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3 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Feels like a turning point week, Howe has made a few changes which we have been crying out for, and we have reaped the rewards.

 

Tbf, it took a brave man to take out Tonali and Kelly after midweek but he did it. And he was right.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Elliottman said:

Always turns it around when his back is to the wall. Love the bloke. A lot more like our old horrible bastard selves today. 

Definitely a vintage Howe type performance today. 

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Interesting and effective mix of going back to old ways and introducing new elements. 
 

Big Joe, Little Joe combination down the left.  Longstaff in midfield.  No Tonali. dark arts. Aggressive.  First to the ball. 
 

But also more of a 442 shape off the ball worked a lot better. Allowed us to press higher. Less pressing from Isak but Joe’s pressing so high helps us.  

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Looked so so good today man. Beautiful balance throughout the team.

 

Eddie please keep the Joes together and let Gordon and Tino continue to build on their relationship down the right.

 

Very exciting changes.

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5 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Interesting and effective mix of going back to old ways and introducing new elements. 
 

Big Joe, Little Joe combination down the left.  Longstaff in midfield.  No Tonali. dark arts. Aggressive.  First to the ball. 
 

But also more of a 442 shape off the ball worked a lot better. Allowed us to press higher. Less pressing from Isak but Joe’s pressing so high helps us.  

 

 

Our shape looked a lot better suited to the players we had out there.

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Without wanting to be overly negative, as we were obviously excellent today, this is the kind of game we generally show up in. I'll be more convinced we've turned the corner this season if we can put in good performances and pick up positive results over the next three matches. 

 

It's no good putting on a colossal showing like today if we get rolled over at Forest and Palace. This result needs to kick start our season. 

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1 minute ago, Andy said:

Without wanting to be overly negative, as we were obviously excellent today, this is the kind of game we generally show up in. I'll be more convinced we've turned the corner this season if we can put in good performances and pick up positive results over the next three matches. 

 

It's no good putting on a colossal showing like today if we get rolled over at Forest and Palace. This result needs to kick start our season. 

True

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10 league games played now, usually enough to shake things out and point to where teams are likely to finish.

 

I would rate 15 points and a home tie away from a Carabao semi as about a B minus. Spurs, City, Chelsea, Arsenal, and Brighton all played, so maybe a little harsh. Score the penalty at Everton and its a strong B. The main thing is Tonali and Willock are back and up to speed and the full backs are blossoming. Only two more games this month, but we're playing well and will go into them with momentum. I felt Tonali still missing at the start of the season and the Schar red in the opener really put a dampener on August. We're off and running now though.

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2 minutes ago, Andy said:

Without wanting to be overly negative, as we were obviously excellent today, this is the kind of game we generally show up in. I'll be more convinced we've turned the corner this season if we can put in good performances and pick up positive results over the next three matches. 

 

It's no good putting on a colossal showing like today if we get rolled over at Forest and Palace. This result needs to kick start our season. 

True. But Forest have been brilliant this season. 

If we don’t get at least 4 points from Palace and West Ham I’d be disappointed. 

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3 minutes ago, Andy said:

Without wanting to be overly negative, as we were obviously excellent today, this is the kind of game we generally show up in. I'll be more convinced we've turned the corner this season if we can put in good performances and pick up positive results over the next three matches. 

 

It's no good putting on a colossal showing like today if we get rolled over at Forest and Palace. This result needs to kick start our season. 

 

Yes, this is true.

 

However, some key changes made have made a big difference and unlocked us in a way.

 

There's a fantastic balance and chemistry we've managed the last couple of games that will carry through I think.

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LOL. I do think it’s easier to setup well tactically defensively than offensively. Biggest tactical shift was the OOP press which was impressive. Otherwise going back to old working relationships and more importantly attitudes got us the win. 
 

Arsenal biggest issue is they only have one route to goal without Odegaard.  And they were off it physically and mentally. We beat them to the punch time and again which is crucial.  All wingers lost their individual battles. They looked good at 0-0 I thought. But once we scored they didn’t have answers.
 

Last 20 went to that 451 shape that invites attack after attack that I really hate. But Arsenal didn’t have any inventiveness to take advantage and our lads gave it 100%. Bodies on the line etc.  That low block 451 no press, is hard on our players mentally and physically and needs them to be right up for it to work.  

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He needed the last 2 results. Tbh, Chelsea away wasn't awful, more down to individuals making stupid errors. 

 

Forest will be tough the form they are in. Palace won't be easy either. 4pts from that (Inc a home win against wham) and it's been a good start to the season.

 

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