Eddie Howe

[andycap]

1 minute ago, Lush Vlad said:

Would have also probably made him the highest earning player at the club behind Bruno.  So I'm sure that would have totally broken our wage bill structure. 

A free saves a boat load in other areas though. We might of even getting a right winger aswell. 

[Mazzy]

Had to turn off the press conference about 15 minutes in! Same question regurgitated by the reporters time and time again just phrased slightly differently. It's their fucking job and they all just ask the same thing over and over. Could see Howe was getting frustrated with it 

[Collage]

13 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

 

When asked about the mood of the stressing room:

Freudian slip

[The Prophet]

1 minute ago, Collage said:

Freudian slip

 

Appropriate autocorrect.

[Lush Vlad]

3 minutes ago, andycap said:

A free saves a boat load in other areas though. We might of even getting a right winger aswell. 

 

But then if we are struggling with our wage bill against turnover already and we suddenly start paying all our current top players £150k a week plus and new signings similar.  Then how does that work?

 

I would have liked us to get Tosin.  Even using hindsight.  Do I think we should have broken our wage structure and paid him wages well above his ability?  No. 

[Theregulars]

What he omits from his narrative, or what wasn’t asked, was an explanation as to why the club felt there were only 4 or 5 attainable targets to improve the playing staff - not least when the club have paid (presumably) high dollar for one of the allegedly greatest scouting minds in the modern game. 
 

That’s part of why I say “gaslit” - I don’t think what Howe and the club are saying stands up to any journalistically responsible level of scrutiny. 
 

It can’t be stated clearly enough: the club has failed its objective of improving the playing staff for this season. That’s a serious failure and one which forms and unhelpful narrative about this season when we really could have done without one on the back of a previous season full of pretty bad narratives.

 

As a result, the sentiment around the club - and apparently inside judging by what he’s said - is needlessly and avoidably negative. In my view it’s a stupid and irresponsible risk.

[SUPERTOON]

27 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

From today's prezza:

 

"We’re working well, in respect of our relationships. I think that is fine, there are no issues there. Of course, turning that into transfers, I’ve said all summer that I’m not involved in negotiations for players, that is separate to me. So, hopefully, that answers the question.

 

'You have to understand that in the majority of the other windows, the whole structure of the club has been different, so that is not necessarily a criticism of the structure we have now. There are different personalities and there’s a different way of working now. Yes, it probably has been the most hands off I’ve been, but that’s not necessarily a negative.’

 

He added: ‘All together we want to find the right solutions, but they have to be the right solutions. The worst thing we could do is bring the wrong players into the football club. That would cause harm for a long time, so it’s always about the right players.

 

‘It's never about one player, we've tried for numerous players. But there's not a bottomless pit of names. There's probably four or five players that you go through and, once you get to the end of that, you're then going, is this player of sufficient quality?"

 

When asked about the mood of the stressing room:

 

"If I’m being honest, it probably mirrors the narrative created and it’s my job to shape that in the most powerful way that I can,’

 

'What I mean by that is there’s been a number of unsettled players during this window. It’s not been a clear window for us in terms of just bringing players in. It’s been difficult the other way as well. So I think once the window shuts we’ll have clarity. The players will have clarity. “Right, we’re all here now together for the same aim”, and then I’d like to think we will all go together until January in the pursuit of excellence and in the pursuit of success.

 

'We have some brilliant characters in the squad and a great changing room, so there is no criticism of the changing room. It’s just it has been unsettling. That’s always difficult when the situation is like that."

He’s saying a lot of things that others have said on here all summer tbh. And if we have tried for numerous other players and not signed one then that is a failure.

[bobbydazzla]

This window was a negative and right now I need two positives. One to cancel out the negative and another one just so I can have a positive

 

 

Edited August 30, 2024 by bobbydazzla

[r0cafella]

4 minutes ago, Theregulars said:

What he omits from his narrative, or what wasn’t asked, was an explanation as to why the club felt there were only 4 or 5 attainable targets to improve the playing staff - not least when the club have paid (presumably) high dollar for one of the allegedly greatest scouting minds in the modern game. 
 

That’s part of why I say “gaslit” - I don’t think what Howe and the club are saying stands up to any journalistically responsible level of scrutiny. 
 

It can’t be stated clearly enough: the club has failed its objective of improving the playing staff for this season. That’s a serious failure and one which forms and unhelpful narrative about this season when we really could have done without one on the back of a previous season full of pretty bad narratives.

 

As a result, the sentiment around the club - and apparently inside judging by what he’s said - is needlessly and avoidably negative. In my view it’s a stupid and irresponsible risk.

