SEMTEX Posted July 14, 2025 Share Posted July 14, 2025 On 06/07/2025 at 15:18, gbandit said: Martin Mark? Can we trust someone with two first names? This is very disturbing Two of em now. Very unsettling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 14, 2025 Share Posted July 14, 2025 Just now, SEMTEX said: Two of em now. Very unsettling. Got them on the playing side a well so its OK. Alexander Isak, Anthony Gordon and if you wanted to stretch things Nick Pope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mag3.14 Posted July 14, 2025 Share Posted July 14, 2025 31 minutes ago, madras said: Got them on the playing side a well so its OK. Alexander Isak, Anthony Gordon and if you wanted to stretch things Nick Pope. Would be a lot more unsettling if we'd kept that Steve Bruce bloke... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 14, 2025 Share Posted July 14, 2025 Like to see us appointing people to roles which are associated with ambition and being proactive, but you do feel like - theoretically - you fill these positions after the SD is in place. My takeaway from this is; I wonder (not for the first time) what the whole point is of a SD. If you have faith in the individuals at the coal-face, just leave them to it and replace them if they're not up to scratch. Do wonder if the whole SD thing is a bit of a phase, and they won't be commonplace in 10/20 years time. The concept feels flawed to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted July 14, 2025 Share Posted July 14, 2025 3 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Like to see us appointing people to roles which are associated with ambition and being proactive, but you do feel like - theoretically - you fill these positions after the SD is in place. My takeaway from this is; I wonder (not for the first time) what the whole point is of a SD. If you have faith in the individuals at the coal-face, just leave them to it and replace them if they're not up to scratch. Do wonder if the whole SD thing is a bit of a phase, and they won't be commonplace in 10/20 years time. The concept feels flawed to me. Sounds more like the club is aligning to the manager rather than making a model for a head coach. They probably always were HC inclined, but Howe has done such a fantastic job, while showing up roles above him as spare parts, that at this point it's sbout giving him the people he can trust and be an extension of him, not a model he fits into. It's the biggest backing of a manager you'll see in recent times if we don't bring in a dof or sd. I'm all for it. No power struggle or games. All staff working towards the managers direction and strategy. Only problem is, you cannot afford to lose him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted July 14, 2025 Share Posted July 14, 2025 Just now, Dokko said: Sounds more like the club is aligning to the manager rather than making a model for a head coach. They probably always were HC inclined, but Howe has done such a fantastic job, while showing up roles above him as spare parts, that at this point it's sbout giving him the people he can trust and be an extension of him, not a model he fits into. It's the biggest backing of a manager you'll see in recent times if we don't bring in a dof or sd. I'm all for it. No power struggle or games. All staff working towards the managers direction and strategy. Only problem is, you cannot afford to lose him. Ross will report to a new SD; it's in the announcement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted July 14, 2025 Share Posted July 14, 2025 19 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Like to see us appointing people to roles which are associated with ambition and being proactive, but you do feel like - theoretically - you fill these positions after the SD is in place. My takeaway from this is; I wonder (not for the first time) what the whole point is of a SD. If you have faith in the individuals at the coal-face, just leave them to it and replace them if they're not up to scratch. Do wonder if the whole SD thing is a bit of a phase, and they won't be commonplace in 10/20 years time. The concept feels flawed to me. Agree. The idea usually is that a SD sets the vision for the club but they rarely seem to stay around that long. They are also kind of unaccountable because they aren't directly responsible for what happens on the pitch. What you need is someone with a vision for the club who is directly accountable. I feel we have that already and it's not like we're going backwards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted July 14, 2025 Share Posted July 14, 2025 2 hours ago, pinkeye said: just once we identify the player we want we should just get the deal done. That should be pretty simple, it is for most other clubs it would seem. James Trafford deal as a prime example... I think we are up to 12 months now. I realise that some of that is us and some of that is Burnley but, if we want him.. Just bloody buy him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted July 14, 2025 Share Posted July 14, 2025 More from the bbc. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cy7n2030rx8o Ross has a great reputation in the game and at the club. I assume (dangerous) he is aligned with Eddie and they share the same club vision. I understand the strange backwards approach not getting DOF in to hire his people etc. But it depends how we have set up our hiring process. If we already have a united vision and identity/pathway then we are really looking for someone to actualize the plan and build upon it. Different from Ashworth who was kind of starting at ground zero. Might point towards more reasons why Mitchell didnt stick. He might well have wanted more changes to fit his vision while we were essentially happy with the one we had that Howe liked. I'd expect this whole search for DOF is to continue work and compliment the plan not recreate the wheel. If that's the case they should fit with who we have at the club, and the hiring process built around that idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JigsawGoesToPieces Posted July 15, 2025 Share Posted July 15, 2025 Head of Football Strategy sounds like one of those made up jobs for the boys type roles, hardly screams out an elite appointment. Basically he has gone from Head of Academy Coach Development to Head of Strategic Technical Football Partnerships to Head of Football Strategy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted July 15, 2025 Share Posted July 15, 2025 (edited) On 14/07/2025 at 16:53, toontownman said: More from the bbc. