Ganninup Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: Howe is a young, progressive coach lightyears from the PFMness of Pardew. Would be far from a disastrous appointment but not the best one we could make. At one stage Pardew was considered quite the young progressive coach- at reading and west ham. It was his personality that tended to fuck things up as opposed to his coaching Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Ganninup said: At one stage Pardew was considered quite the young progressive coach- at reading and west ham. It was his personality that tended to fuck things up as opposed to his coaching What was considered progressive in the mid 00's is far from what is now. Howe, Potter and maybe even Parker are far from Pardew, Wilder, maybe even Hughton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wfmk2 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 PFM? I keep see it coming up in the thread. I know it's a reference to British dinosaur managers, but can't work out what PFM actually stands for! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Just now, wfmk2 said: PFM? I keep see it coming up in the thread. I know it's a reference to British dinosaur managers, but can't work out what PFM actually stands for! Proper football man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wfmk2 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Just now, HaydnNUFC said: Proper football man. thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 31 minutes ago, jdckelly said: didn't howe get homesick at Burnley? hard to see him venturing too far away from the south coast again if he can help it I read an article last year (can't remember where, I was sure it was the Athletic but can't find it now so perhaps the Times) where he explained the Burnley 'failure' thing and it wasn't actual homesickness that caused his issues, his mother was seriously ill and eventually passed away. He was commuting between the two places and couldn't cope with the mental torment without his family around him. He said in the same article that he doesn't see this as an issue for him going forwards (working away from the south coast). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wfmk2 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Just now, Minhosa said: I read an article last year (can't remember where, I was sure it was the Athletic but can't find it now so perhaps the Times) where he explained the Burnley 'failure' thing and it wasn't actual homesickness that caused his issues, his mother was seriously ill and eventually passed away. He was commuting between the two places and couldn't cope with the mental torment without his family around him. He said in the same article that he doesn't see this as an issue for him going forwards (working away from the south coast). https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/19937083 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 1 minute ago, wfmk2 said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/19937083 Ah thanks - that wasn't the original article but is along similar lines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Pilgrim Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Give me rumours or give me death Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganninup Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: What was considered progressive in the mid 00's is far from what is now. Howe, Potter and maybe even Parker are far from Pardew, Wilder, maybe even Hughton. Thats fair, but what i meant was at that point in time he was young and progressive by the standards of said time. You cant truly judge Howe, Potter and Parker vs the Pardew we now know and love now. They are all at different stages in their career. I think Parker has a long way to go. Howe did a great job at Bournemouth for a number of years but then was relegated. Parker has had a promotion and a relegation but hasnt achieved what Howe has. Potter so far seems to be showing he can do more than just keep a small club up, but again early days. Personally if we go english we should gamble and go for Potter in my opinion. Id prefer someone non British if only because of the media. Sad to say this as my happiest times were with Keegan and Robson as manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Anyone know why Howe deliberated for months over the Celtic job when all agreed for him to ultimately turn it down at the 11th hour? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Pilgrim Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Just now, LFEE said: Anyone know why Howe deliberated for months over the Celtic job when all agreed for him to ultimately turn it down at the 11th hour? Celtic are terrible and need a full on rebuild with no money while rangers are doing okay and on the up. It was a bad job. But equally I don’t really rate Howe so at least he had the foresight not to take on the job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Billy Pilgrim said: Celtic are terrible and need a full on rebuild with no money while rangers are doing okay and on the up. It was a bad job. But equally I don’t really rate Howe so at least he had the foresight not to take on the job. Yes but why did it take him months to give them an answer? My suspicion was he needed to convince his family to move North and couldn’t in the end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Given that it's a slow news day, I've added a poll to the thread for who you would most want out of the top 10 in the current betting odds: Paulo Fonseca Frank Lampard Lucien Favre Eddie Howe Roberto Martinez Steven Gerrard Unai Emery Erik ten Hag Brendan Rodgers Rafael Benitez Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maze Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Just now, Rich said: Given that it's a slow news day, I've added a poll to the thread for who you would want out of the top 10 in the current betting odds: Paulo Fonseca Frank Lampard Lucien Favre Eddie Howe Roberto Martinez Steven Gerrard Unai Emery Erik ten Hag Brendan Rodgers Rafael Benitez Can only vote for one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Just now, maze said: Can only vote for one? Aye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Pardew Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Howe is NOT the solution. People always go on about what a great job he did at Bournemouth, but they never mention the absolute truckloads of money he spent to get where they got. £180m! And it all went tits up at the end. Don't want him here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 My reflex was Emery and I don't know why. Fonseca is the sexier option. Rafa is tugging at the heart strings. But hey ho. I'll stick with my gut. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, Alan Pardew said: Howe is NOT the solution. People always go on about what a great job he did at Bournemouth, but they never mention the absolute truckloads of money he spent to get where they got. £180m! And it all went tits up at the end. Don't want him here. I smell Gallowgate End. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 It seems people have really bought into the Fonseca hype. I'll confess to knowing very little about him. I've watched a couple of breakdowns about his tactics and while they were on the whole positive, there are questions about his sides defensive records and off ball tactics. I'd certainly get behind him, but I feel like him, Howe and to a larger extent Martinez have similar weaknesses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCormick Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, Rich said: Given that it's a slow news day, I've added a poll to the thread for who you would most want out of the top 10 in the current betting odds: Paulo Fonseca Frank Lampard Lucien Favre Eddie Howe Roberto Martinez Steven Gerrard Unai Emery Erik ten Hag Brendan Rodgers Rafael Benitez Erik ten Hag Brendan Rodgers Rafael Benitez Unai Emery Paulo Fonseca Lucian Favre Eddie Howe/ Martinez/Gerard Lampard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 My heart wants Rafa back but my head tells me that he's done his job here. My head tells me ETH or Fonseca. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 I like this new feature where you can see who said what, means we can out the freaks from now on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 Ten Hag > Emery > Rodgers > Benitez > Fonseca > Favre > Howe > Gerrard > Martinez/Lampard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted October 25, 2021 Share Posted October 25, 2021 (edited) I still find it funny that people sleep on the job Howe did at Bournemouth. I rate him personally, think hes a decent manager and has room to grow, would he be my first pick probably not, but I wouldn't turn my nose at him. Also fairly certain the reason he ended up turning Celtic down is due to him wanting his own staff to come in, and Celtic fucked around appointing said staff for an age before Howe went "Fuck this". Personally voted for Emery as think he'd be perfect for what we need right now, would obviously love Rafa but thats never happening. Benitez > Emery > Ten Hag > Fonseca > Rodgers > Howe > Favre > Gerrard > Lampard > Martinez Edited October 25, 2021 by 54 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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