Backroom & executive staff

[Kid Icarus]

2 minutes ago, Colos Short and Curlies said:

 

We might have had PSR headroom but we also had Wilson who went on to score 18 that season. 

That's true, it very well might have been tricky. I wonder if Pedro maybe could have cone in as a 10. IIRC it was around then we were looking at Maddison 

[KDT]

Just now, hallihg said:

Theres no doubt that Amanda and Mehrdad would have been a little more successful in wooing and convincing players to come - not saying they def. would have got Sesko specifically, we dont know that, but they wouldn't have been this sloppy.

They also don’t have the money to invest into the club & Amanda had a bankruptcy claim in against her. She might be a decent person but it’s debatable to say she’s a decent businesswoman. 

[JigsawGoesToPieces]

13 minutes ago, 54 said:

The hate Andy Howe gets really does confuse me, by all accounts, from articles i've read in the past, he's good at his job and as such has been given internal promotions because of it (Originally I think he came in as a transfer data analyst), its just he's being asked to do a job this summer that he's not equipped to do. 

 

Go back a few months before anyone knew Eales was on sick leave and Mitchell has handed in his notice. 

 

The recruitment team have probably spent the last 12 months + identifying and scouting targets for the same 3 or 4 names to be regurgitated 

 

Agreed Nickson and Howe are probably doing more than their job now but what the hell they been doing for the last year?

 

 

Edited August 7, 2025 by JigsawGoesToPieces

[r0cafella]

14 minutes ago, 54 said:

The hate Andy Howe gets really does confuse me, by all accounts, from articles i've read in the past, he's good at his job and as such has been given internal promotions because of it (Originally I think he came in as a transfer data analyst), its just he's being asked to do a job this summer that he's not equipped to do. 

Absolutely no hate intended from but if people take that way it's fine. 

 

Not sure why being anti nepotism is a controversial stance but here we are. 

[Kid Icarus]

You're not being being anti-nepotism, you're being pro-presumed nepotism and pro-presumed incompetence based on that.

 

 

Edited August 7, 2025 by Kid Icarus

[r0cafella]

Just now, Kid Icarus said:

You're not being being anti-nepotism, you're being pro-presumed nepotism.

missed the part where other clubs were queuing up for him. Your presumption it isn't nepotism is the same as mine btw. 

[54]

6 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

Absolutely no hate intended from but if people take that way it's fine. 

 

Not sure why being anti nepotism is a controversial stance but here we are. 

Personally I don't see 1 person being related to Eddie Howe as nepotism when there is no evidence that is what is in play, if there is a whole bunch of people related to Eddie being hired then sure, but one person seems a stretch to me, especially when you add in the fact he was Chief Scout at Bournemouth for over 5 years prior to being hired, so he's clearly good at his job.

[morpeth mag]

21 minutes ago, midds said:

Obvious question for me - who would do the review? 

New CEO

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Even if it is nepotism, he might still be decent at his actual job. And his actual job is probably nowhere near what he’s currently being asked to do. 
 

I don’t like how it looks but at the end of the day Andy Howe should really be a relatively minor member of staff and it shouldn’t matter either way. 

[r0cafella]

2 minutes ago, 54 said:

Personally I don't see 1 person being related to Eddie Howe as nepotism when there is no evidence that is what is in play, if there is a whole bunch of people related to Eddie being hired then sure, but one person seems a stretch to me, especially when you add in the fact he was Chief Scout at Bournemouth for over 5 years prior to being hired. 

I see that and that's fine chief scout at a club like Bournemouth is a world away from what our ambitions are. I havent checked but how long was the overlap between Foley taking over and Ah leaving? 

 

For me, it's just not needed and will definitely cause issues in terms of dynamics but again I'm one of the few advocates for removing the transfer power from the manager. 

[Stuy_O]

21 minutes ago, Harveys Barn said:

Biggest take-away for me is that we have made a heap of moves for players who haven't already been totally convinced to come.

 

It needs to be built on months of wooing them, so they are already coming, in their mind. Then you approach their club with an offer, and by that stage, it's too late for other clubs to move in. This seems to be how Elanga played out.

 

But guehi, ekitike, sesko, cunha, pedro - none of these players seemed care, or have had any real emotional connection being built prior to the offers landing.

 

It makes us look really sloppy.

Our reaction to Mbuemos wage demands would suggest our preparation was extremely poor. 
 

He looked our main RW target, did we even speak to him or sound him in the months and months prior? 

 

 

Edited August 7, 2025 by Stuy_O

[54]

1 minute ago, r0cafella said:

I see that and that's fine chief scout at a club like Bournemouth is a world away from what our ambitions are. I havent checked but how long was the overlap between Foley taking over and Ah leaving? 