Your right, but let’s be honest with ourselves we can’t even find a new site for the training ground, we clear lack o lot of competency in a lot of areas. Have our youth teams even got managers or is that something else pending to do? 
 

Hand on heart we lack direction and leadership and are struggling to live u pro the grandiose statements that have been made. 

[nufc123]

6 minutes ago, Theregulars said:

What he omits from his narrative, or what wasn’t asked, was an explanation as to why the club felt there were only 4 or 5 attainable targets to improve the playing staff - not least when the club have paid (presumably) high dollar for one of the allegedly greatest scouting minds in the modern game. 
 

That’s part of why I say “gaslit” - I don’t think what Howe and the club are saying stands up to any journalistically responsible level of scrutiny. 
 

It can’t be stated clearly enough: the club has failed its objective of improving the playing staff for this season. That’s a serious failure and one which forms and unhelpful narrative about this season when we really could have done without one on the back of a previous season full of pretty bad narratives.

 

As a result, the sentiment around the club - and apparently inside judging by what he’s said - is needlessly and avoidably negative. In my view it’s a stupid and irresponsible risk.

Good post.

[OoOGazOoO]

It is just my interpretation, but from those quotes from Eddie, I take it as:

 

Howe was resolute about bringing in quality

Other figures brought options to him but he wasn't keen on them

Any negotiations aren't handled by him, so the negotiation 'blame' (in relation to Guehi) doesn't sit at Howe's door

Gordon and Tripps have probably been unsettled by speculation around them leaving

[buzz]

3 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

This window was a negative and right now I need two positives. One to cancel out the negative and another one just so I can have a positive

 

 

 

 

Still, good news about Stack. 

[gbandit]

Probably his most candid press conference so far I’d say. Those lines about difficulties with transfers the other way (e.g. potential sales and outgoings of players we don’t want to sell) is a bit of a concern really

[Yorkie]

Caught up on the presser, quite a lot to digest but the critical thing at the centre of everything is: this is PSR's fault.

 

You can choose not to buy that, and instead question the competency and the decision-making of the staff involved (and/or deduce that there's disharmony behind the scenes).

 

Or you can take him at face value. We wanted to recruit but we couldn't and - scared by rules which are set out to keep the likes of us at arms length - took a decision in the best interests of the club.

 

I appreciated his honesty about the unsettledness of the players, which is really sad to hear but unsurprising. If that can't be repaired then we really are onto a season of treading water but there's plenty of evidence to suggest it can be. Not least the win the other night. 

[ExiledGeordie]

6 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

Caught up on the presser, quite a lot to digest but the critical thing at the centre of everything is: this is PSR's fault.

 

You can choose not to buy that, and instead question the competency and the decision-making of the staff involved (and/or try deduce that there's disharmony behind the scenes).

 

Or you can take him at face value. We wanted to recruit but we couldn't and - scared by rules which are set out to keep the likes of us at arms length - took a decision in the best interests of the club.

 

I appreciated his honesty about the unsettledness of the players, which is really sad to hear but unsurprising. If that can't be repaired then we really are onto a season of treading water but there's plenty of evidence to suggest it can be. Not least the win the other night. 

When the club as taken over I envisaged exciting windows where we looked to bring in absolute quality each window but not on a ridiculous, unrealistic level. We’ve obviously made some great signings since the takeover but PSR has totally fucked us really and I think there needs to be a degree of realism moving forwards. We see hamstrung by regulations that perfectly suit the top 6 and makes it very hard for anyone else to progress. I don’t think the club realised how difficult things would be for them. 
 

That said it’s still possible to feel extremely deflated by this window. Whatever the reason is (and Howe has alluded to them in his interview) if you’d told me a few years ago we wouldn’t be signing a single bonafide starting 11 player this window I’d have been shocked and bemused.

 

 

Edited August 30, 2024 by ExiledGeordie

[SUPERTOON]

6 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

Caught up on the presser, quite a lot to digest but the critical thing at the centre of everything is: this is PSR's fault.

 

You can choose not to buy that, and instead question the competency and the decision-making of the staff involved (and/or try deduce that there's disharmony behind the scenes).

 

Or you can take him at face value. We wanted to recruit but we couldn't and - scared by rules which are set out to keep the likes of us at arms length - took a decision in the best interests of the club.

 

I appreciated his honesty about the unsettledness of the players, which is really sad to hear but unsurprising. If that can't be repaired then we really are onto a season of treading water but there's plenty of evidence to suggest it can be. Not least the win the other night. 

