Steve Bruce (now unemployed)

[HawK]

 

30 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said:

It’s a dismal start. The thing that Mike Ashley will possibly pick up on is that we should have won that, a capable coach/manager would have known around 65/70 mins that we weren’t going to score again and made the changes to just see the game out. Was there for the taking. It’s one thing just being shit but losing points from the position we were in will be seen as failure.

 

Total surrender mentality and anything less than a win in our next match and he’s gone I reckon.

 

I'll have whatever you're smoking

[Guest neesy111]

2 minutes ago, TRon said:

Shearer on MOTD quick to discuss Farke's weaknesses as a manager but absolutely failed to acknowledge Rafa at all which is weird considering the Newcastle connection. 

 

He and MoTD are well past their sellby date tbh.  Surprised people still watch it.

[Danh1]

4 minutes ago, TRon said:

Shearer on MOTD quick to discuss Farke's weaknesses as a manager but absolutely failed to acknowledge Rafa at all which is weird considering the Newcastle connection. 

He won’t want to upset his mate Steve by bigging up the person he rants about in The Diamond. 

[54]

8 hours ago, neesy111 said:

 

He and MoTD are well past their sellby date tbh.  Surprised people still watch it.

By all accounts it's actually doing better then ever, it got its highest ever viewership the other week. 

 

I generally like Shearers analysis, although his reluctance to criticize Bruce is a bit weird, although that said, not sure if I'd ever want to slate a mate on national TV.

 

 

Edited September 26, 2021 by 54

[jackyboy]

Yesterday was a tale of 2  managers. The Watford manager organising his team of average ageing players and getting the best out of them. Bruce with a much better squad, incapable of organising them and the best he can offer is to stand on the touchline clapping his hands and shouting c'mon. 

[RUHRLYASLEEVESUP]

Did the slug mention VAR saving his Bacon ? 

[TRon]

51 minutes ago, 54 said:

By all accounts it's actually doing better then ever, it got its highest ever viewership the other week. 

 

I generally like Shearers analysis, although his reluctance to criticize Bruce is a bit weird, although that said, not sure if I'd ever want to slate a mate on national TV.

 

 

 

 

Which makes him pretty useless as an analyst as far as we are concerned. I have no problem with him being mates with wankers like Bruce, but we care about our club not who Shearer's mates are.

 

Why does he have such a problem saying anything positive about Rafa btw? He's not a mate or an enemy as far as I know, but Wor Al always keeps a tight lip on Rafa's professionalism and standing in the game. Didn't Rafa go to war with the owner over the disgusting lack of ambition at NUFC? Did his mate Bruce ever do that?

 

 

[Guest neesy111]

Best ever viewings were down to the CR game vs us.  I think as a production it's shit, I also include most of the other pundits in my analysis.  Just think it needs a refresh.

[Yorkie]

10 hours ago, thomas said:

Again I don't think he's in anywhere near the amount of peril he should be but I don't know what makes people think he's bulletproof. Our bar of acceptable stewardship is obviously higher than Ashley's but to suggest he'd be happy having to invest again to get us out of the championship is a little much.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if Bruce was here next season even if we got relegated. History suggests Ashley will gamble on keeping the manager right up until the point that it's too late. If that happens, and relegation becomes a certainty, I think they'd sooner gamble again on Bruce getting us promoted than consider recruiting someone else. 

 

The only thing that sees him removed, imo, is a takeover. 

[Dancing Brave]

 

[Guest]

Didn’t he ask us to judge him on results?

[RUHRLYASLEEVESUP]

4 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

Didn’t he ask us to judge him on results?

& the accumulation of points 

[Guest]

I’d take boring shit defensive football under Bruce if we were actually good at it. If we were grinding out 0-0s instead of losing and digging deep and shutting up shop at 1-0 up, then I’d respect him. He’s just shite though.

[Beth]

When you look at our first six fixtures compared those of the teams below us you can tell we're fucked unless Bruce fucks off and/or Wilson stays fit when he comes back from injury. (So we are fucked).

[SUPERTOON]

Through our bad run last season I didn’t see any possible may Ashley would get rid of him, however this season is different because we don’t have the points on the board this season and I can’t see us winning a game anytime soon.

 

Not saying I’m expecting Ashley to sack him but I think there is much more chance this season than last.

[Wolfcastle]

2 hours ago, Dancing Brave said:

 

Anybody raving about that is literally a raving lunatic.

 

An open game at one of the favourites for relegation who we fkn well should be creating chances against as a bare minimum that in the end was drawn?!  Truly halcion days. How many other clubs would flagellate themselves over that ffs? Its a window into how s**t this manager knows he is, that achieving what every other manager will this season is boast-worthy.

