Dave Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Aye, I was gonna 'correct' you properly then realised we're still a richer club. What an honour it would be! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shak Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 It's 50-50 for me, at best, and will all come down to the last few games and whether our players have the bottle for it. If they do, they'll get enough points from the run-in to survive. We've better players than the other realistic candidates to go down, but nobody worth a shite to organise and motivate them. It'll be down to the players to do it themselves for the most part. Then, this was obvious when we decided back in September to play out the season without a manager. I'll be honest, I've sort of zoned out a bit the last few months. Was always gonna be touch and go come April with Kinnear in charge, fair play to anyone who had any hope we'd not be fighting for survival this year. Of the 5 away fixtures left, we'll get 4 points at the absolute maximum. That's assuming we get unbelievably jammy in one of them and get an undeserved win. Most likely we'll lose 4 and nick a point somewhere. The next 2 home games look a write-off, hopefully we can put up a performance in one of them and nick a point. It's the final three home games that'll decide this thing. All are very much winnable, but the way we've been this season we're just as likely to lose them. Let's hope we get it together and can pick up 6 points or more from them. Do that, and we'll probably be OK. Best thing is that if we do stay up Kinnear will be extended and we'll get to do it all again next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 How good would it be to have a season where we win about 25 games though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDiablo Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Don't write off the Arsenal & Chelsea games just yet, can see us picking up a point or two from those. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 How good would it be to have a season where we win about 25 games though Crap, becasue we probably wouldn't and we'd end up in the middle of the Championshit for the next few years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Fail to beat Hull for me and we are as good as down, it's that huge of a game as far as I can see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RowanB Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 if we lose at hull, ill go up to a 5. i still think thats realistic given that there are other w*** teams around us, and when push comes to shove we do have a better squad than all of them. Lose to Hull and you're fifty/fifty as to whether we go down? Christ, i admire your optimism. Lose to Hull and i'm done tbh, given the coming fixtures. Three points at Hull will give us a vital bit of a ledge to cling on to, as we inevitably fall away given the rotten upcoming fixtures. Miss out on that and it's goodnight Vienna imo. We're currently trading at 2.9 to go down at Betfair, implying we've got a 34.5% chance of going down. Chris's prediction is possibly slightly pessimistic with regard to the state of the Betfair relegation market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 There aren't many decent chances left for us to pick up points, goes without saying that Hull is one of the best ones. We must beat them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 last night changes little for me, im on 5, but if we lose in a pathetic style to Hull, im going to 8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 last night changes little for me, im on 5, but if we lose in a pathetic style to Hull, im going to 8. You're right, but it does suggest that we have the ability to actually play well. Hopefully we can do it another few times before the end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 last night changes little for me, im on 5, but if we lose in a pathetic style to Hull, im going to 8. You're right, but it does suggest that we have the ability to actually play well. Hopefully we can do it another few times before the end of the season. Its that ability/ application balance, that last night exposed, which is why i think we are Bummed if they dont turn up against Hull. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afar Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 last night changes little for me, im on 5, but if we lose in a pathetic style to Hull, im going to 8. You're right, but it does suggest that we have the ability to actually play well. Hopefully we can do it another few times before the end of the season. Its that ability/ application balance, that last night exposed, which is why i think we are Bummed if they dont turn up against Hull. Which is something that we have an annoying history of doing. We don't show up for the winnable games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveItIfWeBeatU Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 If you look at our fixtures we are in a knock out competition with our rivals down the bottom. To use the old cliché, every game against them is a cup final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Yep, once again the games between the bottom clubs will decide who goes down. And we have to play 6 of our remaining 10 fixtures against clubs also in danger of relegation. How many of those 6 can we win? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 Yep, once again the games between the bottom clubs will decide who goes down. And we have to play 6 of our remaining 10 fixtures against clubs also in danger of relegation. How many of those 6 can we win? The ones at home if we have Owen and Martins fit, plus Barton should play in a couple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 We've beaten the Spuds the last six times we've played them in the league, so we have to consider that a very winnable game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 We've beaten the Spuds the last six times we've played them in the league, so we have to consider that a very winnable game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowen Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 We've beaten the Spuds the last six times we've played them in the league, so we have to consider that a very winnable game. I don't know if you've noticed, but they're fucking shit too. Don't be blinded by a good result against an awful away middlesboro team. Very winnable, although I wouldn't have considered us favourites. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 We've beaten the Spuds the last six times we've played them in the league, so we have to consider that a very winnable game. I don't know if you've noticed, but they're fucking shit too. Don't be blinded by a good result against an awful away middlesboro team. Very winnable, although I wouldn't have considered us favourites. I just think we have failed in so many other "winnable"games this season that I dont think we can label any of the remaining fixtures the same (the Stoke game still pisses me off) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 5, 2009 Share Posted March 5, 2009 We've beaten the Spuds the last six times we've played them in the league, so we have to consider that a very winnable game. I don't know if you've noticed, but they're fucking shit too. Don't be blinded by a good result against an awful away middlesboro team. Very winnable, although I wouldn't have considered us favourites. I just think we have failed in so many other "winnable"games this season that I dont think we can label any of the remaining fixtures the same (the Stoke game still pisses me off) This is true. The danger is that we will draw too many of these games like we have been doing all season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 We've beaten the Spuds the last six times we've played them in the league, so we have to consider that a very winnable game. Like others have said they're shit and the fact that we've beaten them so many times obviously has a negative effect on them and a positive one on us. Its certainly not guaranteed, but nobody can argue its a very winnable game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted March 6, 2009 Share Posted March 6, 2009 Thought the score in the Boro game was a bit harsh on Boro tbh. Very light weight team, I fancy a win against Spurs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliMag Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 Thought I would bump this to move the convo over from the "today's matches" thread. I would guess us losing our next three matches leaving it all for us to do at Stoke and Tottenham (both away no less) to build any sort of momentum. Even if we avoid the drop it will be by us limping across the finish. Watch us lose a bunch of our players againstt Arse and CHelsea thereby losing any gain we have of players coming back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 As I said a couple of days ago, the form of the other crap teams has kept us out of trouble (in terms of league position) up to present, but I see them starting to scrap. Bricking it now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted March 11, 2009 Share Posted March 11, 2009 If we lose to Hull, and more than likely lose the 2 games after it, surely that would signify to Ashley that a change has to happen? He cant be THAT thick can he? Having said that, I fully believe if the above does happen, his first thought will be "Joe couldnt come back soon enough". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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