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cy7n2030rx8o Ross has a great reputation in the game and at the club. I assume (dangerous) he is aligned with Eddie and they share the same club vision. I understand the strange backwards approach not getting DOF in to hire his people etc. But it depends how we have set up our hiring process. If we already have a united vision and identity/pathway then we are really looking for someone to actualize the plan and build upon it. Different from Ashworth who was kind of starting at ground zero. Might point towards more reasons why Mitchell didnt stick. He might well have wanted more changes to fit his vision while we were essentially happy with the one we had that Howe liked. I'd expect this whole search for DOF is to continue work and compliment the plan not recreate the wheel. If that's the case they should fit with who we have at the club, and the hiring process built around that idea. Outside of not signing anyone for the last 3 windows our business has been incredible. Hard to pick a real failure other than Targett but that's more injury and system change than anything Edited July 15, 2025 by relámpago blanco Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted July 15, 2025 Share Posted July 15, 2025 Jack Ross? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted July 16, 2025 Share Posted July 16, 2025 I’d much rather we would the football club around the style of play Eddie has successfully implemented here with Ross charged with that than a sporting director who often has a speciality that isn’t the deep defined philosophy of a style of play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted July 16, 2025 Share Posted July 16, 2025 Just thinking, perhaps the strategy brief he’s been given is make sure we sign all the world’s best forwards. Canny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted July 16, 2025 Share Posted July 16, 2025 15 hours ago, Kanj said: I’d much rather we would the football club around the style of play Eddie has successfully implemented here with Ross charged with that than a sporting director who often has a speciality that isn’t the deep defined philosophy of a style of play. I think the idea that Ross is in charge of the football development side using Eddies plans and a new fella is brought in that is a PSR nerd charged with providing Howe with as much money as possible, using any means possible, is the way to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 Can anyone clarify who's doing what this summer? Because right now it seems like fuck all is happening, nothing is organised and there's a real risk we lose our best ever CF and we've got nothing there to indicate we have a plan to replace him. If the alarm bells aren't ringing right now then they fucking should be Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT24 Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 34 minutes ago, midds said: Can anyone clarify who's doing what this summer? Because right now it seems like fuck all is happening, nothing is organised and there's a real risk we lose our best ever CF and we've got nothing there to indicate we have a plan to replace him. If the alarm bells aren't ringing right now then they fucking should be I’ll ask Chris Waugh at his next Athletic Q&A. I won’t get an answer but I can at least say I tried. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 37 minutes ago, midds said: Can anyone clarify who's doing what this summer? Because right now it seems like fuck all is happening, nothing is organised and there's a real risk we lose our best ever CF and we've got nothing there to indicate we have a plan to replace him. If the alarm bells aren't ringing right now then they fucking should be How do you know nothing is happening? /s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 3 minutes ago, JT24 said: I’ll ask Chris Waugh at his next Athletic Q&A. I won’t get an answer but I can at least say I tried. Ask Douglas. He will tell you what is going on next week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 5 minutes ago, Weezertron said: How do you know nothing is happening? /s 'seems like' I don't know but I do know how much has actually been achieved this summer and it's not fucking much tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 Just now, midds said: 'seems like' I don't know but I do know how much has actually been achieved this summer and it's not fucking much tbh Sorry, I was being sarcastic in an attempt to mock the superfans on the board. Didn't work I feel the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 Clubs gone to shit since that set piece coach in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 4 minutes ago, TBG said: Clubs gone to shit since that set piece coach in. I blame Mitchell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 Can they hire a graphic designer please to fix this awful mess Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT24 Posted July 19, 2025 Share Posted July 19, 2025 4 minutes ago, El Prontonise said: Can they hire a graphic designer please to fix this awful mess It wouldn’t be so bad if the club crests were next to the score but this is just shocking. Another example of background amateur hour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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