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[mrmojorisin75]

anyone that thinks we're up is a lunatic

 

the only thing we had going for us was not conceding too many and we're now basically throwing the ball into the net as rafa's coaching starts to unravel under bruce - people blame the individuals for getting caught with passes across the defence but it's a clear symptom of how s*** the system is as we're so compressed there's no way to pass it out other than long ball

 

strikers can't score, they aren't even getting near the other goal for the most part

 

players dropping like flies because he's flogged them too early and doesn't know how to manage players' fitness

 

i thought he'd ride to the end of the season but i'm not so sure, other clubs will try and improve in january and we'll think we're safe

 

could be on lads 

 

Absolutely spot on that.

 

The 2 central midfielders are playing just in front of the back four more often than not. This is then inviting pressure from the opposition and as said resulting in the the play being so compressed because there is no out ball through the midfield to start an attack. The ball is then given away cheaply (hoofed) and the pressure starts again. It's so annoying as it's so obvious to see why we only have 30% possession in nearly every game.

 

3 knackers on a message board can see what's going on, apparently a mystery to brewcey et al

 

EDIT: funny thing he changed it at OT of all places and both longstaff brothers were all over the place rather than holding in front of defence, we then get cut to shreds in the space they left behind and it's another shitshow because he doesn't try to play a higher line and press up or anything to compensate, just leaves a 40 yard gap for them to stroll into

 

it's honestly pretty impressive the man is getting paid to do this

 

Yeah either too far back or too far forward, no wonder he has one of the worse % wins in the history of the premiership 

 

to be fair rafa had a similar problem for a long time, albeit not as bad obviously

 

i think he only really solved it after Ki came in last season and then longstaff to replace him, that's why we never saw shelvey again - the midfield moved the whole team up with them gradually including CBs, so they were rarely isolated and we got better support in attack, hence we scored well end of last season...did it through short triangle passing

[Infinitely Content]

Looking at the fixture list ahead, the muscle injuries - some of which self-inflicted through lack of competence from the staff, and crucially the fact that results are beginning to reflect our poor tactics subsequent performances this season; we're in trouble, there's no question about it.

[Guest neesy111]

Get the feeling the last relegation place is going to be well above 40 points.

[Guest godzilla]

anyone that thinks we're up is a lunatic

 

the only thing we had going for us was not conceding too many and we're now basically throwing the ball into the net as rafa's coaching starts to unravel under bruce - people blame the individuals for getting caught with passes across the defence but it's a clear symptom of how s*** the system is as we're so compressed there's no way to pass it out other than long ball

 

strikers can't score, they aren't even getting near the other goal for the most part

 

players dropping like flies because he's flogged them too early and doesn't know how to manage players' fitness

 

i thought he'd ride to the end of the season but i'm not so sure, other clubs will try and improve in january and we'll think we're safe

 

could be on lads 

 

Absolutely spot on that.

 

The 2 central midfielders are playing just in front of the back four more often than not. This is then inviting pressure from the opposition and as said resulting in the the play being so compressed because there is no out ball through the midfield to start an attack. The ball is then given away cheaply (hoofed) and the pressure starts again. It's so annoying as it's so obvious to see why we only have 30% possession in nearly every game.

 

3 knackers on a message board can see what's going on, apparently a mystery to brewcey et al

 

EDIT: funny thing he changed it at OT of all places and both longstaff brothers were all over the place rather than holding in front of defence, we then get cut to shreds in the space they left behind and it's another shitshow because he doesn't try to play a higher line and press up or anything to compensate, just leaves a 40 yard gap for them to stroll into

 

it's honestly pretty impressive the man is getting paid to do this

 

Yeah either too far back or too far forward, no wonder he has one of the worse % wins in the history of the premiership 

 

to be fair rafa had a similar problem for a long time, albeit not as bad obviously

 

i think he only really solved it after Ki came in last season and then longstaff to replace him, that's why we never saw shelvey again - the midfield moved the whole team up with them gradually including CBs, so they were rarely isolated and we got better support in attack, hence we scored well end of last season...did it through short triangle passing

 

We need a box to box player (with ability) desperately and a holding player to receive the ball and the ability to keep the ball moving. I thought S Longstaff may have been the box to box player but under Bruce he has looked horrific. Shelvey should be perfect for the holding player (he's not however), but he is playing too deep and directly on top of the defenders, whilst looking for the 'hollywood' ball every time.

[mrmojorisin75]

anyone that thinks we're up is a lunatic

 

the only thing we had going for us was not conceding too many and we're now basically throwing the ball into the net as rafa's coaching starts to unravel under bruce - people blame the individuals for getting caught with passes across the defence but it's a clear symptom of how s*** the system is as we're so compressed there's no way to pass it out other than long ball

 

strikers can't score, they aren't even getting near the other goal for the most part

 

players dropping like flies because he's flogged them too early and doesn't know how to manage players' fitness

 

i thought he'd ride to the end of the season but i'm not so sure, other clubs will try and improve in january and we'll think we're safe

 

could be on lads 

 

Absolutely spot on that.

