on and has checked out.