Teasy Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 30 minutes ago, gjohnson said: So what's to stop the PL and the other teams arguing that this is our 'market value"? Comparing the clubs fanbase, plus TV showings and viewing figures to other clubs and their sponsorship deals. The other clubs can argue whatever they want, but the argument that past deals have to be a firm guide for future deals would hold no water at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 1 hour ago, gjohnson said: So what's to stop the PL and the other teams arguing that this is our 'market value"? It's an idiotic argument to begin with as "market value" is quite clearly abstract. If I had a company and I thought it would give me value for my money to spend £100 mill on advertising at St. James' Park, that's the market value. What else is market value than what someone is willing to pay for something? Genuine question btw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Worth a watch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 I still can’t find any updates with regards to the restraint of trade sorry I meant sponsorship ban deadline? Any ideas if this has been extended? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 56 minutes ago, r0cafella said: I still can’t find any updates with regards to the restraint of trade sorry I meant sponsorship ban deadline? Any ideas if this has been extended? No, and the last two week extension is over today🤷🏼♂️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Surely they’ll just keep banning it until they make up new permanent rules. Otherwise what was the point of a temporary ban? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 1 minute ago, LV said: Surely they’ll just keep banning it until they make up new permanent rules. Otherwise what was the point of a temporary ban? We already threatened them with legal action over this. It’s very difficult for them to keep doing it indefinitely with such threats over them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 54 minutes ago, LV said: Surely they’ll just keep banning it until they make up new permanent rules. Otherwise what was the point of a temporary ban? I think you're giving them too much credit by implying they have a coherent plan for what they're doing. These are desperate pushes to find anyway to impede the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 27 minutes ago, wormy said: I think you're giving them too much credit by implying they have a coherent plan for what they're doing. These are desperate pushes to find anyway to impede the club. I agree they want to impede the club but I certainly don’t think they have a coherent plan. Hence the usual tactic of kicking the can down the road, because they can do that without any outside governance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 There's a Premier League meeting today for what it's worth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 I think the new framework is supposed to be announced today, with the clubs now able to submit the sponsor terms to the committee for review and the approvals are supposed to be very swift. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numbers Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 So are all the historical deals done by Man City etc up for Review? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Magpie said: So essentially the other 13 collectively realised that by stopping our sponsorships they'd be restricting themselves too? Expect a challenge on the fairness of the vote from 5 of the Rich 6 by the end of the day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Numbers said: So are all the historical deals done by Man City etc up for Review? Of course not. They are protected by these artificial glass ceilings put in place to protect the big 6. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 What is fair value? Man Utd currently have the biggest sponsorship. If we get the same money, is it fair value? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Just now, LRD said: What is fair value? Man Utd currently have the biggest sponsorship. If we get the same money, is it fair value? This is the next thing they throw the toys out of the pram at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 I think fair value is like-kind brand or type of business. So tyre sponsors have a range, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, LRD said: What is fair value? Man Utd currently have the biggest sponsorship. If we get the same money, is it fair value? Isn't most of their sponsorship only paid if they're successful in winning things? Certain i read that the full 750m from Chevrolet was conditional that they won the league and champions league or finished in the top 4 for the duration? Obviously they'll still get a stupid amount, but without a trophy to show in a few years it is probably a fair bit less. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Kanji said: I think fair value is like-kind brand or type of business. So tyre sponsors have a range, etc. so Aramco would likely be in the top range of sponsorship i.e £10’s of millions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, FloydianMag said: so Aramco would likely be in the top range of sponsorship i.e £10’s of millions. Could see Sabic being in or around, given their relatively local ties Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 All those tat shop signs down just in time for new sponsorship Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Meh. There's no way these rules won't massively restrict us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 The initial drama of the takeover seems to be dying down. Soon as 1 PL club trades with us then that threat goes out the window as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesteve710 Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 If nothing else, gives us scope to spend spend spend now and argue about it later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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