Eddie Howe - Cup Winning NUFC Manager

[Mahoneys Tache]

  On 17/09/2022 at 16:46, TheBrownBottle said:

My only worry - and it is a minor one - is that we don’t know what the owners expectations are, nor how they will react to stretches of disappointing results.  And by the owners, I’m referring to PIF.

 

For me, Howe should be given a couple of years to build - we’re so much better than this time last year irrespective of money spent.  The bloke is clearly an excellent manager / coach.

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I asked a question about this yesterday and got fucking murdered for it, even though I’d said clearly that I didn’t like the notion of them getting twitchy.  No one has any idea how they will react to a dodgy period because they are an unknown quantity up to now. I hope they are sensible about it but I have a sneaky suspicion that they might panic if the crowds get restless. 

[BlueStar]

 

Dunno why Richard Keys is on our dick all of a sudden after slagging us off for years, he defended us complaining about the Liverpool winner as well. Maybe we're oil money friends now. 

 

 

[Tiresias]

A problem i guess is last season everyone coming to st James were eyeing a potential 3 points and set up accordingly. Eddie has to think about if he can tweak the setup against teams just sitting deep

[LV]

  On 18/09/2022 at 09:49, Mahoneys Tache said:

I asked a question about this yesterday and got fucking murdered for it, even though I’d said clearly that I didn’t like the notion of them getting twitchy.  No one has any idea how they will react to a dodgy period because they are an unknown quantity up to now. I hope they are sensible about it but I have a sneaky suspicion that they might panic if the crowds get restless. 

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Based on what??

 

Everything they have said is that they want Howe here long term. There is no sense whatsoever that they’d have an itchy trigger finger.

 

This conversation isn’t even warranted right now, it’s weird that it’s even being brought up. 

[LV]

  On 18/09/2022 at 11:12, BlueStar said:

 

Dunno why Richard Keys is on our dick all of a sudden after slagging us off for years, he defended us complaining about the Liverpool winner as well. Maybe we're oil money friends now. 

 

 

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Attention/ clicks/ need to stay relevant 

[Happinesstan]

Looking at some of the posts it's clear some people haven't got a clue. Their only solution [to a problem they've invented just to justify their solution]i s to go out and buy 6 top class players because we have infinite funds. We just didn't spend enough.

[BonesJones]

Brighton probably our worst performance. Even Bruno looked poor in that game, still didn't lose.

 

Absolutely nothing to worry about. The thing that amazes me most is how anyone could be negative, must be new fans that didn't go through the Ashley era.

[jackyboy]

From where we were when Amanda took over it will take several years to build us up to be able to really compete with the top boys. We have taken giant steps since Eddie came in and brought in some good players. A lot of fans are whinging about why we didn't buy this one and that one but they don't seem to consider that the players we would like might not be available or their clubs prefer not to sell to us. When we get ASM, Wilson and Shelvey back we should be quite a threat

[Rafalove]

  On 18/09/2022 at 11:12, BlueStar said:

 

Dunno why Richard Keys is on our dick all of a sudden after slagging us off for years, he defended us complaining about the Liverpool winner as well. Maybe we're oil money friends now. 

 

 

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Its because we have an English manager

[Geordie Ahmed]

  On 19/09/2022 at 08:57, jackyboy said:

From where we were when Amanda took over it will take several years to build us up to be able to really compete with the top boys. We have taken giant steps since Eddie came in and brought in some good players. A lot of fans are whinging about why we didn't buy this one and that one but they don't seem to consider that the players we would like might not be available or their clubs prefer not to sell to us. When we get ASM, Wilson and Shelvey back we should be quite a threat

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Aye plus it was never going to be something that's solved in 1 or 2 windows 

 

I look at the Jan/Summer windows as one really, if we weren't in such a dire situation I don't think we would have done much in January

 

The defence has largely been addressed, even managed to add a couple of players in attacking positions. 

 

Now the next few windows (not convinced we'll do a lot in Jan) will be about investing in the attack, so we aren't in a situation where an ASM injury can render us toothless.

 

People just need to show some patience.

[McCormick]

  On 18/09/2022 at 11:12, BlueStar said:

 

Dunno why Richard Keys is on our dick all of a sudden after slagging us off for years, he defended us complaining about the Liverpool winner as well. Maybe we're oil money friends now. 

 

 

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He really likes Howe; on Bein he’s often very complimentary of him. Fits in with his incessant “British managers need more opportunities in the prem” agenda. It’s just a grim coincidence that we’re aligned on this as we’re all fully behind Eddie (on merit I should add, not because he’s British).

[McCormick]

  On 19/09/2022 at 09:06, Rafalove said:

 

 

Its because we have an English manager

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Yeah. This, basically.

