The Prophet Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) I don't understand the lads who think we're gone like. We're five points adrift with 26 games left. Norwich one their first game today and they're back in the mix, that's all it takes. Edited November 20, 2021 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, The Prophet said: I don't understand the lads who think we're gone like. We're five points adrift with 26 games left. Norwich one their first game today and they're back in the mix, that's all it takes. Norwich have won their last 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 those saying january signings will save us - which decent players are gonna sign if we're bottom and cut well adrift? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Just now, SUPERTOON said: Norwich have won their last 2 Aye, my bad. The point still stands though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, The Prophet said: I don't understand the lads who think we're gone like. We're five points adrift with 26 games left. Norwich one their first game today and they're back in the mix, that's all it takes. We've played two thirds of the teams in this league and haven't won a single game. BTW, that final third that we havent played? Away to Arsenal, Leicester, Liverpool and home to Man City are four of those games. I think people have NUFC goggles on, if this was any other team we'd all be saying they're dead and buried. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Just now, Decky said: We've played two thirds of the teams in this league and haven't won a single game. BTW, that final third that we havent played? Away to Arsenal, Leicester, Liverpool and home to Man City are four of those games. I think people have NUFC goggles on, if this was any other team we'd all be saying they're dead and buried. We improved massively today and will continue to do so over the coming weeks. When you're a competent Premier League outfit, you can take points anywhere. Watford just beat Man United, Palace beat Manchester City and Brighton got a draw at Liverpool in recent weeks. If we continue to improve we aren't miles away from these sides. On top of that we still have Norwich and Burnley while Everton and Leicester look beatable at the moment. We only have to win 2-3 of these to stay in touch. We're undoubtedly in bother, but to say we're down and out is ridiculously overdramatic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, The Prophet said: We improved massively today and will continue to do so over the coming weeks. When you're a competent Premier League outfit, you can take points anywhere. Watford just beat Man United, Palace beat Manchester City and Brighton got a draw at Liverpool in recent weeks. If we continue to improve we aren't miles away from these sides. On top of that we still have Norwich and Burnley while Everton and Leicester look beatable at the moment. We only have to win 2-3 of these to stay in touch. We're undoubtedly in bother, but to say we're down and out is ridiculously overdramatic. I disagree, I think its making an assessment after 12 games. Norwich and Burnley may as well by Man City and Liverpool with the state we're in. Brentford lost four games in a row before putting three goals against us, including losing to Burnley and at home to Norwich, two teams you've earmarked as potential wins there. We're in massive shit and again, if this was any other team we'd be saying they're completely fucked. Edited November 20, 2021 by Decky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Just now, Decky said: I disagree, I think its making an assessment after 12 games. Norwich and Burnley may as well by Man City and Liverpool with the state we're in. Brentford lost four games in a row before putting three goals against us, including losing to Burnley and at home to Norwich, two teams you've earmarked as potential wins there. We're in massive shit and again, if this was any other team we'd be saying they're completely fucked. Its difficult to make an assessment after 12 games when 8 were under Bruce and 3 under Jones. Our players have been playing well under capacity. If it were any other team I'd be saying they're in trouble, but completely fucked? No one is at this stage, particularly if they're only five points adrift. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 21 minutes ago, The Prophet said: I don't understand the lads who think we're gone like. We're five points adrift with 26 games left. Norwich one their first game today and they're back in the mix, that's all it takes. In isolation that's one way of looking at it but when you consider how kind the fixture list is the coming to the conclusion that we are going down is far from outrageous Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Just now, The Prophet said: Its difficult to make an assessment after 12 games when 8 were under Bruce and 3 under Jones. Our players have been playing well under capacity. If it were any other team I'd be saying they're in trouble, but completely fucked? No one is at this stage, particularly if they're only five points adrift. Fair enough but I think too many games are gone without us picking up one win. Howe may well have had just one game, but its our 12th of the season. Every game that passes increases the standard of form we need to survive. We're close to needing the form of a top 10 side for the rest of the season now and this team might struggle to meet that demand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Clean sheets win games. There’s fucking nowt to suggest we’ll keep a twatting one against anyone else. Until or unless we address this issue we’re as good as down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 9. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Just takes small margins. Norwich went 10 games and have now won 2 on the bounce... Form can quickly change. I'd say I'm a 5/6 at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Decky said: We've played two thirds of the teams in this league and haven't won a single game. BTW, that final third that we havent played? Away to Arsenal, Leicester, Liverpool and home to Man City are four of those games. I think people have NUFC goggles on, if this was any other team we'd all be saying they're dead and buried. The ace up our sleeve is the January window, but even then I don't know what kind of player would join us under these circumstances. Even if we were somehow manage to scrape our way to 17th by Jan (which looks like the absolute very best case scenario with our fixture list), which players would join be willing to join a relegation scrap? The better players will always have better options, and the lesser quality players who would still be quality signings will surely always be thinking about the eventuality that they'll be replaced soon as safety is secured. I've gone from being quite optimistic and excited to genuinly worried that our defence will ultimately cost us. Edited November 20, 2021 by Thumbheed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Gallowgate Toon said: Just takes small margins. Norwich went 10 games and have now won 2 on the bounce... Form can quickly change. I'd say I'm a 5/6 at the moment. We couldn't beat either of the teams they beat, and we shipped five goals against them as well. If anything Norwich's form makes our game against them tougher. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awaymag Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 I was a 10 before today, Im now a 9 - turn around in 2 weeks with Eddie has been immense. Keep it going and the wins will come. I think we will lose to Arsenal and then beat Norwich and Burnley. Anything else till 1st Jan will be a bonus but I think each week the boys will get more comfortable with how Eddie wants to play! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 1 hour ago, HaydnNUFC said: There's no guarantees of coming straight back up. We have to stay up this season for that reason, really don't buy "it doesn't matter, we have money". There are no guarantees, but you don’t just have money, you have a shit-load of money. I buy it. We’ve already seen Man City keep on throwing money at the wall until eventually it sticks. I’m more confident in you coming straight back up than in you getting relegated in the first place, although you’re going to have to do some serious business in Jan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 8 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: 9. Agreed Little to suggest otherwise. Fat cnut wins again. Too much damage done over too many seasons. Have faith in Howe getting us straight up in style though. Just knocks everything back 1 or 2 years in terms of longer term plans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Mike Ashley’s last ‘fuck you’ to supporters? Almost ensuring relegation via employing Bruce with zero investment in the squad. I accept going down, because it will be a chance to gut the club and rebuild. The former owners stench still lingers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Some spectacular doomers on here. Things haven't looked this bright in years. We just put in the most entertaining performance since Rafas last game in charge against Fulham and we have a transfer window with ambitious owners coming up in a month. Are you guys just dooming so much in order to make the feeling of staying up even better? I'm more confident of staying up now than I ever was with Bruce in charge up until the points where we were mathematically secure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Conjo said: Things haven't looked this bright in years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealGoneKid Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 I know its over and it never really began but in my heart it was so real ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon_Geordie Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 7. I don't agree we're gone....yet. I do think the next 3 games are massively critical. From today, I think having Dubs in we'd have won. I also don't see many teams down there with a front three/four like us. We just need to get the balance and look a little tighter at the back. If we continue to get the fitness up and win 2 of the next 3 I think we're still totally in the mix. If we can keep the gap to a minimal of 3/4 points by January I think we'll be ok. - Keep the Faith. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon_Geordie Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Also, we desperately need some Pace in CD and CM in Jan. Priorities for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) We'll buy our way out of trouble in January. We have endless money. The Saudis will not want their sportswashing happening in the Championship, so we'll spend what we need to survive. "Oooh, player X won't come if we're cut adrift". Like fuck he won't join. Wave enough money at a player and almost anyone will join. The only possible positive from the Ashley regime is how much we can fucking spend and still not fuck with FFP. "Oh, but putting too many new players into a team will make them not work well together." They're all fucking professional footballers and we'll buy a fuckload of the ones at the more talented end of the scale. If we as a team have an understandable style of play there'll be no issues, and we'll have that with Howe. Once they know the system they'll know where to kick the ball even if they've not played together with everyone for ten years before they get on a pitch. Edited November 20, 2021 by Kaizero Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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