 

The 2 central midfielders are playing just in front of the back four more often than not. This is then inviting pressure from the opposition and as said resulting in the the play being so compressed because there is no out ball through the midfield to start an attack. The ball is then given away cheaply (hoofed) and the pressure starts again. It's so annoying as it's so obvious to see why we only have 30% possession in nearly every game.

 

3 knackers on a message board can see what's going on, apparently a mystery to brewcey et al

 

EDIT: funny thing he changed it at OT of all places and both longstaff brothers were all over the place rather than holding in front of defence, we then get cut to shreds in the space they left behind and it's another shitshow because he doesn't try to play a higher line and press up or anything to compensate, just leaves a 40 yard gap for them to stroll into

 

it's honestly pretty impressive the man is getting paid to do this

 

Yeah either too far back or too far forward, no wonder he has one of the worse % wins in the history of the premiership 

 

to be fair rafa had a similar problem for a long time, albeit not as bad obviously

 

i think he only really solved it after Ki came in last season and then longstaff to replace him, that's why we never saw shelvey again - the midfield moved the whole team up with them gradually including CBs, so they were rarely isolated and we got better support in attack, hence we scored well end of last season...did it through short triangle passing

 

We need a box to box player (with ability) desperately and a holding player to receive the ball and the ability to keep the ball moving. I thought S Longstaff may have been the box to box player but under Bruce he has looked horrific. Shelvey should be perfect for the holding player (he's not however), but he is playing too deep and directly on top of the defenders, whilst looking for the 'hollywood' ball every time.

 

i don't how a box to box helps in the setup as it stands, but then i don't see how anything would help

[Guest godzilla]

anyone that thinks we're up is a lunatic

 

the only thing we had going for us was not conceding too many and we're now basically throwing the ball into the net as rafa's coaching starts to unravel under bruce - people blame the individuals for getting caught with passes across the defence but it's a clear symptom of how s*** the system is as we're so compressed there's no way to pass it out other than long ball

 

strikers can't score, they aren't even getting near the other goal for the most part

 

players dropping like flies because he's flogged them too early and doesn't know how to manage players' fitness

 

i thought he'd ride to the end of the season but i'm not so sure, other clubs will try and improve in january and we'll think we're safe

 

could be on lads 

 

Absolutely spot on that.

 

The 2 central midfielders are playing just in front of the back four more often than not. This is then inviting pressure from the opposition and as said resulting in the the play being so compressed because there is no out ball through the midfield to start an attack. The ball is then given away cheaply (hoofed) and the pressure starts again. It's so annoying as it's so obvious to see why we only have 30% possession in nearly every game.

 

3 knackers on a message board can see what's going on, apparently a mystery to brewcey et al

 

EDIT: funny thing he changed it at OT of all places and both longstaff brothers were all over the place rather than holding in front of defence, we then get cut to shreds in the space they left behind and it's another shitshow because he doesn't try to play a higher line and press up or anything to compensate, just leaves a 40 yard gap for them to stroll into

 

it's honestly pretty impressive the man is getting paid to do this

 

Yeah either too far back or too far forward, no wonder he has one of the worse % wins in the history of the premiership 

 

to be fair rafa had a similar problem for a long time, albeit not as bad obviously

 

i think he only really solved it after Ki came in last season and then longstaff to replace him, that's why we never saw shelvey again - the midfield moved the whole team up with them gradually including CBs, so they were rarely isolated and we got better support in attack, hence we scored well end of last season...did it through short triangle passing

 

We need a box to box player (with ability) desperately and a holding player to receive the ball and the ability to keep the ball moving. I thought S Longstaff may have been the box to box player but under Bruce he has looked horrific. Shelvey should be perfect for the holding player (he's not however), but he is playing too deep and directly on top of the defenders, whilst looking for the 'hollywood' ball every time.

 

i don't how a box to box helps in the setup as it stands, but then i don't see how anything would help

 

Any setup under Bruce is wrong that's most of the problem 

[Dunce]

Mo diame could of helped! A bit power in the middle , for what?

[Raconteur]

Sure, the Diame who looked like Kante would help - but under Bruce we'd get Diame the Geremi impersonator.

[mrmojorisin75]

best thing for all concerned would be for ashley to take his annual holiday safe in the knowledge we've breezed to 25 points i reckon, rock back on 1st feb looking forward to another year on the PL gravy train

[Tribesman]

I still reckon Newcastle will stumble over the line to stay up this season, but that is not a confidant prediction.

