Si Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 15 minutes ago, Joey Linton said: Our ownership who they cleared as not being intrinsically linked to the Saudi state? But they are obviously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awaymag Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Si said: But they are obviously. Prove it legally. Until then its just pissing in the wind! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Just now, ManDoon said: Burn football and start it again. We’d have a great advantage in a one club city. let’s have a few more wins first. We’ve waited long enough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 (edited) Probably just shouldn't be allowed to be owned by anybody outside whatever country your team is in. Get no cultural differences that way. There again why just limit it to football or sport. Its the same tentacles in business and the same morals. Edited March 14, 2022 by Wolfcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztoon Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Wonder if pep gets asked about his bosses after the game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 I just think this will all blow over, Chelsea will get new owners and something else will happen to occupy the sports news. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bompeter Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Concerted effort now to make Howe’s position untenable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Think Eddie Howe is being really patient too, calmly replies to each question that he is only talking about football. He needs to carry on doing that calmly as they are only trying to get a reaction from him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, Awaymag said: Prove it legally. Until then its just pissing in the wind! Because of it obviously fucking is its the Saudi fucking public investment fund. Not so my e random blokes investment portfolio. You can cling to whatever league decision you want but don't pretend to be daft enough not to understand how the Saudi Public Investment Fund might have strong links to Saudi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, ManDoon said: Burn football and start it again. We’d have a great advantage in a one club city. It wouldn't be a one-club city if football started again. The mackems would take a back seat and our new rivals would undoubtedly be the newly formed FC AlexHurst-MichaelMartin. Sporting Club de Steve Wraith would also be wanting a look in too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Linton Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 13 minutes ago, Si said: But they are obviously. I think they are. But the Premier League are on record as saying they definitely aren't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palestoon Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Killing 81 "terrorists" on a "just trust us these guys are bad" basis? Told you guys they were adopting western morality Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awaymag Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, Si said: Because of it obviously fucking is its the Saudi fucking public investment fund. Not so my e random blokes investment portfolio. You can cling to whatever league decision you want but don't pretend to be daft enough not to understand how the Saudi Public Investment Fund might have strong links to Saudi Prove it legally then. That's all that matters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Awaymag said: Prove it legally then. That's all that matters. From the PIF website "Under the chairmanship and guidance of HRH Prince Mohammad bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, the Board is responsible for overseeing PIF’s long-term strategy, investment policy and performance." I think you are getting confused the Premier League didn't say there were no connections between PIF and Saudi they received reassurances that the Saudi Gov wouldn't be involved in the day to day running of the club. Putting it in other terms the links between our club and it's funding are more explicit than they are between Putin and Abrhamovich. Edited March 14, 2022 by Si Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 (edited) Boris is off to Saudi this week, in what world are the govt going to sanction KSA and PIF to sell us. It’s absolutely laughable how pundits have dragged us into this, where’s the calls for Man City to be sanctioned as they are part of the coalition that bombs Yemen. The undercurrent to this remains jealousy and fear of what NUFC can become. These same pundits and journos will be lapping it up in Qatar later this year. Edited March 14, 2022 by Whitley mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Just now, Whitley mag said: Boris is off to Saudi this week, in what world are the govt going to sanction KSA and PIF to sell us. It’s absolutely laughable how pundits have dragged us into this, where’s the calls for Man City to be sanctioned as they are part of the coalition that bombs Yemen. The undercurrent to this remains jealousy and fear of what NUFC can become. These same pundits and journos will be lapping it up in Qatar later this year. Boris was also taking Russian money a month or two ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Si said: Boris was also taking Russian money a month or two ago. Saudi Arabia are one of our oldest allies, the same can’t be said for Russia. It’s just never happening, the relationship is vital to western influence in Middle East. Edited March 14, 2022 by Whitley mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nbthree3 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-60744515 