TRon Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 7 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said: Yes, but even taking that out completely they've luped in a billion plus on us and demondtrated that without, or even with, massive ongoing investment we're not able to get anywhere near the established big 6 financially. It's pie in the sky to think we some sort of great investment financially, it doesn’t add up. I think the reasons they've invested in us are much more likely to be strategic / image based or just because influential people within PIF like football. Yep. This is why I am sceptical of fans who think we are somehow owed a brand new stadium, training ground and the rest. I hope we get them obviously, but if PIF aren't doing it, don't expect anyone who buys us to do it. It makes no financial sense at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 1 hour ago, Teasy said: I'm sure purchasing NUFC was a big part of the reason to resolve the piracy issue. I seriously doubt it was even close to the only reason. That £1 billion payment can't just be dumped on the club price in it's entirety. I do think they're committed to the club long term though. Because this is a long term investment fund so they aren't in this to flip quick profits. Their aim will be to keep driving the value of the club to help increase the value of the fund. They took action towards ending the piracy years before us. They had began to take away the boxes and block the signal before our takeover, and during our takeover saga they reinstated BeIN. The only thing they had left to do was pay the settlement fee which I think was going to happen with or without our takeover. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 New investor is Elon Musk once he launches SpaceX on the stock market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 DM - Saudi's considering selling a 'small' stake in Newcastle TheTime - Saudi's actively looking to sell a '25%' stake in Newcastle Actual - we've not a clue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 (edited) 10 hours ago, PauloGeordio said: Would love to have her and Mehrdad back. Not if it means US owners - when they become majority owners of PL clubs get ready for games in the States. Edited May 21 by duo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 4 hours ago, duo said: DM - Saudi's considering selling a 'small' stake in Newcastle TheTime - Saudi's actively looking to sell a '25%' stake in Newcastle Actual - we've not a clue I'm going with... Looking for another investor whilst keeping a majority share. Granted I know nothing about this kind of thing, but given the amount of investment that is still needed despite the amount currently being put in to every aspect of the club, I'm going to assume they're just being savvy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 It's been reported as loan to equity ratio related. It's also been reported that there was a plan to take out a loan to part fund infrastructure improvements. Not sure if those things are true, just the media reports. At a complete guess, I'd suspect that explains it, for a couple of possible reasons. Either to reduce that loan interest or to because you're running the club as a proper investment rather than a vanity project, as was claimed from the start. Might be wrong, usually am. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 City did a similar thing https://www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_/id/37579223/manchester-city-group-worth-48-billion-silver-lake-buy-10-percent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Sources say the continued injection of capital demonstrates PIF’s commitment, and they insist that talk this week of selling a stake in Newcastle was not instigated by them. Rather, it was an idea proposed by those close to institutional investors. If it did happen, say sources, it would only be a minority share with a view to raising funds towards infrastructural projects such as a new stadium and training ground. We are told any new investor would be very unlikely to have a major say in the running of the club. It also allows the ownership to quantify the club’s value. For example, a 10 per cent stake for £150m would value Newcastle at £1.5billion, five times its purchase price. Crucially, that puts the club in a position of strength with regards lending, as well as influencing sponsorship and commercial deals. In 2019, Manchester City announced that Silver Lake, an American private equity firm, had made a $500m (£373.2m) investment into the City Football Group. This equated to an 18 per cent stake. Sources have pointed to this - but not the numbers involved - as an example of the practice being common when it comes to global business with global revenues. It has been stressed that PIF are not looking to dilute their share to any significant level and the prospect of new equity investors does not mean they are looking to withdraw long term. On the contrary, sources believes it shows an ambition to deliver on key developments that will aid success on the pitch. Meanwhile, the acquisition of Leazes Terrace was first floated inside the club at the outset of Saudi ownership. To have control of those buildings, given they are the nearest residential addresses to St James’ Park and the proposed site of a new stadium on Leazes Park, is seen as a ‘no brainer’. Ownership of them gives the club greater flexibility and strategic positioning no matter which stadium option they pursue - be it a new build or expansion of St James’. Were it a new build, the longstanding plan for the site of St James’ has been parkland. However, one piece of information into Confidential this week is that the club have explored using the land in addition for bars, restaurants and retail options. If so, ownership of Leazes Terrace would be key. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 1 minute ago, PauloGeordio said: Sources say the continued injection of capital demonstrates PIF’s commitment, and they insist that talk this week of selling a stake in Newcastle was not instigated by them. Rather, it was an idea proposed by those close to institutional investors. If it did happen, say sources, it would only be a minority share with a view to raising funds towards infrastructural projects such as a new stadium and training ground. We are told any new investor would be very unlikely to have a major say in the running of the club. It also allows the ownership to quantify the club’s value. For example, a 10 per cent stake for £150m would value Newcastle at £1.5billion, five times its purchase price. Crucially, that puts the club in a position of strength with regards lending, as well as influencing sponsorship and commercial deals. In 2019, Manchester City announced that Silver Lake, an American private equity firm, had made a $500m (£373.2m) investment into the City Football Group. This equated to an 18 per cent stake. Sources have pointed to this - but not the numbers involved - as an example of the practice being common when it comes to global business with global revenues. It has been stressed that PIF are not looking to dilute their share to any significant level and the prospect of new equity investors does not mean they are looking to withdraw long term. On the contrary, sources believes it shows an ambition to deliver on key developments that will aid success on the pitch. Meanwhile, the acquisition of Leazes Terrace was first floated inside the club at the outset of Saudi ownership. To have control of those buildings, given they are the nearest residential addresses to St James’ Park and the proposed site of a new stadium on Leazes Park, is seen as a ‘no brainer’. Ownership of them gives the club greater flexibility and strategic positioning no matter which stadium option they pursue - be it a new build or expansion of St James’. Were it a new build, the longstanding plan for the site of St James’ has been parkland. However, one piece of information into Confidential this week is that the club have explored using the land in addition for bars, restaurants and retail options. If so, ownership of Leazes Terrace would be key. Some double speak here no? Talk of selling equity and that being leveraged for sponsorship deals is only a factor for related party deals which seems to have dried up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Just now, r0cafella said: Some double speak here no? Talk of selling equity and that being leveraged for sponsorship deals is only a factor for related party deals which seems to have dried up? Yeah, it is speculatory at the moment without all the facts. Time will tell, but the slow juggernaut moves on in a positive direction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curva Sud Milano Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Interesting article about the PL... It was known that the PL was burning more money than it earned but I didn't expect to find Liverpool among the only four teams with healthy finances. Chelsea's situation is disastrous with a deficit of €320 million; the teams' total losses in PL are €900 million. Newcastle, Aston Villa and Everton have remedied their losses with financial "tricks"... in short the situation resembles that of Serie A 20/25 years ago, I hope you don't suffer the same sad fate. https://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2026/05/22/premier-league-perdite-record-miliardo-notizie/8392376/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 If PIF really are looking to sell a stake I think the best case scenario is Amanda buying a chunk - be awesome to have her involved in the club again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Alleged that a party has approached PIF Could it be? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 (edited) Absolutely do not want us having any US private equity near us. Edited May 22 by El Prontonise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Americans are the worst thing to ever happen to football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 No offence to folk on here intended. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 4 minutes ago, Miggys First Goal said: Laughing at the fact he thinks our mercenaries will bother their arses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 13 minutes ago, Miggys First Goal said: There are a few decisions within your hands that you could take to show supporters you're serious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Feels like we’re basically starting from scratch next season. Be it with Eddie or another head coach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT24 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 I’m sure they’ll leak a non update report to Edwards about the stadium or training ground in coming weeks to keep us occupied. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 4 minutes ago, Miggys First Goal said: Feels like we’re basically starting from scratch next season. Be it with Eddie or another head coach. I think every team needs a major refresh over a four year cycle. Always remember Fergie being brutal and building three generations of a team over the years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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