 

There is a lot more going against Newcastle this time. Better teams than the last 2 seasons fighting relegation, a worse manager, a defence that is now leaking goals, not enough goals up front and a lack of star quality to win matches by themselves.

[samptime29]

Big wins for Villa and West Ham - going to be intriguing to see how it pans out.

 

40 points might not be enough.

[Guest]

If we go down on 40 plus you just know the ‘Bruce was unlucky’ card will be played.

[mrmojorisin75]

If we go down on 40 plus you just know the ‘Bruce was unlucky’ card will be played.

 

perfect, they might keep him then and we'll ensure our place back in the champo for good

[AyeDubbleYoo]

It would be pretty unlucky TBF.

[BirtleyMag]

Going down on 40+ points would not be unlucky at all. If there are 17 other teams who have gained more points, then you deserve to be relegated.

 

I can see the table being really tight this season across the whole of the bottom half to be honest.There may only be 10 points between 11th and 18th. Good job our goal difference has been preserved so well isn’t it?

[mrmojorisin75]

Going down on 40+ points would not be unlucky at all. If there are 17 other teams who have gained more points, then you deserve to be relegated.

 

I can see the table being really tight this season across the whole of the bottom half to be honest.There may only be 10 points between 11th and 18th. Good job our goal difference has been preserved so well isn’t it?

 

good point another thing to add to the list for pro rafa minus bruce things that are direct contrasts between them

 

 

[Guest]

It would be pretty unlucky TBF.

 

Naaaah. I remember when people said that about West Ham but one team had 19, another mid 20s so naturally 3rd bottom would be expected to have a few more points than normal.

[Kanj]

Hope mike Ashley’s club gets relegated.

 

Hope he looks like a fucking moron on the process - for allowing Rafa to walk. For paying compensation for a coach to relegate your team. For the dodgy transfer of Joelinton.

 

Hope “nice” guy Bruce never gets a job in the PL again.

 

Hope Charnley gets sacked by his mate Mike Ashley.

 

Hope Mike Ashley sells the club one day at a massive loss and loses all his money and wealth the cunt.

[Gallowgate End]

It would be pretty unlucky TBF.

 

Naaaah. I remember when people said that about West Ham but one team had 19, another mid 20s so naturally 3rd bottom would be expected to have a few more points than normal.

 

Anyone know the year West Ham got relegated?

 

I’d be quite interested to see that league table.

[astraguy]

02/03

[BirtleyMag]

It would be pretty unlucky TBF.

 

Naaaah. I remember when people said that about West Ham but one team had 19, another mid 20s so naturally 3rd bottom would be expected to have a few more points than normal.

 

Anyone know the year West Ham got relegated?

 

I’d be quite interested to see that league table.

 

Don’t bother, it’s too depressing to look at compared to now.

[Guest]

Sunderland ended on 19, WBA on 26, West Ham 42 & Bolton 44. West Ham got over 20% of their points in the 4 games against the bottom two.

[Guest covmag]

Job done lads man fucking relax 

 

 

Seriously ok, I stand by that comment in the end, however the football(hoofball) is getting worse, I doubt it was ever any good.I put my hands up and say many were right about Bruce, I defend it when it’s day to day slagging off of fans and the team but I’ve come to conclusion this team is definitely capable of staying up but maybe not under Bruce.So many are going backwards, no real pattern of play, no goals, injuries left right and centre.

 

Bleak times ahead, I won’t revel in it and fwiw I think we will scrape survival, yesterday was fucking ridiculously shite.

 

 

[Gallowgate End]

It would be pretty unlucky TBF.

 

Naaaah. I remember when people said that about West Ham but one team had 19, another mid 20s so naturally 3rd bottom would be expected to have a few more points than normal.

 

Anyone know the year West Ham got relegated?

 

I’d be quite interested to see that league table.

 

Don’t bother, it’s too depressing to look at compared to now.

 

Just seen 3rd

[Raconteur]

Job done lads man fucking relax 

 

 

Seriously ok, I stand by that comment in the end, however the football(hoofball) is getting worse, I doubt it was ever any good.I put my hands up and say many were right about Bruce, I defend it when it’s day to day slagging off of fans and the team but I’ve come to conclusion this team is definitely capable of staying up but maybe not under Bruce.So many are going backwards, no real pattern of play, no goals, injuries left right and centre.

 

Bleak times ahead, I won’t revel in it and fwiw I think we will scrape survival, yesterday was fucking ridiculously shite.

 

 

 

I don’t know whether to praise you for admitting you were wrong or criticise you for being a wind vane...

 

Actually, too many people on the internet stick to ridiculous opinions; come join the Brewcie pile-on! it’s about the only fun a Toon fan can have these days