Guest HTT II Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) I’d be warm to the idea of Gerrard having done a bit of research on his methods, their coaching set up and listening to a few Rangers fans I personally know (who also follow the Toon, although one says his Rangers side would get battered off say Norwich). He wouldn’t take any shit from the players or media, he’d have them in training every day and in terms of leadership and direction, he was pretty much Rafa’s number 2 out on the pitch for Liverpool. Even Rafa himself said with him in the team, it made it much easier for him as he effectively had him managing the team on the pitch for him. To do what he has done at Ranges despite the poor standard and lack of real competition even in Celtic recently, he has galvanised a whole club that was in crisis with an average team for that level into unbeaten Champions who have had a few good results in Europe and that takes some skill and mettle in a City like Glasgow in his first job. Edited October 19, 2021 by HTT II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) Emery of course has a proven track record, has experience of this league and I thought was unfairly dismissed at Arsenal, even the media delighted in taking the piss out of him which shows their anti foreign prejudices. He’s more akin to Rafa, well organised teams, tactically astute, high energy and pragmatic in attack. Like with Rafa, once he identifies the players he needs and gets them in attack, his sides become more expansive and more attacking. Our weakest area is in defence right now and he’d be more than capable of sorting that out. Ironically our strength under Rafa was our defence which once we got Almiron and Rondon in especially, allowed us to be more attacking which was based on the solid foundations of a strong defence. Edited October 19, 2021 by HTT II Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ9 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, HTT II said: I’d be warm to the idea of Gerrard having done a bit of research on his methods, their coaching set up and listening to a few Rangers fans I personally know (who also follow the Toon, although one says his Rangers side would get battered off say Norwich). He wouldn’t take any shit from the players or media, he’d have them in training every day and in terms of leadership and direction, he was pretty much Rafa’s number 2 out on the pitch for Liverpool. Even Rafa himself said with him in the team, it made it much easier for him as he effectively had him managing the team on the pitch for him. To do what he has done at Ranges despite the poor standard and lack of real competition even in Celtic recently, he has galvanised a whole club that was in crisis with an average team for that level into unbeaten Champions who have had a few good results in Europe and that takes some skill and mettle in a City like Glasgow in his first job. Agree with most of this (especially the leadership/training angle), but there are also some worries about his time at Rangers. 1. Celtic were worse than shite last season so the league title needs to be seen in that context and 2. He really should have made it a treble as well. Couple of really shit displays in the cup when Celtic were nowhere to be seen. I'd rather someone else, but he's also clearly a lot better than Bruce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Even if you liked the idea of Steven Gerrard, every time we win we'd have to put up with that tedious narrative about him going to Liverpool. I think he always comes across in a really annoying way whenever I've seen him in the media. "I'm a disciplinarian, you know." Yeah, alright, you're not afraid to slag off your players/anyone else in the media, good on you, change the record. But then you can't deny his achievements there and it would be exciting to appoint a younger and more up-and-coming manager. Would be a satisfying tonic to what we've dealt with the last two and a bit years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 10 minutes ago, alijmitchell said: Agree with most of this (especially the leadership/training angle), but there are also some worries about his time at Rangers. 1. Celtic were worse than shite last season so the league title needs to be seen in that context and 2. He really should have made it a treble as well. Couple of really shit displays in the cup when Celtic were nowhere to be seen. I'd rather someone else, but he's also clearly a lot better than Bruce. Short-term, he’ll be coming into a club in crisis just like Rangers were and yes winning the SPL isn’t exactly a stellar achievement, but the manner in which they did, where they had come from before they did and this being his first job with unbelievable pressure shows he has at least something about him and overall suggests he has done nothing other than a brilliant job there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 The whole of twitter seem to be pushing Howe now, massive jump on Bruce. Its who we were all happy with pre takeover as an option and with some backing in January we’ll easy push up and out of the relegation zone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 If it’s a between Gerrard and Emery then it’s a no brainer really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, RodneyCisse said: The whole of twitter seem to be pushing Howe now, massive jump on Bruce. Its who we were all happy with pre takeover as an option and with some backing in January we’ll easy push up and out of the relegation zone. I think he would be an awful appointment personally and could still see us going down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Even if you liked the idea