Dr Jinx Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 21 hours ago, Charlies said: From the Chronic: New Toon director Majed Al Sorour certainly enjoyed himself on Monday night during the 2-0 win over Arsenal as he celebrated with players and fans alike following the terrific evening against the Gunners. Afterwards, he took to his Linkedin account and stated: "Next season will be better". In the past Newcastle's top brass have tried to manage expectations and not allow people to get carried away. But it should be noted that there is not only bright ambition at St James' Park these days, there is also a calmness when it comes to doing business. Eddie Howe hinted at that this week when saying United would wait for the right deals. When replying to another fan on his social account Al Sorour spoke about the vision at the club in their bid to reach the top, commenting: "We will do whatever it takes." This is exactly what he said.. and also surprised nothing was said that there were members of the Royal family there on Monday… ”What an incredible win Walking the pitch, saying thank you to the fans, the coaches And the players was beautiful expression of content. Next season will be better Your royal highness Prince Khalid bn bander our ambassador to the UK thanks for attending the match with your wife. Jamie Rubein, Amanda And Mehrdad, what an amazing end for a home game Mr Chiarman yasir Al Rumayyan Thank you for your trust on me and wish you were here with us on an amazing win #nufc #premierleague #newcastle #vision2030 #saudiarabia #saudivision2030” And then his replies in the comments were We will do all it takes Very soon we will turn to the city and the area together and make them all better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted May 22, 2022 Share Posted May 22, 2022 100% we'd have been one of the teams relegated if this takeover hadn't have happened. In the nick of time... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbthree3 Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/may/24/government-did-encourage-premier-league-to-approve-saudi-newcastle-takeover?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other Boris Johnson’s government worked for months to encourage the Premier League to approve the controversial Saudi Arabia-backed takeover of Newcastle United, a Guardian investigation can reveal. Grimstone’s work appears to have extended as far as trying to broker a solution to the Saudi piracy of Premier League and other sports TV rights bought by the Qatari broadcaster BeIN, which was seen as a barrier to the takeover being approved. I don't think it's anything we didn't know before? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC_Chris Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 It’s all irrelevant, just more hand wringing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbthree3 Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 "However the Premier League did not approve the takeover then, and only did a year later after the PIF provided “legally binding assurances that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia will not control Newcastle United”. Although some Premier League clubs were incensed this was accepted, sources close to the process have explained that the assurances did make a crucial difference to the legal advice, so that KSA was no longer considered a controlling party." Reason the takeover happened when it did Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 More Guardian drivel it was Grimstones role to facilitate inward investment, of course he’d be asking questions why it had been blocked. The whole of Tyneside demanded to know why it had been blocked it was in the public interest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 (edited) On 06/05/2022 at 13:28, nbthree3 said: Update on the application: It all seemed to be going swimmingly, until yesterday when comments came in from the Council’s ecology and landscape officers. There is the potential for a bat roost within the buildings and surveys will need to be carried out to check for bats. The ecological impact assessment submitted by the architect actually recommends that the surveys are needed, but it seems that they haven’t been carried out and submitted with the application. That’s a frustratingly common oversight, I suspect most architects/agents don't actually read those reports before submitting them. There are also a couple of trees that will need to be removed to make way for the extensions but the architect has not submitted a tree survey, that will need to be done, submitted and assessed. Another frustratingly common oversight. There has also been Japanese Knotweed identified in the area of the extensions and further survey work and a remediation scheme will be needed for that, which will probably be conditioned but with a pre-commencement condition. Which will result in needing to make a discharge of conditions application before starting. Very unlikely they’re going to be able to start this summer now. If a bat roost is identified it isn't necessarily terminal to the application, but would at least delay things further if it would be disturbed, which would require a licence from Natural England. Edited May 24, 2022 by Jackie Broon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Sounds like they've went in blind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 13 minutes ago, Wilson said: Sounds like they've went in blind. So nar then ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Is this sort of investment ok ? Can the Saudis just pump money in as Capital Investment ? Or does the Top 6 have different rules ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 They can pump in as much capital as they like, but from a FFP point of view they can only have £105m losses over three years - so they have to pick and choose what they spend it on etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 19 minutes ago, Ben said: Is this sort of investment ok ? Can the Saudis just pump money in as Capital Investment ? Or does the Top 6 have different rules ? Yeah they can, that in itself isn't against the rules as long as its covered by income (which it will be due to them being in the CL next season) FFP is just a stripped down version of profit & loss and capital investment doesn't count as income so they can't just pump money in and say "Look, we made an extra £150m!