Hanshithispantz Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, mrmojorisin75 said: btw i seem to recall that it was said if we were ever taken over we'd be in a position to spend big even taking FFP into account because of how Ashley ran the club over the last few years, has it been speculated yet how much that might run to without any changes to sponsorship and such? Was like £170m or something that was touted during the takeover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Just now, Hanshithispantz said: Was like £170m or something that was touted during the takeover. Yeah that rang a bell with me, I thought around the £200m mark for some reason. I mean you'd think that'd probably do for the next couple of windows Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 You would imagine like In either case we really should be trying to save as much as possible going forwards and prudent as we can now imo. I don't want an early City situation spunking money on mercenaries like Robinho only for them to be a complete non fit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Hanshithispantz said: You would imagine like In either case we really should be trying to save as much as possible going forwards and prudent as we can now imo. I don't want an early City situation spunking money on mercenaries like Robinho only for them to be a complete non fit. Nah course, would hope we go for young(er) players with something to prove that you get something out of long term but I suppose we have more immediate needs. I'd be more than satisfied with a couple of a good loans in Jan and a couple of ~£20m players along the lines of Lingaard if you could pull that off. Get us stabilised then have a proper look at it. Save the money for Harlaand in the summer amirite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 22 minutes ago, mrmojorisin75 said: Yeah that rang a bell with me, I thought around the £200m mark for some reason. I mean you'd think that'd probably do for the next couple of windows Simon Jordan said if we spread the transfer fee over the length of a players contract it could be a lot more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 9 hours ago, nbthree3 said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10121965/Newcastle-Man-City-fear-rivals-ganging-ownerships.html Newcastle and Manchester City are unhappy at being targeted by the rest of the Premier League after the chief executive of another club this week called for curbs on investment from companies specifically from the Gulf. Sportsmail has learned that the explicit geopolitical reference to funding from the region came in an email sent to the other clubs before the emergency Premier League meeting on Monday, at which they voted to introduce a one-month ban on sponsorship involving related parties. Newcastle voted against the proposal and City abstained, due to doubts over whether the ban is legally enforceable and the speed with which the restriction was being introduced. The tone of some of the other correspondence between the clubs this week also raised eyebrows, particularly the tendency to lump Newcastle and City together due to their ownership groups — Saudi Arabia and Abu Dhabi respectively. They won’t be wanting that juicy BEin Sports money anymore then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 31 minutes ago, mrmojorisin75 said: Yeah that rang a bell with me, I thought around the £200m mark for some reason. I mean you'd think that'd probably do for the next couple of windows Especially as it's profit and not cash. Any transfers etc will be depreciated over 5 or so seasons so that's a huge amount in reality. Assuming new sponsorship in place by year 3 to offset then we're golden. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ben said: Simon Jordan said if we spread the transfer fee over the length of a players contract it could be a lot more That’s how it works anyway, if you spend £100m on 5 players on 5 year contracts it only counts as £20m per season toward the FFP cap, the trouble comes if you keep spending £150m+ Year on year as by the time you get to year 3 your hitting the FFP ceiling, this is why it’s important to spend well. (this is what has happened to Everton this season, lots to spend but would break FFP rules if they did because of poor spending in year 1 and 2 ) the way round it is to give longer contracts 6-7 years because that then spreads the FFP rule over a longer term ie £20m toward FFP per season would become just over £14m per season Edited October 23, 2021 by nufcnick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 The other clubs really are running scared arnt they Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Who actually benefits from FFP ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 28 minutes ago, POOT 2.0 said: Good job it's the shit-head agents that really run the transfer scene. Well apparently it would be illegal to conspire against us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 I'm sure clubs in outer countries will take our money for players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 6 hours ago, Hanshithispantz said: So do the likes of West Ham and Villa think this will help them bridge the gap between them and City? I mean footballs fucked, this is all completely vile and I wish none of it had ever happened and we were back to the 90s, but since the rift in money between the clubs has gotten to this point their only hope of ever competing is to go down the same route we have. We'll be fine, there's no way they will be able to legally put in place enough roadblocks at this point, but they might be in place if ISIS or some other conglomerate ever purchase them, in which case they're really just fucking themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Bailey Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 The utter state of the alleged response of some of these clubs is hilarious. Their fans should be fucking embarrassed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 I'd rather we just signed Ajax's full starting XI anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 4 hours ago, nufcnick said: That’s how it works anyway, if you spend £100m on 5 players on 5 year contracts it only counts as £20m per season toward the FFP cap, the trouble comes if you keep spending £150m+ Year on year as by the time you get to year 3 your hitting the FFP ceiling, this is why it’s important to spend well. (this is what has happened to Everton this season, lots to spend but would break FFP rules if they did because of poor spending in year 1 and 2 ) the way round it is to give longer contracts 6-7 years because that then spreads the FFP rule over a longer term ie £20m toward FFP per season would become just over £14m per season Can we just give players 100 year contracts with a break option at 3 years then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Maybe we should have kept Bruce. That infinite contract would sort us out, nee problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 I wonder how long we’ll have our current badge for, I can’t see it surviving past next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_F Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Joe_F said: Is that from today's game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_F Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, TRon said: Is that from today's game? Aye Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Thought it would just be the bigger clubs who would be pissed off, quite surprised that little Crystal Palace fans are also seething with jealousy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, TRon said: Thought it would just be the bigger clubs who would be pissed off, quite surprised that little Crystal Palace fans are also seething with jealousy. The Palace fans who have had Simon Jordan and Steve Parish as owners/fans? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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