Menace Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 I think you're absolutely right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 Hardly. They got a scrap metal business that hit the jackpot when the Soviet Union collapsed. One of them also bought the biggest carpet shop in the U.K. for next to nothing when it went into administration. They also bought property cheaply in London and sold it on to rich Russians after the collapse of the Soviet Union. One of them never even finished high school. They massively lucked out, and would be worth nowhere near as much as they are now if the Soviet Union didn’t collapse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 11 minutes ago, Ash2579 said: They are Tory doners, but so what? I mean, I don’t like them either, but I draw the line at spit roasting them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, Stifler said: Hardly. They got a scrap metal business that hit the jackpot when the Soviet Union collapsed. One of them also bought the biggest carpet shop in the U.K. for next to nothing when it went into administration. They also bought property cheaply in London and sold it on to rich Russians after the collapse of the Soviet Union. One of them never even finished high school. They massively lucked out, and would be worth nowhere near as much as they are now if the Soviet Union didn’t collapse. Surely being that wealthy can't be entirely down to luck though. People get lucky breaks all the time, not sure everyone knows when or how to capitalise. Not sure what finishing high school has to do with it either, isn't history littered with successful people not being the most academic? Either way, I've no horse in this race. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 People also confuse successful business people with people who just happen to have connections. The vast majority of wealthy people likely already know someone inside an industry etc, and that’s how they have got their wealth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 As soon as I knew the Reubens were involved in the takeover, I was well aware of them because of their construction and development work in the City Centre, I knew that they (along with PCP and PIF) would succeed with the takeover and then we would become a successful club. We are very lucky to have Jamie Reuben as part owner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 9 hours ago, Stifler said: Been discussed in news articles, and also we can’t tell them that this will be the last year. If there is a contract with no break clauses, then there will be little that we could do, unless we compensate them. That’s fine and as I said, people don’t have to believe me and I’m happy to keep titbits around this sort of thing to myself going forward. The source is impeccable. Castore are done after this season and adidas will replace them. All agreed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Matt1892 said: That’s fine and as I said, people don’t have to believe me and I’m happy to keep titbits around this sort of thing to myself going forward. The source is impeccable. Castore are done after this season and adidas will replace them. All agreed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, Matt1892 said: That’s fine and as I said, people don’t have to believe me and I’m happy to keep titbits around this sort of thing to myself going forward. The source is impeccable. Castore are done after this season and adidas will replace them. All agreed. I’m not saying that I don’t believe you when it will be Castore’s last season, what I’m saying is that it’s not as simple as telling them they are done and that’s it. If it was then we would have done it last season with both Castore and Fun88. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 I think our majority owners can get their own way if they put their mind to it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 25 minutes ago, Stifler said: People also confuse successful business people with people who just happen to have connections. The vast majority of wealthy people likely already know someone inside an industry etc, and that’s how they have got their wealth. I’m sorry like, you’re spouting absolute gibberish. Typical jealous woe-is-me gibberish. I only know 3 people I’d consider “wealthy” and all 3 grafted their bollocks off for years starting their own businesses, networking, building an infrastructure and 2 of them now employ over 100 people. 1 of them left school at 14. I have no idea about the Reubens, but to suggest it’s all just luck is absolute bollocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 1 minute ago, Shadow Puppets said: I’m sorry like, you’re spouting absolute gibberish. Typical jealous woe-is-me gibberish. I only know 3 people I’d consider “wealthy” and all 3 grafted their bollocks off for years starting their own businesses, networking, building an infrastructure and 2 of them now employ over 100 people. 1 of them left school at 14. I have no idea about the Reubens, but to suggest it’s all just luck is absolute bollocks. I’m on about massively wealthy people. Of course there are loads of hard working people who have made successfully businesses, I’m not saying there isn’t. However there is a vast difference between a successful business people employing over 100 people, and multibillionaires. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 Connections do help obviously but there’s graft involved in getting those connections; social climbing etc. and putting yourself out there to get in positions to rub shoulders with those kind of people isn’t easy. It’s also not a sure-thing with regards to getting success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 As an old colleague of mine used to say “Wallop, it’s not who you know, it’s who you blow” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 12 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said: I’m sorry like, you’re spouting absolute gibberish. Typical jealous woe-is-me gibberish. I only know 3 people I’d consider “wealthy” and all 3 grafted their bollocks off for years starting their own businesses, networking, building an infrastructure and 2 of them now employ over 100 people. 1 of them left school at 14. I have no idea about the Reubens, but to suggest it’s all just luck is absolute bollocks. Exactly. A lottery winner is sheer luck, someone amassing billions is not luck FFS, I don't think people realise how much money a billion actually is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infatuation Junkie Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 I honestly think if the reubens were not involved with the takeover. It wouldn’t have happened. Dont look a gift horse in the mouth and all that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Matt1892 said: That’s fine and as I said, people don’t have to believe me and I’m happy to keep titbits around this sort of thing to myself going forward. The source is impeccable. Castore are done after this season and adidas will replace them. All agreed. There’s probably a tipping point where the cost of paying up the contract is outweighed by the incoming kit deal. We’re 50% through Mike Ashley’s stupid deal, so the balance might have tipped or they might have a form of break clause. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Menace said: Exactly. A lottery winner is sheer luck, someone amassing billions is not luck FFS, I don't think people realise how much money a billion actually is. Hundreds of billions, IIRC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 It will be interesting to see if we find out more during the Amazon documentary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 2 hours ago, NE27 said: Surely being that wealthy can't be entirely down to luck though. Mike Ashley? The man is thick as fuck Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 21 minutes ago, gdm said: Mike Ashley? The man is thick as fuck There are always outliers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Matt1892 said: That’s fine and as I said, people don’t have to believe me and I’m happy to keep titbits around this sort of thing to myself going forward. The source is impeccable. Castore are done after this season and adidas will replace them. All agreed. Are we paying Castore off? Any word on how we’re ending it early with them? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, LV said: Are we paying Castore off? Any word on how we’re ending it early with them? Realistically it has to be that. Maybe 4 years was too expensive, or negligible benefit, but maybe three years and CL qualification starts to make it worthwhile. TBF Adidas will sell far more kit as for those of my generation the Drei Streifen is a lot more desirable than Castore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Matt1892 said: That’s fine and as I said, people don’t have to believe me and I’m happy to keep titbits around this sort of thing to myself going forward. The source is impeccable. Castore are done after this season and adidas will replace them. All agreed. TBF the source being impeccable is difficult to verify when both the source and the poster are anonymous. Though of course if you're right we won't have to wait until next summer to have it confirmed - it will leak shortly if this is the case (as it was with Fun88) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 Castore hit the jackpot whichever way you look at it. CL marketing for Mike Ashley budget. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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