LV Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 There is no way Rafa would break his contract. Just no way. Wenger maybe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DahnSahf Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, thomas said: apropos of nothing but my own gut instinct I highly highly highly highly doubt it's rafa. All the reasons why it "makes sense" sound like the kind of lunatic scribblings you find in a love letter from a stalker to his celebrity crush on why they're destined to be together. Fuck, that's why Charlize never replied then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcnick Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 1 minute ago, STM said: Liverpool wouldn't accept money for Salah because they are Liverpool and he is Mo Salah. It has nothing to do with the origin of the money. You said clubs would turn down Saudi money out of spite, which just isn't going to happen. TBH I think they would initially as the longer they stop us from competing the better as far as they are concerned, which is why I would primarily focus on players from Europe initially until we become the team PL players want to play for and can then force through a move Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Manxst said: If they don’t need the cash, and think any purchase will make us stronger compared to them, then yeah, I see it as a possibility. Just my opinion. Still has nothing to do with it being Saudi money. There's tonnes of reasons why clubs will refuse or bids etc, none of them are moralistic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Just now, nufcnick said: TBH I think they would initially as the longer they stop us from competing the better as far as they are concerned, which is why I would primarily focus on players from Europe initially until we become the team PL players want to play for and can then force through a move The price of players would increase for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Maybe if Everton lose the next couple they will think let’s get some money for him and save a bit of face, everyone is a winner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Maybe if Everton lose the next couple they will think let’s get some money for him and save a bit of face, everyone is a winner Rafas demise at Everton seems inevitable. The fans just don't want him. However, I doubt results will be the killer for him. He will at least get a top 8 finish. It's more likely they will mutually part ways at some point or he will see out his contract. Bad timing for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapo Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Probably going against the tide here but I have no desire for Rafa to return. Was gutted when he left and all but I’d rather a completely fresh setup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 It took Everton a long time and a lot of meetings before deciding to go with Rafa. Maybe he was demanding a buy out clause be put in his contract if certain approaches were made and Everton weren't happy about it but buckled in the end. Wishful thinking I know but so was the takeover Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misa Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 I 100% agree there is no way Rafa will break his contract. However, I also believe if Everton's loses a few games the minority fan base who hates Rafa might shout loud enough that the club sacks him, ignoring that their squad was terrible outside of the first 11 and the injuries they have to their key players now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 It took Everton a long time and a lot of meetings before deciding to go with Rafa. Maybe he was demanding a buy out clause be put in his contract if certain approaches were made and Everton weren't happy about it but buckled in the end. Wishful thinking I know but so was the takeover Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 22 minutes ago, LV said: There is no way Rafa would break his contract. Just no way. Wenger maybe? Good shout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 I just cannot see Wenger getting back into management. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeepShow4life Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Rafa is great but I think people need to move on. There's still people on here wanting Keegan back as manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeepShow4life Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Wenger might be more interested in the DOF role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 20 minutes ago, CFlan said: Probably going against the tide here but I have no desire for Rafa to return. Was gutted when he left and all but I’d rather a completely fresh setup. I get the idea, still think he would be perfect for us over the first few years of this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Not sure I would want wenger anywhere near us based on some of his ideas on the World Cup every 2 years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 13 minutes ago, elbee909 said: I just cannot see Wenger getting back into management. "There are always people who say ‘You are too old’ so at the time, maybe I thought they were right, but I am in good shape and I have not completely decided not to do it anymore," Arsene Wenger 21/09/2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 If reports that they want a short term appointment are correct, someone like Wenger might not be that unrealistic. He won't want a long term project but he'd be a very safe pair of hands to take us through to the summer and would be a great football advisor for the new board as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 28 minutes ago, CFlan said: Probably going against the tide here but I have no desire for Rafa to return. Was gutted when he left and all but I’d rather a completely fresh setup. I was never that enamoured with his style of play here and find the adulation for his time here a case of overpraising. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emotic Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 If the owners are advised well, they'd be savvy to the footballing "philosophies" they'd want to pursue - and then look for the DoF and manager who'd work in synergy in accordance to these philosophies. Say, Rafa as a manager and Rangnick as a DoF may work because they are both smart, meticulous students of the game - but their styles aren't really aligned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misa Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, madras said: I was never that enamoured with his style of play here and find the adulation for his time here a case of overpraising. Style of play is dependant on the players he has. I would say being top 3 or 4 in creating big chances to conceding big chances ratio in Europe right now is a pretty good style to have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Misa said: Style of play is dependant on the players he has. I would say being top 3 or 4 in creating big chances to conceding big chances ratio in Europe right now is a pretty good style to have. I regularly had a go at him in the championship for being too pragmatic in the championship when he had the largest and most talented squad there. Also we should use the same standards for Bruce then, do you think he wanted Joelinton ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumbheed Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 (edited) Rafa would still be my first choice. 0% chance of it happening but he ticks every single box. Whilst his style of play was more functional than anything else, I found it cathartic having a manager who was actually able to implement a clear identity on the team and have us defensively organised. Furthermore, that period after Almiron signed was one of the best spells we'd seen at the club since 2008 when Keegan had Owen playing as a number 10. I choose to beleive that period would be more indicative of what he'd achieve with some funds rather than the prior 18 months when he was managing uphill. Not to mention he's been the only manager to engage football at a grassroot level since Keegan himself, he just gets it. Edited October 23, 2021 by Thumbheed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 42 minutes ago, CFlan said: Probably going against the tide here but I have no desire for Rafa to return. Was gutted when he left and all but I’d rather a completely fresh setup. I agree actually. Want to see someone new have a go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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