of Steven Gerrard, every time we win we'd have to put up with that tedious narrative about him going to Liverpool. I think he always comes across in a really annoying way whenever I've seen him in the media. "I'm a disciplinarian, you know." Yeah, alright, you're not afraid to slag off your players/anyone else in the media, good on you, change the record. But then you can't deny his achievements there and it would be exciting to appoint a younger and more up-and-coming manager. Would be a satisfying tonic to what we've dealt with the last two and a bit years. I honestly wouldn’t be bothered about any Liverpool narrative, if he say did come here and moved onto LFC at some point it would mean he would have done a good job here and if so, by that stage, we will be in a position to appoint another good manager or someone way better. It’s kind of a win win situation from where we are at right now. And if not, again, any future manager/s from now on in will have to be successful with performances to match or they will be replaced. If that is Gerrard or Emery or whoever… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Not keen on some of the names being bandied around. Gerrard, Lampard, Martinez etc. Emery yes but prefer Conte. Whoever comes in has a big job on just knocking this lot into shape, mentally and physically Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ9 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I’d quite like the Gerrard thing just to piss off a load of blue-nosers in my family ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Rafa was fucking ideal man - then and now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wibble Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Interesting write-up on Howe, sounds canny to me: https://bournemouth.vitalfootball.co.uk/the-highs-and-highs-of-howe-at-bournemouth/amp/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Couldn't put up with Emery. We've just had a weekend of tea towels and fake sheiks so don't want a weekend of blokes dressed as women pushing people over shouting "Oooh you are awful.....but I like you". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, jackyboy said: Not keen on some of the names being bandied around. Gerrard, Lampard, Martinez etc. Emery yes but prefer Conte. Whoever comes in has a big job on just knocking this lot into shape, mentally and physically It’s a tricky one because we are into the season, are in a relegation fight and we are not a top side so our options are going to be limited. Ideally we would throw whatever it takes to bring say a Conte in and just give him what he wants, but even that brings its own risks. I’m genuinely trying to put myself in the new owners’ shoes and thinking what is best right now and honestly, other than Bruce HAS to go, I don’t envy their position. I think any half competent manager, be it Gerrard or Howe or higher up the scale in Emery, with good backing in January, keeps us up easily. The difficultly is we are in between a rock and a stone, short-term vs long-term. The longer Bruce stays and the damage him remaining causes, however, puts is in an even worse position. We cannot afford to lose against Palace which is a must win game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 (edited) I'd take Howe, like. He'd be an incredible upgrade on what we've got at the minute and I think he'd surprise a few people. He'd have us safe but would be disposable should they want to appoint their long-term candidate in the summer. Edited October 19, 2021 by NEEJ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I'm in the Howe camp I reckon. Got to be ballsy now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 howe would be very underwhelming for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Dandy Don said: Depends how much he loves the wife.? Everyone goes to SJP to get away from the wife. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Howe would sort out our attacking side more than the defence, but with structure and a system which ideally you’d hope would ease pressure on the defence so that side would improve too. I rate him and he’d be a good appointment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 What's Howe done to get this credit? His team was regularly getting smashed in the Prem, if you think we can't defend now, I'd imagine you haven't seen Bournemouth play last few years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Why are we even talking about Howe if he doesn't want to move from the south coast? He's not exactly Simeone, if he's not sure, then fuck him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_F Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Would be slightly underwhelmed with Howe but obviously he'd be a massive improvement on Bruce. If we can't get any of our main targets at the minute let's get it done man asap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Menace said: What's Howe done to get this credit? His team was regularly getting smashed in the Prem, if you think we can't defend now, I'd imagine you haven't seen Bournemouth play last few years I’d gladly to have taken him in the Ashley era. Incredibly underwhelming under the new owners. He didn’t half fuck Celtic about as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Menace said: What's Howe done to get this credit? His team was regularly getting smashed in the Prem, if you think we can't defend now, I'd imagine you haven't seen Bournemouth play last few years probs something to do with the whole 'making fucking Bournemouth an established Premier League club'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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