Toon No9 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 27 minutes ago, GWN said: There is not one player I want at the club bar Wilson and Tripps The lot of them know they will soon be out and are playing like it This is what's worrying me. Most of the players know that either we survive or go down most of them will be replaced in the summer. That may not make them work as hard as we need to stay up. Need to get the spine of the team in place now in january. Hopefully the game tonight will work as a motivator to the players for the upcoming games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 These players, if they have any hope of continuing their careers after nufc can't just down tools. Barely any of them will just waltz into another team on the back of this very public and humiliating relegation. They're not of wijnaldum quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) It’s a fucking mess, Ashley and Bruce have left the club on it’s knees. Losing is now ingrained in the mentality of the club and we don’t even know how to beat a league 1 side. The whole mentality of the club needs reset and it’s going to take time. What does concern me currently is Nickson running the scouting, he’s responsible for Almiron and Joelinton and shouldn’t be near recommending players. Tripppier was a no brainer, but if where going for overseas targets, this cunts recommendations concern me massively. Massive rebuild needed and they’ll deserve huge plaudits if they get us out of this. Edited January 8, 2022 by Whitley mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 13 minutes ago, Toon No9 said: This is what's worrying me. Most of the players know that either we survive or go down most of them will be replaced in the summer. That may not make them work as hard as we need to stay up. Need to get the spine of the team in place now in january. Hopefully the game tonight will work as a motivator to the players for the upcoming games. Going to be a case where there’s a ridiculous bonus offered just for getting to 17th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: It’s a fucking mess, Ashley and Bruce have left the club on it’s knees. Losing is now ingrained in the mentality of the club and we don’t even know how to beat a league 1 side. The whole mentality of the club needs reset and it’s going to take time. What does concern me currently is Nickson running the scouting, he’s responsible for Almiron and Joelinton and shouldn’t be near recommending players. Tripppier was a no brainer, but if where going for overseas targets, this cunts recommendations concern me massively. Massive rebuild needed and they’ll deserve huge plaudits if they get us out of this. I do agree with you, but wasn’t Almiron Rafa’s idea? I do hope we replace Nickson though, I’m sure we will when we get a DoF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Danh1 said: I do agree with you, but wasn’t Almiron Rafa’s idea? I do hope we replace Nickson though, I’m sure we will when we get a DoF. Possibly, I think Nickson spent a longtime working on the Almiron deal though. Agreed, we desperately need someone in to oversee the football operation who knows what they’re doing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 The players have been conditioned into staying goalside and not taking risks for several years now. Getting ahead of the ball and making an aggressive run has been drilled out out them, none of them take risks, none of them move from their zones, it's rigid and also means we're a fucking dream to play against. The whole mentality of the squad needs to change, "pass and move" is simple but it's been so long since players were looking to get forward that attitude has vanished. It's now "pass and stay", zero ambition, uncreative, miserable and ultimately ineffective football. This is Howe's biggest challenge. Get them to actually get on the ball and play football and take a few risks, be more ambitious on the pitch and ask some questions of the opposition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, midds said: The players have been conditioned into staying goalside and not taking risks for several years now. Getting ahead of the ball and making an aggressive run has been drilled out out them, none of them take risks, none of them move from their zones, it's rigid and also means we're a fucking dream to play against. The whole mentality of the squad needs to change, "pass and move" is simple but it's been so long since players were looking to get forward that attitude has vanished. It's now "pass and stay", zero ambition, uncreative, miserable and ultimately ineffective football. This is Howe's biggest challenge. Get them to actually get on the ball and play football and take a few risks, be more ambitious on the pitch and ask some questions of the opposition. I’ve never seen a group of players more terrified of shooting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 What I would pay to read the new owners thoughts right now. Had they planned a relegation contingency and are comfortable if not a bit irked if it happens. Had they not even considered relegation and thought we could stave it off and are now getting cold feet. I know it's cliche, but only Newcastle could defy relegation season after season with dross, then get taken over and it becoming an almost guarantee to go down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Was just thinking that this morning. Would love to be a fly on the wall in the board room after a performance like that yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Rich said: Was just thinking that this morning. Would love to be a fly on the wall in the board room after a performance like that yesterday. Staveley looks like she is shitting herself every time the camera zooms onto the directors box. She could well be on borrowed time if things don’t start improving very soon, as I can’t see the Saudis being very happy at current events. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Relegation will be a disaster, but if it happens and it's enough to make PIF want to get shot of us then it would show that the "we are patient investors" stuff was just bluster and they just saw us as something to improve for a bit and then flip for a profit. I hope that isn't the case but there is that nagging feeling that if the worst happens then they might just look to move on. It would be so NUFC for it to happen too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Chris Waugh has always said that whilst relegation would be shite, it wouldn’t make the consortium any less determined to make a success of things. So I’m not too worried about that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, et tu brute said: Staveley looks like she is shitting herself every time the camera zooms onto the directors box. She could well be on borrowed time if things don’t start improving very soon, as I can’t see the Saudis being very happy at current events. I think it would be really harsh to give her the boot based on what has happened so far. Mistakes have been made, and I don't think she has been ruthless enough, but she has transformed the club's PR and that cannot be underestimated. She needs to put a rocket under everyone at the club now though, and that includes Howe because that result yesterday was completely unacceptable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Just now, Wandy said: I think it would be really harsh to give her the boot based on what has happened so far. Mistakes have been made, and I don't think she has been ruthless enough, but she has transformed the club's PR and that cannot be underestimated. She needs to put a rocket under everyone at the club now though, and that includes Howe because that result yesterday was completely unacceptable. Maybe harsh, but the Saudis won’t let it keep running the way it currently is. The club’s PR is secondary to what happens on the pitch, and I personally see very little/no improvement in that area. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 9 minutes ago, Wandy said: Relegation will be a disaster, but if it happens and it's enough to make PIF want to get shot of us then it would show that the "we are patient investors" stuff was just bluster and they just saw us as something to improve for a bit and then flip for a profit. I hope that isn't the case but there is that nagging feeling that if the worst happens then they might just look to move on. It would be so NUFC for it to happen too. If we got relegated and they sold us they'd make a massive loss, why on earth would they do that? Even if we accept they don't intend on chucking lots of money at us and it is indeed a sensible investment which they are seeking a return on, then how is taking a big loss in less than a year on the club fit within that investment? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Just now, et tu brute said: Maybe harsh, but the Saudis won’t let it keep running the way it currently is. The club’s PR is secondary to what happens on the pitch, and I personally see very little/no improvement in that area. She deserves till the end of the season though at least. She has simply got to get another 4 players in this month though, including a top class striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Just now, Geordie Ahmed said: If we got relegated and they sold us they'd make a massive loss, why on earth would they do that? Even if we accept they don't intend on chucking lots of money at us and it is indeed a sensible investment which they are seeking a return on, then how is taking a big loss in less than a year on the club fit within that investment? Fair point. But they might just think its better to take that loss when considering all of the factors that are going against them. The entire PL hate us and will attempt to do even more stuff to prevent our progress while we are out of the league. The Saudis might just cut their losses based on that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Wandy said: She deserves till the end of the season though at least. She has simply got to get another 4 players in this month though, including a top class striker. She will probably get that, let’s see with the signings though, as when the likes of Wood are being mentioned as targets, then that is a big concern to me. Time will tell though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzaschicken Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 . Wait why are we talking about Staveley getting the boot? Last time I checked she wasn't the one managing the shite group of players we have. Or kicking the ball about the field. The only thing that would work against her would be if we didn't get any players in in January but by the looks of the players we are going for that's not likely OR she told PIF this team could stay up with no investment which I would be certain she hasn't said. The Saudis selling us for a loss in the championship would be shown as a sign of weakness there is no way they would do that. They will try and make our club a 2bn quid club they aren't going to sell cause we may be worth 150m in 5 months. And let's be Frank we've been tipped for relegation since they started looking at us so its no surprise to them we are where we are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Gazzaschicken said: . Wait why are we talking about Staveley getting the boot? Last time I checked she wasn't the one managing the shite group of players we have. Or kicking the ball about the field. The only thing that would work against her would be if we didn't get any players in in January but by the looks of the players we are going for that's not likely OR she told PIF this team could stay up with no investment which I would be certain she hasn't said. The Saudis selling us for a loss in the championship would be shown as a sign of weakness there is no way they would do that. They will try and make our club a 2bn quid club they aren't going to sell cause we may be worth 150m in 5 months. And let's be Frank we've been tipped for relegation since they started looking at us so its no surprise to them we are where we are. Who’s frank and can he play upfront ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Talking about giving Amanda Staveley the boot. Come on man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 She's part fucking owner of the club so unless she decides to boot herself i think PIF are quite happy with letting her run things on their behalf, they don't want to be in the face of it as all this will bring is political questions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, Robster said: Talking about giving Amanda Staveley the boot. Come on man. A new low And I get shit for calling this place knee-jerk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomson Mouse Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 19 hours ago, LV said: Athletic saying Stavely, Mehrdad and Al-Rumayyan went into the dressing room to talk to the players after the match. And saw Howe and his coaching team separately. Apparently it was to show their support for the team but it does seem like there could be something more to it. Edit: I’m not alluding to any sacking or owt like that. Maybe just a reminder to all of who’s in charge and that the players need to perform Hopefully it was a ‘if you don’t want to be here, fuck off and we’ll pay you out. We don’t need you stinking out the squad’ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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