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On 29/09/2021 at 22:35, Fantail Breeze said:

I thought CAT’s write up of one of the panel members was interesting:

 

”Michael Cutting

Ordinary Member

Michael Cutting was from 1988 to 2018 a competition lawyer at Linklaters LLP, including terms leading its London and global competition practices. He also served terms on the Board of Linklaters and Co-chair of the Joint Working Party on competition law of the Bar and Law Society. His experience in private practice included UK and EU merger control, cartels, abuse of dominance and utility regulation. He is also a governor of a primary school in Tottenham and is a member of the Board and management committee of Islington MIND. ”

 

For me the CAT Case was 100% the reason the deal went through. PL knew they'd be exposed. 

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A little bit of responsible journalism would be helpful in the coming days like. There's obvious reservations to be had away from the sporting side of things and a few influential journalists with some common sense could certainly verbalize this appropriately, without whitewashing anything, or pushing it under the carpet. It's gonna get a little bit tiring that our fanbase is being held to account by many.

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Saudis are bad

Russians are bad

Americans are bad

British are bad

Qatar are bad

 

Mike Ashley was bad on a smaller level when it came to employment. 

 

Money corrupts. People reacted like this when Chelsea were bought. Then when City were bought. Now nobody really cares. 

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This article while pointing out the moral issues is pretty much where I stand

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/oct/08/saudi-takeover-newcastle-united-england-football-capital

 

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Little wonder, then, that most of Newcastle is delighted that they now have their own oligarchs to play with. Having been failed, as a city and a club, by the tepid reforms of New Labour’s regeneration programme, the rentier economics of local property developers and the low-wage, sweatshop capitalism of 21st-century retail billionaires, why wouldn’t you opt for foreign oligarchs and their fossil fuel investment funds? It’s precisely what a significant slice of the country’s elites have been doing for years.

There is an entire industry, overwhelmingly in London and the south-east, that has grown grotesquely wealthy on servicing the political and economic needs of the Gulf’s ruling families, and oligarchs and dynasties everywhere. From the banks that launder stolen money, to the accountants that then hide it; from the lawyers who resolve tricky domestic affairs to the PR firms mopping up the damage afterwards, and the estate agents that arrange to store your wealth in London’s empty residential skyscrapers. Our governments and arms industry have been hardly any better, barely able to censure the Saudi state for its human rights abuses, the murder of Jamal Khashoggi or its war in Yemen for fear of losing enormous arms sales and construction contracts. And yet now Newcastle United’s fans are meant to lead the fight for human rights?

There is another footballing world in which these kinds of odious compromises and contradictions could be lessened. The distribution of money within the Premier League and football more widely could have been more egalitarian. Systems of regulation and control could have put a break on the arms race of spending and the concentration of capital and footballing success. It would have been a world in which Newcastle’s phenomenally loyal support would have been an economic advantage rather than an irrelevance.

A properly regulated football would have drawn the line at Abramovich as an owner, let alone permit exiled prime ministers from around the world and the sovereign funds of authoritarian states to buy clubs. In fact, Newcastle United, and every other team, could have been passed into German-style social ownership.

However, at every turn, as with our wider economy and society, we have allowed the private to trump the public. We nurture and tolerate eye-watering levels of inequality, poverty and downward social mobility, and have long since made our peace with the power of capital, whatever its origins and actions. How many times do we have to learn the lesson that, if you continually deny people hope that this can change for the better, they will gravitate to those offering something different, however pernicious their real intentions, however false their prospectus?

 

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6 minutes ago, Miggys First Goal said:

The PL are getting off scot-free here like. Ultimately they approved the deal. I don't see anybody telling them what they did was wrong.

 

Unfortunately, that's the price of this going through. PL transparently kowtows to Bein and fucks over a member club, its fanbase, a city, and a region at its behest. No repercussions. 

 

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I’ve often wondered what “whatabouterry” actually means but from Twitter today I can conclude it means “you have a fair point which sinks my argument but it doesn’t fit my agenda, so I’m going to dismiss it”

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Just now, 54 said:

Love that the social Media Manager can now post shit like this :aww:

 

Being able to embrace our icons and legends that were ousted and treat like shit is fantastic. I hope they invite Jonas to be special guest at a home game soon, so he can get a huge SJP roar or whatever. 

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6 minutes ago, OCK said:

Saudis are bad

Russians are bad

Americans are bad

British are bad

Qatar are bad

 

Mike Ashley was bad on a smaller level when it came to employment. 

 

Money corrupts. People reacted like this when Chelsea were bought. Then when City were bought. Now nobody really cares. 

 

Did they? I honestly can't remember this kind of uproar.

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I’m not really sure people talking about rights are really blaming the fans in any way, are they? They’re not saying football fans are responsible for deciding either, just that the people we’re now owned by are very morally dodgy. 
 

I get that they should be asking these questions to the government and corporations and banks etc, but sadly that’s not how news works. 

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8 minutes ago, Ashley17 said:

I’ve often wondered what “whatabouterry” actually means but from Twitter today I can conclude it means “you have a fair point which sinks my argument but it doesn’t fit my agenda, so I’m going to dismiss it”

 

 

:thup: Got sick of the word almost 18 months ago. :lol:

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10 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

I’m not really sure people talking about rights are really blaming the fans in any way, are they? They’re not saying football fans are responsible for deciding either, just that the people we’re now owned by are very morally dodgy. 
 

I get that they should be asking these questions to the government and corporations and banks etc, but sadly that’s not how news works. 


Had one today calling Newcastle fans Tories for celebrating this.

 

He was from fucking Gillingham.

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Fuck.  Did Ashley scrap the half time hero? Can’t remember exactly when it ended.

 

Although I can’t really bear Colback and Anita being wheeled out as a double act in 5 years time.

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3 minutes ago, Sima said:

Fuck.  Did Ashley scrap the half time hero? Can’t remember exactly when it ended.

 

Although I can’t really bear Colback and Anita being wheeled out as a double act in 5 years time.

 

What a time that was, teams ran straight past us as if they weren't there :lol:

 

I actually attended the incredibly random game of Bahrain vs Curacao a couple of days ago and Anita was playing in midfield for Curacao, we smashed them 4-0 and he was taking off after a disaster of a performance

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Sima said:

Fuck.  Did Ashley scrap the half time hero? Can’t remember exactly when it ended.

 

Although I can’t really bear Colback and Anita being wheeled out as a double act in 5 years time.

 

 

Gimmick battle royal featuring Xisco, Nacho Gonzales, Pancrate, Stephen Ireland, Anita, Amalfitano, Doumbia, Chucky, Riviere, Kuqi, Colback, Ramage, Joe Kinnear and John Carver.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Skeletor said:

 

 

 

You're right. Zack Ryder is another legend that Ashley fucked over. We shouldn't forget Mike Ashley literally had Ryder (sadly not Lee) thrown off the entrance way, in a wheelchair, by John Carver. 

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Kinda sad but not surprising he hasn't got the bollocks to come on and share his wisdom anymore.

 

Edit: Notice he cahnged his profile pic 23 hours ago, go check it out :lol:

 

 

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