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 FFP is shite like. If this had been around from the start of the PL era then Blackburn wouldn’t have happened, the Keegan era wouldn’t have happened, Chelsea & Man City wouldn’t have happened to the extent it did. The champions for the last 30 years would likely have just been Man U, Arsenal & Liverpool. Get to fuck. If an owner wants to pump their own cash in then they should be allowed. It’s the opposite they should be clamping down on, ie, owners taking money out of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztoon Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: FFP is shite like. If this had been around from the start of the PL era then Blackburn wouldn’t have happened, the Keegan era wouldn’t have happened, Chelsea & Man City wouldn’t have happened to the extent it did. The champions for the last 30 years would likely have just been Man U, Arsenal & Liverpool. Get to fuck. If an owner wants to pump their own cash in then they should be allowed. It’s the opposite they should be clamping down on, ie, owners taking money out of it. Totally agree Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 7 hours ago, Jackie Broon said: Update on the application: It all seemed to be going swimmingly, until yesterday when comments came in from the Council’s ecology and landscape officers. There is the potential for a bat roost within the buildings and surveys will need to be carried out to check for bats. The ecological impact assessment submitted by the architect actually recommends that the surveys are needed, but it seems that they haven’t been carried out and submitted with the application. That’s a frustratingly common oversight, I suspect most architects/agents don't actually read those reports before submitting them. There are also a couple of trees that will need to be removed to make way for the extensions but the architect has not submitted a tree survey, that will need to be done, submitted and assessed. Another frustratingly common oversight. There has also been Japanese Knotweed identified in the area of the extensions and further survey work and a remediation scheme will be needed for that, which will probably be conditioned but with a pre-commencement condition. Which will result in needing to make a discharge of conditions application before starting. Very unlikely they’re going to be able to start this summer now. If a bat roost is identified it isn't necessarily terminal to the application, but would at least delay things further if it would be disturbed, which would require a licence from Natural England. Me and my lass were part of the bat survey before Spanish City was upgraded and I think it delayed things by about a month IIRC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztoon Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Feck FFP anyway, budget for the fine and blow everyone out the water. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Gaztoon said: Feck FFP anyway, budget for the fine and blow everyone out the water. Fines aren’t the problem though, points deductions for breach of FFP are and the PL would use points deductions against us if we breached FFP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, FloydianMag said: Fines aren’t the problem though, points deductions for breach of FFP are and the PL would use points deductions against us if we breached FFP. Have they done it to anyone as of yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Even if the PL didn’t, UEFA will bar us from European competition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Optimistic Nut said: Even if the PL didn’t, UEFA will bar us from European competition. When that has happened to other clubs it's been knocked back as soon as it has went to the CAS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztoon Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 I don't know the ins and outs of this FFP. But could it be classed as a restriction of trade ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 43 minutes ago, NE27 said: Have they done it to anyone as of yet? No, you just know they’d enjoy implementing a points deduction if we breached FFP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, Gaztoon said: I don't know the ins and outs of this FFP. But could it be classed as a restriction of trade ? Some legal people believe it is a restriction on trade. Needs to be tested in court. Arguably transfer windows could be deemed the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Optimistic Nut said: FFP is shite like. If this had been around from the start of the PL era then Blackburn wouldn’t have happened, the Keegan era wouldn’t have happened, Chelsea & Man City wouldn’t have happened to the extent it did. The champions for the last 30 years would likely have just been Man U, Arsenal & Liverpool. Get to fuck. If an owner wants to pump their own cash in then they should be allowed. It’s the opposite they should be clamping down on, ie, owners taking money out of it. Absolutely, that's the whole point too. It's yet another way that the league has tried to pull the ladder up on the sly, championing it as fairness. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztoon Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, FloydianMag said: Some legal people believe it is a restriction on trade. Needs to be tested in court. Arguably transfer windows could be deemed the same. Thats why they will never give points deductions. It would last two mins in court Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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