nufcjb Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 The only team below us that seem rather bad like us is the mackems. They're pretty the same under The Dick as they were under Poyet. I did say before I'd swallow this season as painful as it is if we avoid relegation by a point above them and they can take their 5 in a row banner to the championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 I think Leicester will have us next weekend, they're confident and we are the complete opposite. The big one is whether the Mackems win at home. The return of De Jong and Cisse might just nab us a couple points to keep us safe. We're doing everything possible to take it to the last weekend though, that's how bad we are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Where the heck people are getting this idea from that we're going to pick up points is beyond me. We've got a very thin squad, low on quality (and no motivation to play for the club anymore), with a 'head coach' who hasn't a clue, no balls, and has completely lost the plot. Good fucking luck with that. We won't need to. QPR are going to get six points max, which would give them 33. Burnley have to play Hull and Villa, they can't all win. All Hull's other games are ones they'd lose 99 times out of 100. Mackems have three away games they'll almost certainly lose and one of their others is Leicester. 35 points is already enough. I'm not so sure - you would back Hull to beat Burnley at home so they just need a single point from their other 4 games, and neither Liverpool or Spurs are playing brilliantly - from the reverse fixtures this season Hull got 2 points. Leicester should beat us and QPR I reckon Burnley and QPR are gone, final spot is between us and the mackems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Even if we stay up next season's relagation is a formality anyway unless Ashley makes drastic changes in pre season, and then he misses out on the huge tv deal for 2016/2017. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthiGeordie Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 If we dont draw against Leicester we are as good as down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Even if we beat them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthiGeordie Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Even if we beat them? Good luck with that. There is zero percent of chance for us to beat them. Meanwhile if Hull lose Against Liverpool on Tuesday they might save us. I dont see them getting any points against Arsenal, Manchester UTD and Spurs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Even if we beat them? Good luck with that. There is zero percent of chance for us to beat them. Meanwhile if Hull lose Against Liverpool on Tuesday they might save us. I dont see them getting any points against Arsenal, Manchester UTD and Spurs. Ugh imagine if we go down on goal difference, saving Hull and Phil Brown makes an appearance again just to sing his song. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beezeri Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 57 goals conceded in 34 games! Almost 1,7 goals per game. The Entertainers couldn't be at top half of the table with that sort of defending. Defending must come from the whole team starting from the first line of attack. No desire, no defence! Carver being such an a**hole you could think he could be able to fix the attitude problem, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 If we dont draw against Leicester we are as good as down. I don't understand why people keep saying this - unless you're being superstitious or lazy. It seems pretty clear that even if you lose all your games you're probably going to stay up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 looking at those fixtures properly you'd have to think it's between hull and sunderland for the last spot, assuming Leicester can beat us (which they will) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Cant see us stopping up considering sunderland,Leicester and hull have a game in hand over us, We'll go down on 36 points Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Even if we beat them? Good luck with that. There is zero percent of chance for us to beat them. Meanwhile if Hull lose Against Liverpool on Tuesday they might save us. I dont see them getting any points against Arsenal, Manchester UTD and Spurs. People love a bit of hyperbole Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickthemagpie Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 If we dont draw against Leicester we are as good as down. I don't understand why people keep saying this - unless you're being superstitious or lazy. It seems pretty clear that even if you lose all your games you're probably going to stay up. The 4 teams just below us have averaged slightly less than a point a game. Law of averages suggests at least one will overtake us. This assumes we don't pick up anymore points of course. I mean, how likely is that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gino14 Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 If we dont draw against Leicester we are as good as down. I don't understand why people keep saying this - unless you're being superstitious or lazy. It seems pretty clear that even if you lose all your games you're probably going to stay up. I've been through the predictor and this simply isn't the case. I didn't even give the lesser teams any shock results and if we don't get a point we go down with Sunderland saved. If we get one point we stay up in a few scenarios and are down in others. 37 points pretty much guaranteed safety and 38 definitely did. 35 points though and there's definitely very few ways we stay up. So we definitely need something and the idea we'll stay up no matter what is incorrect. 4 points from five games is all it would take most teams to overtake us on goal difference, which is more than what they're getting. Where is our next point coming from? That is the real issue here. I wouldn't back Carver to get a point playing any of the local pub sides. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 It so doesn't even matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 If we dont draw against Leicester we are as good as down. I don't understand why people keep saying this - unless you're being superstitious or lazy. It seems pretty clear that even if you lose all your games you're probably going to stay up. I've been through the predictor and this simply isn't the case. I didn't even give the lesser teams any shock results and if we don't get a point we go down with Sunderland saved. If we get one point we stay up in a few scenarios and are down in others. 37 points pretty much guaranteed safety and 38 definitely did. 35 points though and there's definitely very few ways we stay up. So we definitely need something and the idea we'll stay up no matter what is incorrect. 