ChezGiven Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Paracute payment and income in from transfers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Paracute payment and income in from transfers. One payment but left with the dregs of an already thread bare squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leazes.ender Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 7.5 (moving upwards) We're a team that can't break teams down that come to defend at SJP, so winning the Pompey, Fulham and smogs games becomes difficult evidenced in Stoke, Wigan, Bolton games - 5 points. Mancs, Arse and Chelsea at home are there for us to try an exploit teams who come and play football against us. Likely to involve a couple of heavy beatings but maybe Arse there for the taking if we fight them for it. Evidenced in Villa game - 0/3 points Away from home we're likely to get picked off by everyone so maybe looking at sneaking a win somewhere and another draw - 4 points Will 9 keep us up, doubtful and we'll be depending on others. 12 might still be tight though. Yes there are plenty of worse teams but they'll start flighting for it an i'm not sure we can or know how to. I'll stand by original points thoughts but its now an 8.25 and moving upwards. The Bolton result for us and last night results for others have raised the likely safety bar and lowered our prospects of getting over it. Hull is now a must win as it deprives then of points and if people think 9 points is the required total they almost have to come against Hull, Stock and the Smogs. And i don't think 9 will be enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 If we do go down, we'll be the richest club ever to play in the second tier of English football. QPR have richer owners though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 If we do go down, we'll be the richest club ever to play in the second tier of English football. QPR have richer owners though. I already thought of that, not on the account sheet they arent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Aye, I was gonna 'correct' you properly then realised we're still a richer club. What an honour it would be! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 It's 50-50 for me, at best, and will all come down to the last few games and whether our players have the bottle for it. If they do, they'll get enough points from the run-in to survive. We've better players than the other realistic candidates to go down, but nobody worth a shite to organise and motivate them. It'll be down to the players to do it themselves for the most part. Then, this was obvious when we decided back in September to play out the season without a manager. I'll be honest, I've sort of zoned out a bit the last few months. Was always gonna be touch and go come April with Kinnear in charge, fair play to anyone who had any hope we'd not be fighting for survival this year. Of the 5 away fixtures left, we'll get 4 points at the absolute maximum. That's assuming we get unbelievably jammy in one of them and get an undeserved win. Most likely we'll lose 4 and nick a point somewhere. The next 2 home games look a write-off, hopefully we can put up a performance in one of them and nick a point. It's the final three home games that'll decide this thing. All are very much winnable, but the way we've been this season we're just as likely to lose them. Let's hope we get it together and can pick up 6 points or more from them. Do that, and we'll probably be OK. Best thing is that if we do stay up Kinnear will be extended and we'll get to do it all again next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 How good would it be to have a season where we win about 25 games though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Don't write off the Arsenal & Chelsea games just yet, can see us picking up a point or two from those. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 How good would it be to have a season where we win about 25 games though Crap, becasue we probably wouldn't and we'd end up in the middle of the Championshit for the next few years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Fail to beat Hull for me and we are as good as down, it's that huge of a game as far as I can see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RowanB Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 if we lose at hull, ill go up to a 5. i still think thats realistic given that there are other w*** teams around us, and when push comes to shove we do have a better squad than all of them. Lose to Hull and you're fifty/fifty as to whether we go down? Christ, i admire your optimism. Lose to Hull and i'm done tbh, given the coming fixtures. Three points at Hull will give us a vital bit of a ledge to cling on to, as we inevitably fall away given the rotten upcoming fixtures. Miss out on that and it's goodnight Vienna imo. We're currently trading at 2.9 to go down at Betfair, implying we've got a 34.5% chance of going down. Chris's prediction is possibly slightly pessimistic with regard to the state of the Betfair relegation market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 There aren't many decent chances left for us to pick up points, goes without saying that Hull is one of the best ones. We must beat them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 last night changes little for me, im on 5, but if we lose in a pathetic style to Hull, im going to 8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 last night changes little for me, im on 5, but if we lose in a pathetic style to Hull, im going to 8. You're right, but it does suggest that we have the ability to actually play well. Hopefully we can do it another few times before the end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 last night changes little for me, im on 5, but if we lose in a pathetic style to Hull, im going to 8. You're right, but it does suggest that we have the ability to actually play well. Hopefully we can do it another few times before the end of the season. Its that ability/ application balance, that last night exposed, which is why i think we are Bummed if they dont turn up against Hull. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 last night changes little for me, im on 5, but if we lose in a pathetic style to Hull, im going to 8. You're right, but it does suggest that we have the ability to actually play well. Hopefully we can do it another few times before the end of the season. Its that ability/ application balance, that last night exposed, which is why i think we are Bummed if they dont turn up against Hull. Which is something that we have an annoying history of doing. We don't show up for the winnable games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 If you look at our fixtures we are in a knock out competition with our rivals down the bottom. To use the old cliché, every game against them is a cup final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Yep, once again the games between the bottom clubs will decide who goes down. And we have to play 6 of our remaining 10 fixtures against clubs also in danger of relegation. How many of those 6 can we win? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Yep, once again the games between the bottom clubs will decide who goes down. And we have to play 6 of our remaining 10 fixtures against clubs also in danger of relegation. How many of those 6 can we win? The ones at home if we have Owen and Martins fit, plus Barton should play in a couple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 We've beaten the Spuds the last six times we've played them in the league, so we have to consider that a very winnable game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 We've beaten the Spuds the last six times we've played them in the league, so we have to consider that a very winnable game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 We've beaten the Spuds the last six times we've played them in the league, so we have to consider that a very winnable game. I don't know if you've noticed, but they're fucking shit too. Don't be blinded by a good result against an awful away middlesboro team. Very winnable, although I wouldn't have considered us favourites. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 We've beaten the Spuds the last six times we've played them in the league, so we have to consider that a very winnable game. I don't know if you've noticed, but they're fucking shit too. Don't be blinded by a good result against an awful away middlesboro team. Very winnable, although I wouldn't have considered us favourites. I just think we have failed in so many other "winnable"games this season that I dont think we can label any of the remaining fixtures the same (the Stoke game still pisses me off) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 We've beaten the Spuds the last six times we've played them in the league, so we have to consider that a very winnable game. I don't know if you've noticed, but they're fucking shit too. Don't be blinded by a good result against an awful away middlesboro team. Very winnable, although I wouldn't have considered us favourites. I just think we have failed in so many other "winnable"games this season that I dont think we can label any of the remaining fixtures the same (the Stoke game still pisses me off) This is true. The danger is that we will draw too many of these games like we have been doing all season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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