Feel like it’s probably been said over and over, but it’s daft crying the PSR line and then bidding 60 odd million for Guehi. It’s contradictory imo.

[Yorkie]

1 hour ago, SUPERTOON said:

Feel like it’s probably been said over and over, but it’s daft crying the PSR line and then bidding 60 odd million for Guehi. It’s contradictory imo.

 

Where's the contradiction? It's not that there's no money, it's that we've tried to use our money on a few targets we believe in, but couldn't secure them. In that context, you then either spend the money on targets you don't believe in or you take (what they consider to be) the most risk-averse approach and do nothing. 

[huss9]

11 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Feel like it’s probably been said over and over, but it’s daft crying the PSR line and then bidding 60 odd million for Guehi. It’s contradictory imo.

he thought Guehi would come in and be a starter with minimum risk - CB sorted.

some of the alternatives may have been risks and if they didnt work out it leaves even less to spend.

probabaly also scarred by how difficult its been to get rid of certain players once you've signed them - even some first teamers.

 

 

Edited August 30, 2024 by huss9

[Weezertron]

PSR is the reality. Other teams have spent, but that's because they've also sold. The only time we have sold is to fix our overspending. 

 

I guess we just have to let the soft underbelly of our squad leave at the end of their contracts, cause they seemingly have no value to anyone else in the league. 

 

Hopefully some youth players can be promoted into their spots because theres no chance we can bring in 10 players when a bunch of contracts expire at the end of the season. 

 

Having said all this, we'll probably give a majority of them extensions and so the cycle continues. 

 

 

[PRL]

5 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

Where the contradiction? It's not that there's no money, it's that we've tried to use our money on a few targets we believe in, but couldn't secure them. In that context, you then either spend the money on targets you don't believe in or you take (what they consider to be) the most risk-averse approach and do nothing. 

I admire the positivity, but when I look at other clubs business, I really struggle that we had such a limited pool of options. We have seen players in the positions we need move or become available at prices we could have paid. I'm unsure why they aren't good enough for us or we cannot find players with the profile to be good enough. It's a big old world out there, where is the next Botman, Bruno or Isak? We will have to trust the club and none of us will ever know what the requirements are internally, but from the outside looking in, it is disappointing.

 

 

Edited August 30, 2024 by PRL

[Yorkie]

Just now, Weezertron said:

PSR is the reality. Other teams have spent, but that's because they've also sold. The only time we have sold is to fix our overspending. 

 

I guess we just have to let the soft underbelly of our squad leave at the end of their contracts, cause they seemingly have no value to anyone else in the league. 

 

Hopefully some youth players can be promoted into their spots because theres no chance we can bring in 10 players when a bunch of contracts expire at the end of the season. 

 

Having said all this, we'll probably give a majority of them extensions and so the cycle continues. 

 

This is such a crucial point which hasn't been raised enough in the whole debate. We absolutely have to press on with the academy development. There's clearly some green shoots but even our last DoF said fucking ages ago that we couldn't just keep having spenny transfer window after spenny transfer window. 

[huss9]

crystal ball time. 

may have been an idea to sell a "name" eg Gordon.

but we all would have fucking lost it.

 

people say brighton  have less ambition but they will overtake us this season.

 

PSR is to blame.

we arent in a place to risk more than £10m on a player unless we know he's class.

 

 

[Doops]

1 minute ago, Yorkie said:

 

Where the contradiction? It's not that there's no money, it's that we've tried to use our money on a few targets we believe in, but couldn't secure them. In that context, you either spend the money on targets you don't believe in or you take (what they consider to be) the most risk-averse approach and do nothing. 

How can they only have a few targets they believe in though? In the whole world there's only a few? It's just very odd. If you can't get what you want then surely you compromise for the next best thing on what should be an extensive list. These guys are on millions of pounds to create a highly intelligent plan. I don't think relying on what we have is too smart.

[timnufc22]

But surely there is a failure in scouting and judgement if you cant identify more than just a handful of players who are good enough to improve us and would come, baring in mind you have £70m to play with.

[Gallowgate Toon]

3 minutes ago, huss9 said:

crystal ball time. 

may have been an idea to sell a "name" eg Gordon.

but we all would have fucking lost it.

 

people say brighton  have less ambition but they will overtake us this season.

 

PSR is to blame.

we arent in a place to risk more than £10m on a player unless we know he's class.

 

 

I really don't rate their business that highly  squad feels imbalanced and I don't think their spine is strong. Big unknowns with the coach too.

 

Obviously, I'd love to have been as busy as them in the window.

 

 

Edited August 30, 2024 by Gallowgate Toon