Darth Crooks Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Yep. It is bitter but tbh we’ve had enough settling for 3rd/11th best and being told to be glad of it. No bad intent there mate just trying to punctuate my venom with the odd joke. The rebuild starts here and by purging the rot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 3 hours ago, Decky said: This is the best analysis I’ve heard yet from the media about Bruce. Shearer won’t be texting Wright back for a few days. Melissa was bang on aswell. That's great stuff. Thanks for the share. Interim manager seems the way unless they really pull a shock Conte level rabbit out of the hat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Not keen on an interim manager personally. could end up with him having a purple patch and being lumbered with someone who is subpar ala man utd with ogs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, GWN said: look at most new owners of the big clubs , rarely do they know anything,they buy the help. Yes but look at our infrastructure. We're light years behind Burnley. All I'm saying is that they are not concerned about losing to Spurs, because they've looked at the business and the facts don't lie. Truth is, we could beat them, and getting rid of Bruce would make that more likely. 1 hour ago, cosmic said: Sir John Hall admitted he knew nothing about football when he first invested. He hit the jackpot when Keegan came on board. Will be the same for Consortium. Find the right Management structure, support them and let them do the work ! Precisely what I'm comparing to. Hall was a businessman but his first decision was an emotional one. We're unlikely to strike it lucky with a manager who can lift the place like Keegan did, but getting rid of Bruce could have a similar impact. But longer short term, does it leave us in a better position to beat Palace, arguably the more important fixture, next week? Probably not. Edited October 15, 2021 by Happinesstan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 56 minutes ago, Ben said: Ashley has really fucked us up, it's going to take a long time for the bitterness to go away But a very short time until the sweetness washes over. It's going to be weirder than it ever was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Not keen on an interim manager personally. could end up with him having a purple patch and being lumbered with someone who is subpar ala man utd with ogs Aye, that is also if we settle for someone a bit shit and I don't think we will. If they weren't limited they would be the long term manager of choice. If they are just interim the board will be ruthless should the person they want become available. Outside of Conte or Rafa I don't know who would be a long term manager on that list of linked names. Rodgers maybe. The rest all seem like transitional at best. To be fair to Conte he isn't generally a long term manager either. Having a Rangnick or Favre come in for a year or two to get us in a place for a successor makes sense to me. Just no Martinez, Lampard or Gerrard please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Hope’s article is spot on. Feel the consortium have made a bit of a gaff in not removing Bruce straight away. They are new to this though, so it will happen, but there is no room for sentiment. Bruce is a dark cloud, he’s poison and hated by the fans. He isn’t part of any plans, there is no need for him to be there. He shouldn’t have been at the training ground, we could have easily done it with what is there, Jones could have covered the Spurs game. But instead he has been allowed to hang around and it has changed the rhetoric this week slightly, where it’s been about him and it shouldn’t have been at all. He definitely shouldn’t be doing any press conferences or be there on Sunday, it’s pointless and pouring negativity where it didn’t need to be, but they are a little stuck now as they have let him be there all week. It’s just been a bit of a distraction that could have easily been rectified on what has been a glorious week leading to what will be an unbelievable day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Bloody hell, just popped sky sports news on while having my brekkie and had to switch it straight off. Bunch of nobody’s talking about how bad Bruce has been treated, how good a manager he is and how good a man he is, and shit you not they were talking about how he lost his parents. Absolutely unbelievable shit being spouted. He really does manage to have these people swallowing his utter tripe. Fuming now, and his shit press conference is not going to help my mood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Just now, reefatoon said: Bloody hell, just popped sky sports news on while having my brekkie and had to switch it straight off. Bunch of nobody’s talking about how bad Bruce has been treated, how good a manager he is and how good a man he is, and shit you not they were talking about how he lost his parents. Absolutely unbelievable shit being spouted. He really does manage to have these people swallowing his utter tripe. Fuming now, and his shit press conference is not going to help my mood. Get him gone man. You just know the crowd will cheer us on to beat Spurs and he’ll Lord it all over us and his media buddies will be shouting “See! See! Give him a chance!!!! He’s a Na amazing manager. Give him £500m to spend and he’ll have you mid table. Great bloke!” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Ben said: IIf Bruce announces today that Sunday is his last game, would people actively support him and give him a good send off ? TBF under the current circumstances and the way I think about the future I think I would, in a sort of ding dong the witch is dead way. Fucking NO The despicable fucker has reeked the place out with his prehistoric soundbites, demoralising spirit, hope & belief & knew full well what he was doing, he's a fat fucking stooge who has less pride in himself than a dung beetle. fuck him & fuck any well wishes Sorry but hes a pure cunt Edited October 15, 2021 by RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 I want it clear how we feel about Bruce on the terraces but I don't want it to dampen the carnival. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 I totally tuned out when Rafa went as loads of others did. What's Bruce done to be almost universally hated by the fans? Is it just the football, which I'm sure most expected to be atrocious from the start, or has he done or said some Pardew-like things as well? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, kisearch said: I totally tuned out when Rafa went as loads of others did. What's Bruce done to be almost universally hated by the fans? Is it just the football, which I'm sure most expected to be atrocious from the start, or has he done or said some Pardew-like things as well? The constant putting down of the club ? His support of Ashley ? His constant criticism and blaming the fans ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, kisearch said: I totally tuned out when Rafa went as loads of others did. What's Bruce done to be almost universally hated by the fans? Is it just the football, which I'm sure most expected to be atrocious from the start, or has he done or said some Pardew-like things as well? He's baited us and treated us with contempt from day one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, kisearch said: I totally tuned out when Rafa went as loads of others did. What's Bruce done to be almost universally hated by the fans? Is it just the football, which I'm sure most expected to be atrocious from the start, or has he done or said some Pardew-like things as well? 1. Shit football 2. Keeps talking about it taking time... 2 years in. 3. Getting his media mates to stick up for him. 4. Attacking the media who rightly question him. 5. Attacking fans. 6. Attacking Rafa. 7. Not quitting, despite the fans wanting him gone. 8. Pretending to be a Newcastle fan despite admitting to supporting Manchester United. 9. Treating Matty Longstaff like crap. 10 Hunting out "the mole". 11. Signing Jeff Hendrick. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GideonShandy Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Kept us ticking over, though. And managed our unrealistic expectations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Pleased I missed all of that tbh, it would have properly wound me up. Fair play to Ashley like, letting Rafa leave and replacing him with Steve fucking Bruce made it a lot easier to people to finally say enough was enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 22 minutes ago, TheGuv said: Get him gone man. You just know the crowd will cheer us on to beat Spurs and he’ll Lord it all over us and his media buddies will be shouting “See! See! Give him a chance!!!! He’s a Na amazing manager. Give him £500m to spend and he’ll have you mid table. Great bloke!” Eurgh. That bolded just sent my mind in to overdrive. Could just imagine the new DOF somehow managing to snatch Messi for his final years, Mbappe on a free and trigger Haaland's release clause before Bruce barely scrapes top ten with them and we'd probably hear how 'they're not his players'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 I’m actually prepared to accept that he’s a decent guy. A lot of people genuinely seem to like him and he does seem quite affable. But what cannot be argued is that he is a shit football manager and horribly out of his depth in the PL. Pundits refuse to separate experience from ability and personality from managerial record and it is fucking infuriating because the facts are readily available and don’t lie. If Bruce was a renowned total wanker of a person but had some managerial talent, he’d get an easier ride. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 (edited) A nice guy wouldn't throw his players under the bus to excuse himself, or bait the fans, or hold a grudge against his predecessor. He's a petty, whiny man child, who'd do just about anything to save his own skin. Asking the lads how the family are doesn't make him a nice chap. Edited October 15, 2021 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 He’s not a nice guy, you don’t treat clubs the way he has over the years if you’re a decent man, see Rafa, Sir Bobby, now they are/were good men. He’s in it for himself and himself only. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 A nice guy wouldn't have a single mother and two kids live in a mould and damp infested shithole which then hospitalised them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Just speaking about him in here makes brings it home how awful it is he’s going to still be here on Sunday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 He's shown enough times that he's not a nice guy, from being slumlord, to consistently rival-hopping, to binning off a club that bent over backwards to accommodate him at the first sign of a slightly better situation, to goading the fans of the club he claims to 'support' for two straight years. Being good craic over a beer or a bacon sarnie for the right people doesn't make you a nice bloke. It always seems to be a select type of person with direct experience of him that claim this nice bloke stuff. Strangely, they all tally up as being people within football in some form or other, who conveniently can do his bidding when he starts getting flak from the fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, wormy said: He's shown enough times that he's not a nice guy, from being slumlord, to consistently rival-hopping, to binning off a club that bent over backwards to accommodate him at the first sign of a slightly better situation, to goading the fans of the club he claims to 'support' for two straight years. Being good craic over a beer or a bacon sarnie for the right people doesn't make you a nice bloke. It always seems to be a select type of person with direct experience of him that claim this nice bloke stuff. Strangely, they all tally up as being people within football in some form or other, who conveniently can do his bidding when he starts getting flak from the fans. Agreed, in press conferences he has shown himself to be a petty wanker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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