4 points from five games is all it would take most teams to overtake us on goal difference, which is more than what they're getting. Where is our next point coming from? That is the real issue here. I wouldn't back Carver to get a point playing any of the local pub sides. If the bottom three teams don't get any shock results they will go down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 And even one shock mightn't be enough. Only one team can do 'a Leicester' and that's Leicester. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Our saving grace may be that Sunderland don't have to play us again. You can have to deduct six points from two games to work out how well they're doing against everyone else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthiGeordie Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 If we dont draw against Leicester we are as good as down. Sunderland will win against Southampton and Westham at home to get 36 points. That will surely mean we go down. I don't understand why people keep saying this - unless you're being superstitious or lazy. It seems pretty clear that even if you lose all your games you're probably going to stay up. I've been through the predictor and this simply isn't the case. I didn't even give the lesser teams any shock results and if we don't get a point we go down with Sunderland saved. If we get one point we stay up in a few scenarios and are down in others. 37 points pretty much guaranteed safety and 38 definitely did. 35 points though and there's definitely very few ways we stay up. So we definitely need something and the idea we'll stay up no matter what is incorrect. 4 points from five games is all it would take most teams to overtake us on goal difference, which is more than what they're getting. Where is our next point coming from? That is the real issue here. I wouldn't back Carver to get a point playing any of the local pub sides. If the bottom three teams don't get any shock results they will go down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gino14 Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 If we dont draw against Leicester we are as good as down. I don't understand why people keep saying this - unless you're being superstitious or lazy. It seems pretty clear that even if you lose all your games you're probably going to stay up. I've been through the predictor and this simply isn't the case. I didn't even give the lesser teams any shock results and if we don't get a point we go down with Sunderland saved. If we get one point we stay up in a few scenarios and are down in others. 37 points pretty much guaranteed safety and 38 definitely did. 35 points though and there's definitely very few ways we stay up. So we definitely need something and the idea we'll stay up no matter what is incorrect. 4 points from five games is all it would take most teams to overtake us on goal difference, which is more than what they're getting. Where is our next point coming from? That is the real issue here. I wouldn't back Carver to get a point playing any of the local pub sides. If the bottom three teams don't get any shock results they will go down. Sunderland don't look quite as sackless with the new manager. Five points from five games, essentially just above relegation form and they stay up above us on goal difference. The rest don't even need that to get above us. It's very touch and go when the rate is 1 point per game and every team no matter how crap is edging on that and improving the rate a lot the past ten games. The past ten games the relegation sides are more like 1.2 points per game. I don't think we'll go down, odds are well against it, but it's not a certainty we stay up by any means. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 If we dont draw against Leicester we are as good as down. I don't understand why people keep saying this - unless you're being superstitious or lazy. It seems pretty clear that even if you lose all your games you're probably going to stay up. I've been through the predictor and this simply isn't the case. I didn't even give the lesser teams any shock results and if we don't get a point we go down with Sunderland saved. If we get one point we stay up in a few scenarios and are down in others. 37 points pretty much guaranteed safety and 38 definitely did. 35 points though and there's definitely very few ways we stay up. So we definitely need something and the idea we'll stay up no matter what is incorrect. 4 points from five games is all it would take most teams to overtake us on goal difference, which is more than what they're getting. Where is our next point coming from? That is the real issue here. I wouldn't back Carver to get a point playing any of the local pub sides. Curious to see what results you gave to sunderland if there's no shocks and they survive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Five points from safety. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gino14 Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 If we dont draw against Leicester we are as good as down. I don't understand why people keep saying this - unless you're being superstitious or lazy. It seems pretty clear that even if you lose all your games you're probably going to stay up. I've been through the predictor and this simply isn't the case. I didn't even give the lesser teams any shock results and if we don't get a point we go down with Sunderland saved. If we get one point we stay up in a few scenarios and are down in others. 37 points pretty much guaranteed safety and 38 definitely did. 35 points though and there's definitely very few ways we stay up. So we definitely need something and the idea we'll stay up no matter what is incorrect. 4 points from five games is all it would take most teams to overtake us on goal difference, which is more than what they're getting. Where is our next point coming from? That is the real issue here. I wouldn't back Carver to get a point playing any of the local pub sides. Curious to see what results you gave to sunderland if there's no shocks and they survive. One home win against another rubbish side and a couple of draws. That's the permutation where they survive over us, but look at their fixtures and it's more than possible. It's not probable, which is why we'll probably survive. It's just no certainty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Found a quick predictor on a Grimsby forum, the results are: Team P. GD Pts Chelsea 38 39 88 Arsenal 38 31 82 Man City 38 34 77 Man Utd 38 25 74 Liverpool 38 11 67 Tottenham 38 6 64 Soton 38 21 62 Swansea 38 -3 52 Stoke 38 -3 51 Everton 38 1 50 West Ham 38 0 49 Palace 38 -5 43 Leicester 38 -16 39 Aston Villa 38 -22 39 West Brom 38 -14 38 Newcastle 38 -21 37 Hull. 38 -14 35 Mackems. 38 -23 34 QPR 38 -21 30 Burnley 38 -26 27 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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