 

For me, it's just not needed and will definitely cause issues in terms of dynamics but again I'm one of the few advocates for removing the transfer power from the manager. 

Liverpool appointed Richard Hughes from Bournemouth, where he was technical director for a decade prior to being appointed. I don't see why appointing someone from a club like Bournemouth is an issue if they're good at their job. 

 

Andy Howe has been here for 4 years now and there hasn't been any dynamic issues so far? 

[Kid Icarus]

19 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

missed the part where other clubs were queuing up for him. Your presumption it isn't nepotism is the same as mine btw. 

I don't have any presumption. I think it's natural for it to raise questions, but I definitely wouldn't be jumping to the conclusion that he's the specific one who needs to go based on pure guesswork and conjecture. For all either of us know he could be Brooklyn Beckham or Robert Stephenson as far as nepo-baby ability goes, and ability is key. For all we know he's a non-negotiable for Howe too.

 

Personally I think the idea that Howe would indulge in that runs against the grain of everything we know about how he works and what he expects from others.

 

 

Edited August 7, 2025 by Kid Icarus

[r0cafella]

Just now, 54 said:

Liverpool appointed Richard Hughes from Bournemouth, where he was technical director for a decade prior to being appointed. I don't see why appointing someone from a club like Bournemouth is an issue if they're good at their job. 

 

Andy Howe has been here for 4 years now and there hasn't been any dynamic issues so far? 

We have had dynamics issues, we've had two sporting directors in 2 years. Don't get me wrong I'm not attributing that to Andy Howe but we clearly do have issues how they manifest we won't ever know from the outside looking in. On a personal anecdotal level I can tell you about how the HR head of a firm I worked was the CEOs wife worked

 

We've also failed in a speculator fashion this summer to the point we are now the laughing stock of the league. Again I'm not blaming Andy Howe for this but again clearly something isn't right. 

[r0cafella]

Btw is it true the DOF are are linked with the lad from forest is Eddie's mate?

[toontownman]

I presume we are holding off these appointments until the window is closed so they don't get smeared with the shit show of this summer.

 

 

[Kanj]

if we had hired Richard Hughes, would you have said the same thing? 

[et tu brute]

Just now, toontownman said:

I presume we are holding off these appointments until the window is closed so they don't get smeared with the shit show of this summer.

 

 

For the CEO yes, I think the alleged new sporting director is rather busy at Forest currently 

[r0cafella]

Just now, Kanj said:

if we had hired Richard Hughes, would you have said the same thing? 

I did say the same thing. I want separation. I don't want the club to collapse when the day comes. 

[r0cafella]

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The 41-year-old has a good relationship with Newcastle manager Eddie Howe, who is involved in the process along with majority shareholders, Saudi Arabia’s Public Investment Fund (PIF), and co-owner James Reuben, which is thought to count in his favour.

From the athletic doesn't say they are friends but..

[andycap]

It is bad craic like going into the summer with both your ceo and dof not in place. 

Surely we should have kicked into gear and sorted the appointments out, whether that be part time appointments to get us through the window successfully, or fast tracked the two we are after. 

[PauloGeordio]

8 minutes ago, andycap said:

It is bad craic like going into the summer with both your ceo and dof not in place. 

Surely we should have kicked into gear and sorted the appointments out, whether that be part time appointments to get us through the window successfully, or fast tracked the two we are after. 

How do we know that Eddie in agreement with Andy and Nickson agreed to this whilst PIF fuck about getting their 2 targets over the line for these vacancies. Obviously not expecting things to be this difficult with money to spend,cup winners, UCL qualification as an attraction oh and the turd in the bath Isak to deal with and the cartel going full nuclear on spends! 

[Rich]

I’ll fuck off to work and stop shitposting soon, but remember the early summer briefings of ‘internal satisfaction at targets not being in the public domain’? Where are they?

 

There are multiple people at the top of our club absolutely stealing a living.

[r0cafella]

3 minutes ago, Rich said:

I’ll fuck off to work and stop shitposting soon, but remember the early summer briefings of ‘internal satisfaction at targets not being in the public domain’? Where are they?

 

There are multiple people at the top of our club absolutely stealing a living.

This was reworded to foreign targets and yeah not sure where they are tbh. 

 

That was still being peddled two weeks ago btw. 

[Keegans Export]

9 minutes ago, Rich said:

I’ll fuck off to work and stop shitposting soon, but remember the early summer briefings of ‘internal satisfaction at targets not being in the public domain’? Where are they?

 

There are multiple people at the top of our club absolutely stealing a living.

With the benefit of hindsight they're looking very much like "Oh yeah, I've got a girlfriend but she goes to a different school so you won't have heard of her..."