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27 minutes ago, GWN said:

There is not one player I want at the club bar Wilson and Tripps 

 

The lot of them know they will soon be out and are playing like it

 

 

 

This is what's worrying me. Most of the players know that either we survive or go down most of them will be replaced in the summer. That may not make them work as hard as we need to stay up.

 

Need to get the spine of the team in place now in january.

 

Hopefully the game tonight will work as a motivator to the players for the upcoming games.

 

 

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These players, if they have any hope of continuing their careers after nufc can't just down tools.

 

Barely any of them will just waltz into another team on the back of this very public and humiliating relegation. 

 

They're not of wijnaldum quality.

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It’s a fucking mess, Ashley and Bruce have left the club on it’s knees. Losing is now ingrained in the mentality of the club and we don’t even know how to beat a league 1 side. 
 

The whole mentality of the club needs reset and it’s going to take time. What does concern me currently is Nickson running the scouting, he’s responsible for Almiron and Joelinton and shouldn’t be near recommending players. Tripppier was a no brainer, but if where going for overseas targets, this cunts recommendations concern me massively.

 

Massive rebuild needed and they’ll deserve huge plaudits if they get us out of this. 

 

 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Toon No9 said:

This is what's worrying me. Most of the players know that either we survive or go down most of them will be replaced in the summer. That may not make them work as hard as we need to stay up.

 

Need to get the spine of the team in place now in january.

 

Hopefully the game tonight will work as a motivator to the players for the upcoming games.

 

 


Going to be a case where there’s a ridiculous bonus offered just for getting to 17th.

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2 minutes ago, Whitley mag said:

It’s a fucking mess, Ashley and Bruce have left the club on it’s knees. Losing is now ingrained in the mentality of the club and we don’t even know how to beat a league 1 side. 
 

The whole mentality of the club needs reset and it’s going to take time. What does concern me currently is Nickson running the scouting, he’s responsible for Almiron and Joelinton and shouldn’t be near recommending players. Tripppier was a no brainer, but if where going for overseas targets, this cunts recommendations concern me massively.

 

Massive rebuild needed and they’ll deserve huge plaudits if they get us out of this. 

 

 

 

 

 

I do agree with you, but wasn’t Almiron Rafa’s idea?

 

I do hope we replace Nickson though, I’m sure we will when we get a DoF. 

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2 minutes ago, Danh1 said:

I do agree with you, but wasn’t Almiron Rafa’s idea?

 

I do hope we replace Nickson though, I’m sure we will when we get a DoF. 

Possibly, I think Nickson spent a longtime working on the Almiron deal though.

 

Agreed, we desperately need someone in to oversee the football operation who knows what they’re doing. 
 

 

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The players have been conditioned into staying goalside and not taking risks for several years now. Getting ahead of the ball and making an aggressive run has  been drilled out out them, none of them take risks, none of them move from their zones, it's rigid and also means we're a fucking dream to play against. 

 

The whole mentality of the squad needs to change, "pass and move" is simple but it's been so long since players were looking to get forward that attitude has vanished. It's now "pass and stay", zero ambition, uncreative, miserable and ultimately ineffective football. This is Howe's biggest challenge. Get them to actually get on the ball and play football and take a few risks, be more ambitious on the pitch and ask some questions of the opposition. 

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4 minutes ago, midds said:

The players have been conditioned into staying goalside and not taking risks for several years now. Getting ahead of the ball and making an aggressive run has  been drilled out out them, none of them take risks, none of them move from their zones, it's rigid and also means we're a fucking dream to play against. 

 

The whole mentality of the squad needs to change, "pass and move" is simple but it's been so long since players were looking to get forward that attitude has vanished. It's now "pass and stay", zero ambition, uncreative, miserable and ultimately ineffective football. This is Howe's biggest challenge. Get them to actually get on the ball and play football and take a few risks, be more ambitious on the pitch and ask some questions of the opposition. 


I’ve never seen a group of players more terrified of shooting.

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What I would pay to read the new owners thoughts right now.

 

Had they planned a relegation contingency and are comfortable if not a bit irked if it happens.

 

Had they not even considered relegation and thought we could stave it off and are now getting cold feet.

 

I know it's cliche, but only Newcastle could defy relegation season after season with dross, then get taken over and it becoming an almost guarantee to go down[emoji38]

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1 minute ago, Rich said:

Was just thinking that this morning. Would love to be a fly on the wall in the board room after a performance like that yesterday.


Staveley looks like she is shitting herself every time the camera zooms onto the directors box. She could well be on borrowed time if things don’t start improving very soon, as I can’t see the Saudis being very happy at current events. 

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Relegation will be a disaster, but if it happens and it's enough to make PIF want to get shot of us then it would show that the "we are patient investors" stuff was just bluster and they just saw us as something to improve for a bit and then flip for a profit. I hope that isn't the case but there is that nagging feeling that if the worst happens then they might just look to move on. It would be so NUFC for it to happen too.