We've not won one of our six winnable games - club and Bruce are perfectly satisfied. Again - what other club would behave like that?

 

 

Edited September 26, 2021 by Wolfcastle

[Abacus]

The kebab shop reference is such a deliberate dig 

 

He's right though.

 

Two poor teams can still play an entertaining game. But what everyone can see is a complete lack of purpose, organisation or structure.

[TRon]

50 minutes ago, Abacus said:

The kebab shop reference is such a deliberate dig 

 

He's right though.

 

Two poor teams can still play an entertaining game. But what everyone can see is a complete lack of purpose, organisation or structure.

 

And a lack of goals. To be talking about entertaining football when we are barely managing a goal a game is just embarrassing. There's a reason our games aren't on the telly as much this season, we are awful to watch, and one game where we push up a bit and take a few feeble shots at goal isn't going to change anyone's opinion. 

[Bintang]

More of the same? He is trying to liken himself to Keegan here by claiming to have an entertaining team. The thing is, Keegans teams actually won and did against the best in the country. We have been in two matches that were end to end but against relegation rivals. Neither of which we won. A decent team would have ripped us apart the way we played defensively.

[Nepharite]

There has been no semblance of control by Bruce's team in either game. We keep saying that a half decent manager would have these games under our control and ultimately notched up as wins. I'm tired of caring quite frankly.

[Wallace]

No idea how much it will take to pay Bruce off but I just don't understand the willingness to stick with a poor manager and sacrificing the potential financial benefits from guaranteeing Premier League football.    How much is each place worth these days - £1m+ - plus the additional TV money that we are not going to be getting this season because we are being broadcast less than in previous years and the certainty of any interested buyers walking away when we get relegated (as Ashley probably won't want to lower the sale price).

 

I realise that Ashley won't make a decision until he has no choice (and it is too late) and that he is a gambler but if you are trying to sell the club (and especially to particular buyer who are only interested in a Premier League club), why take that risk?  He will lose so much more than the cost of paying Bruce off.

[Nepharite]

1 minute ago, Wallace said:

No idea how much it will take to pay Bruce off but I just don't understand the willingness to stick with a poor manager and sacrificing the potential financial benefits from guaranteeing Premier League football.    How much is each place worth these days - £1m+ - plus the additional TV money that we are not going to be getting this season because we are being broadcast less than in previous years and the certainty of any interested buyers walking away when we get relegated (as Ashley probably won't want to lower the sale price).

 

I realise that Ashley won't make a decision until he has no choice (and it is too late) and that he is a gambler but if you are trying to sell the club (and especially to particular buyer who are only interested in a Premier League club), why take that risk?  He will lose so much more than the cost of paying Bruce off.

You've answered you own question, Ashley is a gambler and so far with Bruce its paid off in spades as far as hes concerned.

[HawK]

I feel like I have to come into this thread or whomever our manager generally is, every 6 weeks to remind the few that seem to be 'surprised' or 'shocked' that Ashley would risk not sacking Bruce. 

 

I'll have to dig up my earlier statements, but it goes like this : Ashley will never, ever sack a manager for on-field reasons if the club is 17th or higher. The manager would also have to be 18th or lower for a prolonged period for this to happen. Our performances or 'style' mean nothing to him. 

 

So, right now we are 17th, he's going absolutely nowhere. If you want him gone, then it's the sackpardew.com route where he's pushed out by the fans. Unfortunately, after Pardew, I think most of the fans that care about the club have given up, and I don't blame them. 

 

 

Edited September 26, 2021 by HawK

[midds]

3 points from the first 18 available. 

14 goals conceded with 0 clean sheets

Taken the lead 4 times in games (West Ham, Soton x2 and Watford) and each time got pegged back

7 points dropped from winning positions and we've only played half a dozen games. 

Knocked out of the League cup at the first hurdle

 

And it's been a very favourable start on paper too, the fixtures have been kind and his team have flopped. They don't look particularly fit, they certainly don't look like they're enjoying it and the manager is either coming out with his generic bullshit or confronting journalists who are asking him questions he has no answer to. It's all the classic signs of a team bang in trouble who need to take immediate action. He maintains he can take criticism. He claims we're playing well but the fans have eyes and know when they're being bullshitted by a poor manager who has no idea how to correct the slump he's overseen. A proper club would sack him today. 

[Bintang]

Sack the fat bastard now. I can't stand his comments every match, saying we should be happy with mediocrity. He is deliberately crushing the hopes and dreams of all our fans in palm of his fat kebab ridden hand.