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It’ll certainly be interesting to find out which clubs are the driver behind his resignation. I get the impression whilst the takeover was originally resisted by clubs in top 6, this has now grown due to relegation battle. 
 

They’d be wise to remember though that but for allowing this takeover, a lot more of their heads would now be on the chopping block in a U.K. court of law.

 

 

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From a 14 August 2020 Letter from Richard Masters to Chi Onwurah MP.

 

Is it true that several Premier League clubs objected to the takeover and what influence do the views of competing clubs have in the approval process?

 

The Owners' and Directors' test is delegated to and carried out entirely by the Premier League Board. Other member Clubs have no role whatsoever in the approval process.

 

So, this resignation is a mystery alright. :footy:

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1 minute ago, LV said:

I’m sure Qatar will sort him out with a nice job for their World Cup 

I mean he already works for companies over there and is also the chairman of Monzo. He’s not exactly short of a pay packet.

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I think a big part of the takeover going through was how well the QCs representing us did at the CAT hearing. The PL then thought 'shit, if this goes through to arbitration stuff is going to come out that we don't want to' so they said to PIF to just cancel all BeoutQ stuff, settle with beIN (which was possible as afaik KSA and Qatar have opened trade talks again) and we'll push it through, hence the short time between the CAT hearing, beIN settlement and the takeover happening.

 

And Hoffman going is probably more of the PL not wanting their dirty laundry out in public a la CAT/arbitration. 

 

Just a theory, like. :lol:

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1 hour ago, LV said:


There’s even folk in here who deny it.

 

 

 

Nobody is denying the other clubs probably voiced their displeasure at the takeover.

 

What is a load of bollocks (evidently by the fact we have been taken over), is the suggestion that any blockage in the takeover had anything to do with the other clubs’ thoughts.

 

It always was about piracy, from start to finish. Nothing whatsoever to do with cartels or fake ITKery.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Abacus said:

Then why is Hoffman apparently now having to resign?

 

After all, the piracy is resolved. Surely he has done a good job in that case.

 

So why would he need to go?

 

Because they didn’t get their own way, because there was never a ‘cartel’ and because they’re unhappy with the outcome.

 

It’s really not difficult to understand. They tried to stop it, but failed. Because ultimately the PL only cared about the piracy. 
 

Otherwise, why were we taken over a few days after the piracy was resolved if the cartel existed and the PL were protecting the big six?

 

If we ignore all sensible evidence and reports but listen to Keef on Twitter. Aye, it makes perfect sense.

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6 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said:

 

Because they didn’t get their own way, because there was never a ‘cartel’ and because they’re unhappy with the outcome.

 

It’s really not difficult to understand. They tried to stop it, but failed. Because ultimately the PL only cared about the piracy. 
 

Otherwise, why were we taken over a few days after the piracy was resolved if the cartel existed and the PL were protecting the big six?

 

If we ignore all sensible evidence and reports but listen to Keef on Twitter. Aye, it makes perfect sense.

It’s clearly very difficult for you to understand Fanny [emoji38]

 

 

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6 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said:

 

Because they didn’t get their own way, because there was never a ‘cartel’ and because they’re unhappy with the outcome.

 

It’s really not difficult to understand. They tried to stop it, but failed. Because ultimately the PL only cared about the piracy. 
 

Otherwise, why were we taken over a few days after the piracy was resolved if the cartel existed and the PL were protecting the big six?

 

If we ignore all sensible evidence and reports but listen to Keef on Twitter. Aye, it makes perfect sense.

You can believe what you like. I have my own theories on the piracy links, but that's all they are so I won't speculate.

 

But I would say that being unhappy with an outcome and then, on the back of that, being able to force a senior board level resignation from a process you aren't supposed to have any say in, looks a bit like you might have undue influence on the people who are supposed to be making those decisions impartially.

 

Anyhow, let's leave it there. I'm sure the truth will come out in the end. Either way, whole thing needs a clean up because it stinks no matter how you look at it.

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All the other PL clubs are mad because it was PIF/Saudi Arabia specifically that were allowed to buy us, right? Because of the human rights issues? Because they care so much? 

 

It's not because we became a threatening powerhouse overnight and they stand to lose money, right? 

 

So transparent ffs :lol:

 

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2 minutes ago, Peppe said:

All the other PL clubs are mad because it was PIF/Saudi Arabia specifically that were allowed to buy us, right? Because of the human rights issues? Because they care so much? 

 

It's not because we became a threatening powerhouse overnight and they stand to lose money, right? 

 

So transparent ffs :lol:

 

Apparently therefore based on stories like this, I’d expect them to also be questioning their own tv deal with Bein.

 

Human Rights concerns my fucking arse.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Haz said:

Sky News says the Top six clubs felt they had been Blindsided.

 

Excuse me? What the fuck has it to do with them?

 

Nothing according to Richard Masters, writing to Newcastle's Member of Parliament.

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28 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said:

I think a big part of the takeover going through was how well the QCs representing us did at the CAT hearing. The PL then thought 'shit, if this goes through to arbitration stuff is going to come out that we don't want to' so they said to PIF to just cancel all BeoutQ stuff, settle with beIN (which was possible as afaik KSA and Qatar have opened trade talks again) and we'll push it through, hence the short time between the CAT hearing, beIN settlement and the takeover happening.

 

And Hoffman going is probably more of the PL not wanting their dirty laundry out in public a la CAT/arbitration. 

 

Just a theory, like. :lol:

 

That's what I thought. To avoid exposing that certain clubs who tried to stuff everyone by leaving the league are actually still running the league and dictating who can be bought and how competitive they're allowed to be, they Had to let it go through.

Ironic and sweet justice really because I'm convinced if they'd got away with it, the effective blocking of a competitors takeover and rigging of their future by rivals - in a sport no less - would have been swept under the rug.

 

 

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I mean this BBC article just about confirms the only reason they wanted to stop this takeover. The arrogance and ignorance of competition rules is staggering.
 

“The 61-year-old, who has been the Premier League's chairman for 18 months, has taken the brunt of the blame from clubs over the green light being given to the takeover by the Public Investment Fund.

Although Premier League officials felt there was no option other than to allow the deal to go through 18 months after it was first halted, clubs were unhappy at being told about it so late that they could not mobilise an attempt to stop it.

Clubs have already started the process of stopping commercial deals associated with the ownership in an effort to reduce the amount of money Newcastle can spend, for fear it will distort the league.”

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59309807

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Hoffman was the Cartel 6's man.  He helped block the Newcastle takeover, he advised on the ESL, He gave Crouch the run around but when bits and pieces of his role was going to go public, he folded and relented on the takeover.  He's the fall guy.  He's casting about for sympathy but the Cartel 6 don't want him because he failed at his duties to them and the other clubs won't want him because they know he never had their best interests in mind.  

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