[Happinesstan]

  On 19/09/2022 at 09:09, Geordie Ahmed said:

Aye plus it was never going to be something that's solved in 1 or 2 windows 

 

I look at the Jan/Summer windows as one really, if we weren't in such a dire situation I don't think we would have done much in January

 

The defence has largely been addressed, even managed to add a couple of players in attacking positions. 

 

Now the next few windows (not convinced we'll do a lot in Jan) will be about investing in the attack, so we aren't in a situation where an ASM injury can render us toothless.

 

People just need to show some patience.

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'The project' is what got everybody excited. Do people even understand the concept in this "I want it yesterday" world.

[OverThere]

I'm completely fine with how things have gone. We've been a bit unlucky with injuries and what have you but the thing that sticks in my mind is the Man C game and the fact that with our full team out we can go toe to toe with anyone.

 

If I was being critical I don't like the wide players we have with the exception of ASM. Almiron tries hard and tracks back but its just not his position. This inverted winger tactic just doesn't seem to be working: personnel or scheme?

 

 

[Happinesstan]

  On 19/09/2022 at 12:53, OverThere said:

I'm completely fine with how things have gone. We've been a bit unlucky with injuries and what have you but the thing that sticks in my mind is the Man C game and the fact that with our full team out we can go toe to toe with anyone.

 

If I was being critical I don't like the wide players we have with the exception of ASM. Almiron tries hard and tracks back but its just not his position. This inverted winger tactic just doesn't seem to be working: personnel or scheme?

 

 

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It worked against Man City and Liverpool but we're too narrow when teams sit beind the ball. Need a more traditional winger type in those circumstances, just witch them over for the last 15 mins at least. 

TBF we might have done that yesterday, I missed the last 20mins.

[NWMag]

 

hard to believe it’s less than 12 months since Bruceball

[The Prophet]

Impressive and potentially explains the frequent soft tissue injuries.

[Yorkie]

It's shit like that which gives me faith that we'll win way more than we lose. Fill that structure with more potent attackers and you've got a recipe for goals.

 

Really on board with what Howe's doing. Do think he needs a bit of a plan B though. 

[The College Dropout]

  On 21/09/2022 at 20:25, NWMag said:

 

hard to believe it’s less than 12 months since Bruceball

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Joelinton and Willock are excellent for that. Pressing machines.

[The Prophet]

  On 21/09/2022 at 20:52, Yorkie said:

It's shit like that which gives me faith that we'll win way more than we lose. Fill that structure with more potent attackers and you've got a recipe for goals.

 

Really on board with what Howe's doing. Do think he needs a bit of a plan B though. 

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Agree for the most part, but it's difficult to find a plan B when you turn to the bench and have Murphy and Wood longingly looking back at you.

[bowlingcrofty]

  On 21/09/2022 at 20:52, Yorkie said:

It's shit like that which gives me faith that we'll win way more than we lose. Fill that structure with more potent attackers and you've got a recipe for goals.

 

Really on board with what Howe's doing. Do think he needs a bit of a plan B though. 

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I think we’re currently playing with plan B with the likes of Miggy, Fraser and Willock. Wood and Murphy are last resort options as it stands. 
 

Give it two or three windows and the likes of Wilson and ASM will be plan B and the players above will be either plan C or no longer here.

[TheBrownBottle]

  On 21/09/2022 at 20:25, NWMag said:

 

hard to believe it’s less than 12 months since Bruceball

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Yep - this time last year (it really was only that long ago) we started the season unfit.  It took Howe a couple of months to get the players to PL fitness levels.  Now look at them.

 

The goals will come (especially as better and better players are added - less injury prone ones would also be useful for this play style).

 

Howe is absolutely the right man at the right club for me (Jeff).

[Barnes23]

  On 21/09/2022 at 21:07, bowlingcrofty said:

I think we’re currently playing with plan B with the likes of Miggy, Fraser and Willock. Wood and Murphy are last resort options as it stands. 
 

Give it two or three windows and the likes of Wilson and ASM will be plan B and the players above will be either plan C or no longer here.

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Think it's a mistake to think of Plan A, Plan B etc purely in terms of personnel. We're going to need to transition into being a team that can effectively break through a low block/deep defence much more effectively than we showed on Saturday. It's going to involve player upgrades but will also need tactical flexibility and evolution. 

[Coffee_Johnny]

Shelvey, Targett, Bruno (and new flair up), Maxi, Isak, Anderson—feel like I may be missing some—all picking up injuries. Mostly muscle-related. Is there a problem with the whole ‘intensity is our identity’ approach? Any manager would want the fitness possible team, but is he pushing too hard? 

[Tiresias]

We really would benefit from a midfielder who can play keep ball and slow things down, it feels like we go for broke all game which is brilliant but part of that is we are bad at patience and holding on the the ball to take the sting out of games.