Addressing the Commons, Mr Amesbury said: "Is the Saudi Arabian Public Investment Fund a right and proper and fit for purpose owner of Newcastle United?" Ms Milling replied: "The Saudi Arabian Public Investment Fund is a significant investor, having invested billions in the UK and other western markets, it operates across a range of sectors. "We welcome the purchase of Newcastle United, a sign that the UK remains a great place to invest." Labour's Chi Onwurah who represents Newcastle upon Tyne Central, said: "I think it's important to say that in utterly condemning this atrocious, horrific massacre, I speak for many of my constituents and Newcastle United fans. "Does the minister agree with me that whereas football fans have no control or influence over the ownership of their beloved clubs and especially in a Premier League awash with dirty money, the UK government has both control and influence in who it trades with and who it engages with? "Will she tell us what she is going to do with that control and influence?" Ms Milling replied: "With regards to Newcastle United, we've never had a role at any point in the club's prospective takeover and this has been a commercial matter for the Premier League." The Premier League said Newcastle's owners proved suitable separation from the Saudi state before the buy out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 52 minutes ago, jack j said: Just caught the back of neville on skysporrs there. Is he suggesting they redo the ownerships rules and therefore take our ownership away? Neville really needs to have a bit more humility about his lack of knowledge on these things tbh. I'm sure he has the best of intentions and he shouldn't be expected to know, but he's always very willing to push his very strong public opinions on things he (at least imo) has more or less no knowledge on. All while (rightly) bemoaning the lack of respect given to experts, which strikes me as contradictory It was only pre-Ukraine that he was insisting it's better to have the likes of MBS, Qatar, Abramovich around the table and to help them progress. He's now presumably realised the obvious (that he was being incredibly naïve) and will now push his new stance until he learns something new again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awaymag Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Si said: From the PIF website "Under the chairmanship and guidance of HRH Prince Mohammad bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, the Board is responsible for overseeing PIF’s long-term strategy, investment policy and performance." I think you are getting confused the Premier League didn't say there were no connections between PIF and Saudi they received reassurances t he at the Saudi Gov wouldn't be involved in the day to day running of the club. Putting it in other terms the links between our club and it's funding are more explicit than they are between Putin and Abrhamovich. Okay so what you are saying is you dont believe in the law and you want others to agree with you. That's fine, is there any law you do agree with or are you a free spirit? You can appeal against any law decision to a point but to keep going on about Saudi government =PIF is legally incorrect and so your opinion/argument is incorrect! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztoon Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Si said: Boris was also taking Russian money a month or two ago. Nowhere near the same scale.. Saudis have pumped billions in this country the last decade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 I disagreed with their comments on Howe. I feel they're totally misdirected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Neville really needs to have a bit more humility about his lack of knowledge on these things tbh. I'm sure he has the best of intentions and he shouldn't be expected to know, but he's always very willing to push his very strong public opinions on things he (at least imo) has more or less no knowledge on. All while (rightly) bemoaning the lack of respect given to experts, which strikes me as contradictory It was only pre-Ukraine that he was insisting it's better to have the likes of MBS, Qatar, Abramovich around the table and to help them progress. He's now presumably realised the obvious (that he was being incredibly naïve) and will now push his new stance until he learns something new again. Neville is just like Johnson, looking which way the wind is blowing and following the opinion despite not really having any clue of the nuance and not providing any solution. Only he’s on the other side. Part of me still thinks this attack would be nowhere near as severe if we were still looking relegation certainties. Edited March 14, 2022 by Sima Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 11 minutes ago, Gaztoon said: Nowhere near the same scale.. Saudis have pumped billions in this country the last decade. Not the same scale but the returns the Russians got for their investment far outweighs the Saudis return. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 20 minutes ago, Awaymag said: Okay so what you are saying is you dont believe in the law and you want others to agree with you. That's fine, is there any law you do agree with or are you a free spirit? You can appeal against any law decision to a point but to keep going on about Saudi government =PIF is legally incorrect and so your opinion/argument is incorrect! https://www.pif.gov.sa/en/Pages/About-OurLeadership.aspx Look at the web address, then look at the board members Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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