Manxst Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Just now, Shearergol said: Everton have made significant losses for years now. It’s why Rafa spent about £2m in summer. Not through lack of money, but through FFP regulations not allowing them to spend any more at the present time was my understanding? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Manxst said: They don’t need any money. And like the other PL teams, I imagine they’ll turn down Saudi money out of spite. You are right that Everton wouldn't let Rafa go in any circumstance but you are off your tits if you think any PL club has the morals to turn down Saudi money. Besides, it's not Saudi money, it's Newcastle United money for the time being. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Just now, Manxst said: Not through lack of money, but through FFP regulations not allowing them to spend any more at the present time was my understanding? But doesn’t a big wedge of cash for their manager start to swing that the other way? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Just now, Shearergol said: But doesn’t a big wedge of cash for their manager start to swing that the other way? I honestly don’t know, and don’t fully understand the regulations. I presume it wouldn’t be seen as revenue and so wouldn’t have an impact on what they could spend? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, STM said: You are right that Everton wouldn't let Rafa go in any circumstance but you are off your tits if you think any PL club has the morals to turn down Saudi money. Besides, it's not Saudi money, it's Newcastle United money for the time being. You seriously think if we offered decent money for Salah, Liverpool wouldn’t knock it back? If they don’t NEED the cash, there’s no way they’d accept it, imo. Stupid money, then yes, they’d undoubtedly accept, as that would outweigh the benefit we would be purchasing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Rafa won't leave Everton because he has a contract and Everton won't accept any amount for him because it would be a terrible decision. Its a non starter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 apropos of nothing but my own gut instinct I highly highly highly highly doubt it's rafa. All the reasons why it "makes sense" sound like the kind of lunatic scribblings you find in a love letter from a stalker to his celebrity crush on why they're destined to be together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, thomas said: apropos of nothing but my own gut instinct I highly highly highly highly doubt it's rafa. All the reasons why it "makes sense" sound like the kind of lunatic scribblings you find in a love letter from a stalker to his celebrity crush on why they're destined to be together. I mean, that description is this place with Rafa down to a T Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, Manxst said: You seriously think if we offered decent money for Salah, Liverpool wouldn’t knock it back? If they don’t NEED the cash, there’s no way they’d accept it, imo. Stupid money, then yes, they’d undoubtedly accept, as that would outweigh the benefit we would be purchasing. Liverpool wouldn't accept money for Salah because they are Liverpool and he is Mo Salah. It has nothing to do with the origin of the money. You said clubs would turn down Saudi money out of spite, which just isn't going to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Just now, STM said: Liverpool wouldn't accept money for Salah because they are Liverpool and he is Mo Salah. It has nothing to do with the origin of the money. You said clubs would turn down Saudi money out of spite, which just isn't going to happen. If they don’t need the cash, and think any purchase will make us stronger compared to them, then yeah, I see it as a possibility. Just my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 There is no way Rafa would break his contract. Just no way. Wenger maybe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DahnSahf Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, thomas said: apropos of nothing but my own gut instinct I highly highly highly highly doubt it's rafa. All the reasons why it "makes sense" sound like the kind of lunatic scribblings you find in a love letter from a stalker to his celebrity crush on why they're destined to be together. Fuck, that's why Charlize never replied then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 1 minute ago, STM said: Liverpool wouldn't accept money for Salah because they are Liverpool and he is Mo Salah. It has nothing to do with the origin of the money. You said clubs would turn down Saudi money out of spite, which just isn't going to happen. TBH I think they would initially as the longer they stop us from competing the better as far as they are concerned, which is why I would primarily focus on players from Europe initially until we become the team PL players want to play for and can then force through a move Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Manxst said: If they don’t need the cash, and think any purchase will make us stronger compared to them, then yeah, I see it as a possibility. Just my opinion. Still has nothing to do with it being Saudi money. There's tonnes of reasons why clubs will refuse or bids etc, none of them are moralistic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Just now, nufcnick said: TBH I think they would initially as the longer they stop us from competing the better as far as they are concerned, which is why I would primarily focus on players from Europe initially until we become the team PL players want to play for and can then force through a move The price of players would increase for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Maybe if Everton lose the next couple they will think let’s get some money for him and save a bit of face, everyone is a winner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Maybe if Everton lose the next couple they will think let’s get some money for him and save a bit of face, everyone is a winner Rafas demise at Everton seems inevitable. The fans just don't want him. However, I doubt results will be the killer for him. He will at least get a top 8 finish. It's more likely they will mutually part ways at some point or he will see out his contract. Bad timing for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapo Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Probably going against the tide here but I have no desire for Rafa to return. Was gutted when he left and all but I’d rather a completely fresh setup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 It took Everton a long time and a lot of meetings before deciding to go with Rafa. Maybe he was demanding a buy out clause be put in his contract if certain approaches were made and Everton weren't happy about it but buckled in the end. Wishful thinking I know but so was the takeover Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misa Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 I 100% agree there is no way Rafa will break his contract. However, I also believe if Everton's loses a few games the minority fan base who hates Rafa might shout loud enough that the club sacks him, ignoring that their squad was terrible outside of the first 11 and the injuries they have to their key players now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 It took Everton a long time and a lot of meetings before deciding to go with Rafa. Maybe he was demanding a buy out clause be put in his contract if certain approaches were made and Everton weren't happy about it but buckled in the end. Wishful thinking I know but so was the takeover Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 22 minutes ago, LV said: There is no way Rafa would break his contract. Just no way. Wenger maybe? Good shout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 I just cannot see Wenger getting back into management. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeepShow4life Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Rafa is great but I think people need to move on. There's still people on here wanting Keegan back as manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeepShow4life Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Wenger might be more interested in the DOF role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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