Holloway Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 The first half of that game today we did ok, created a few good chances that we should have taken, we certainly weren`t rank. 2nd was a different story where our deficiencies were magnified, and not helped by poor/baffling changes by the gaffer. And it all ended up fucking stinking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlymouthGeordie Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 37 minutes ago, dazzanufc1892 said: Yeah this is the issue, I dont see how the club would still have him in 18 months if we stay up. Especially not with the current ambition the club are showing in the market. It wasn't a great appointment but its what we have at the moment and he should be judged on the same merit of everybody else. There is improvement but I cant believe that wouldnt have happened with any manager given what was there before them. The next month will be telling and ultimately define where we will be come August and who will be at the helm. I think he's a good appointment, he speaks well, has clear ideas and will build the club like Rafa would've (albeit with completely different philosophies). Today aside, I think he's been massively unlucky. Norwich - We should have won with 10 and surely would've won with 11. Brentford - Should've won and he couldn't even be there because of Covid. Man Utd - Should've won. Leicester - Maddison dive took the game away from us. Liverpool - Their first goal gets disallowed 99 times out of 100. Today is the first time I've been disappointed with his post match comments. Claiming we played well is Bruce-esque but I get why he's done it. He has to salvage what little confidence the players have remaining. So much rests on the Watford match but if do win it I really fancy us to survive. He still has my full support and should we go down I'd be happy for him to remain as manager. I'm just not sure PIF will feel the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
number9shirt Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Shearergol said: don’t want him sacked though? Not yet but how far away are we from having that conversation? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 It’s easy to underestimate just how bad our squad is. Rafa (maybe the most organised manager in the world) got a tune out of them 3 years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlymouthGeordie Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 1 minute ago, number9shirt said: Not yet but how far away are we from having that conversation? He gets the remainder of the season for me with no questions asked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 47 minutes ago, HTT II said: Crowd were fully behind him today, towards the end any anger was directed towards the players. The crowd will stay behind him until they see him fail with his own players. Toon fans have always supported attacking football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yelevats Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Based on his start he’s taking us down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlymouthGeordie Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said: It’s easy to underestimate just how bad our squad is. Rafa (maybe the most organised manager in the world) got a tune out of them 3 years ago. Yep and that was when Clark, Ritchie, Dubravka and Dummett were competent and consistently available. Time/ Injuries have sadly caught up with all 4 and left us severely depleted down the left hand side (excluding Dubravka obviously). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 You can see what Howe is trying to do, I'm just not sure we have the players to execute it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, Yelevats said: Based on his start he’s taking us down Pep would take us down too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, Yelevats said: Based on his start he’s taking us down We get the message. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Bringing in some competent footballers in our weakest positions is paramount now if we're to survive. Trippier looked head and shoulders above the rest today, composed, commanding, good at the back and can make an actual pass to his intended target. More players that can execute Howe's philosophy will make a huge difference. Once we have a new spine we can judge him effectively, unfair to do so just yet given the change he's made so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Deserves the criticism for today, no doubt about it. Its one of the worst or most embarrassing results in our history imo. But he picked a strong enough team. That side was good enough to beat a team 4 points from the League One bottom 4. Players need to take a good fucking look at themselves because the attitude from them besides Trippier was absolutely rancid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 I feel sorry for the manager in many ways because look what he inherited. Something went absolutely rotten at the club from the end of last season. Eddie Howe needs to identify what or who it is and cut it out before it’s too late. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said: Deserves the criticism for today, no doubt about it. Its one of the worst or most embarrassing results in our history imo. But he picked a strong enough team. That side was good enough to beat a team 4 points from the League One bottom 4. Players need to take a good fucking look at themselves because the attitude from them besides Trippier was absolutely rancid. Eh? Trippier was comfortably our best player like. No idea what you were watching. Edit: misread…sorry. Edited January 8, 2022 by Shadow Puppets Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Just now, Shadow Puppets said: Eh? Trippier was comfortably our best player like. No idea what you were watching. Reread what he said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Just now, Dr Jinx said: I feel sorry for the manager in many ways because look what he inherited. Something went absolutely rotten at the club from the end of last season. Eddie Howe needs to identify what or who it is and cut it out before it’s too late. It would be easier to identify the players not to cut. Trippier Wilson that's about it. Can keep Max for this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 Just now, Shadow Puppets said: Eh? Trippier was comfortably our best player like. No idea what you were watching. Read it again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Dr Jinx said: I feel sorry for the manager in many ways because look what he inherited. Something went absolutely rotten at the club from the end of last season. Eddie Howe needs to identify what or who it is and cut it out before it’s too late. The club has been rotting from the top ever since Ashley bought the club. We've got new owners, but it's gonna take a long time to fix and things may have to get worse before they get better. Ashley has well and truly left his mark. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzaschicken Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 10 minutes ago, Yelevats said: Based on his start he’s taking us down Shite comment this we were down before he came, we have all waited for January now its here.... He's improved us massively we are still lucky to be 3 points off safety and realistically could have been 1 or 2 points either side of safety if our luck was better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Gazzaschicken said: Shite comment this we were down before he came, we have all waited for January now its here.... He's improved us massively we are still lucky to be 3 points off safety and realistically could have been 1 or 2 points either side of safety if our luck was better He's a WUM, man. Ignore him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 I don’t think we’ll go down based on how shit the teams around us are doing. Bit this window needs to be absolute carnage, ruthless in terms of shifting players out. It’s like muscle memory of being shit.. they simply can’t adjust to wanting to be better. For me it starts with the captain, he’s been a mute ever since the backlash he got for defending Ashley a few years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 11 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said: I don’t think we’ll go down based on how shit the teams around us are doing. Bit this window needs to be absolute carnage, ruthless in terms of shifting players out. It’s like muscle memory of being shit.. they simply can’t adjust to wanting to be better. For me it starts with the captain, he’s been a mute ever since the backlash he got for defending Ashley a few years ago. Lascelles needs stripped of captaincy for sure, he's not good enough on the pitch, not vocal enough on or off the pitch and about to be replaced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 30 minutes ago, Yelevats said: Based on his start he’s taking us down You are obviously talking bollox! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 We need huge movement this week in reality. As it is we're going to get beat by Watford and they could well then be 11 points away by the time we play Leeds. I just feel there's gunna be too much pressure and we'll crumble though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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