 

 

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Chris Waugh has always said that whilst relegation would be shite, it wouldn’t make the consortium any less determined to make a success of things. So I’m not too worried about that.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, et tu brute said:


Staveley looks like she is shitting herself every time the camera zooms onto the directors box. She could well be on borrowed time if things don’t start improving very soon, as I can’t see the Saudis being very happy at current events. 

 

I think it would be really harsh to give her the boot based on what has happened so far. Mistakes have been made, and I don't think she has been ruthless enough, but she has transformed the club's PR and that cannot be underestimated. She needs to put a rocket under everyone at the club now though, and that includes Howe because that result yesterday was completely unacceptable.

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Just now, Wandy said:

 

I think it would be really harsh to give her the boot based on what has happened so far. Mistakes have been made, and I don't think she has been ruthless enough, but she has transformed the club's PR and that cannot be underestimated. She needs to put a rocket under everyone at the club now though, and that includes Howe because that result yesterday was completely unacceptable.


Maybe harsh, but the Saudis won’t let it keep running the way it currently is. The club’s PR is secondary to what happens on the pitch, and I personally see very little/no improvement in that area.

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9 minutes ago, Wandy said:

Relegation will be a disaster, but if it happens and it's enough to make PIF want to get shot of us then it would show that the "we are patient investors" stuff was just bluster and they just saw us as something to improve for a bit and then flip for a profit. I hope that isn't the case but there is that nagging feeling that if the worst happens then they might just look to move on. It would be so NUFC for it to happen too.

 

 

If we got relegated and they sold us they'd make a massive loss, why on earth would they do that? 

 

Even if we accept they don't intend on chucking lots of money at us and it is indeed a sensible investment which they are seeking a return on, then how is taking a big loss in less than a year on the club fit within that investment? 

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Just now, et tu brute said:


Maybe harsh, but the Saudis won’t let it keep running the way it currently is. The club’s PR is secondary to what happens on the pitch, and I personally see very little/no improvement in that area.

 

She deserves till the end of the season though at least. She has simply got to get another 4 players in this month though, including a top class striker.

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Just now, Geordie Ahmed said:

If we got relegated and they sold us they'd make a massive loss, why on earth would they do that? 

 

Even if we accept they don't intend on chucking lots of money at us and it is indeed a sensible investment which they are seeking a return on, then how is taking a big loss in less than a year on the club fit within that investment? 

 

Fair point. But they might just think its better to take that loss when considering all of the factors that are going against them. The entire PL hate us and will attempt to do even more stuff to prevent our progress while we are out of the league. The Saudis might just cut their losses based on that.

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1 minute ago, Wandy said:

 

She deserves till the end of the season though at least. She has simply got to get another 4 players in this month though, including a top class striker.


She will probably get that, let’s see with the signings though, as when the likes of Wood are being mentioned as targets, then that is a big concern to me. Time will tell though.

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. Wait why are we talking about Staveley getting the boot? Last time I checked she wasn't the one managing the shite group of players we have. Or kicking the ball about the field. The only thing that would work against her would be if we didn't get any players in in January but by the looks of the players we are going for that's not likely OR she told PIF this team could stay up with no investment which I would be certain she hasn't said. 

 

The Saudis selling us for a loss in the championship would be shown as a sign of weakness there is no way they would do that. They will try and make our club a 2bn quid club they aren't going to sell cause we may be worth 150m in 5 months. And let's be Frank we've been tipped for relegation since they started looking at us so its no surprise to them we are where we are. 

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1 minute ago, Gazzaschicken said:

. Wait why are we talking about Staveley getting the boot? Last time I checked she wasn't the one managing the shite group of players we have. Or kicking the ball about the field. The only thing that would work against her would be if we didn't get any players in in January but by the looks of the players we are going for that's not likely OR she told PIF this team could stay up with no investment which I would be certain she hasn't said. 

 

The Saudis selling us for a loss in the championship would be shown as a sign of weakness there is no way they would do that. They will try and make our club a 2bn quid club they aren't going to sell cause we may be worth 150m in 5 months. And let's be Frank we've been tipped for relegation since they started looking at us so its no surprise to them we are where we are. 

Who’s frank and can he play upfront ?

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19 hours ago, LV said:

Athletic saying Stavely, Mehrdad and Al-Rumayyan went into the dressing room to talk to the players after the match. And saw Howe and his coaching team separately.

 

Apparently it was to show their support for the team but it does seem like there could be something more to it.


Edit: I’m not alluding to any sacking or owt like that. Maybe just a reminder to all of who’s in charge and that the players need to perform 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hopefully it was a ‘if you don’t want to be here, fuck off and we’ll pay you out. We don’t need you stinking out the squad’

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