Eddie Howe

[TRon]

3 hours ago, Kanji said:

It should have gone to Howe; simple for me. Nobody has ever survived going 14 without a win. We did. We were 2nd bottom on Jan 15 and on May 22nd we were 11th with a top 4 point collection in calendar year 2022. 

 

This. And he did it despite his two star players getting injured shortly after he arrived. Easy to forget in hindsight, but at the time even survival looked impossible, that we ended up finish 11th and 4th in the form table in that time is nothing short of a miracle, but hey ho Liverpool...walk on, walk O-O-N!! etc.

[tomlynnherrington]

Getting hammered off Man City might have swayed it.

[Mansour]

2 hours ago, Groundhog63 said:

As I said, Howe all day for me but I do recognise how good Klopp is.

 

Liverpool v City, spends, for eg... 

 

https://www.si.com/.amp/soccer/2022/05/03/liverpool-outlook-jurgen-klopp-contract-champions-league-salah-mane

 

Klopp is certainly good, one of the best in his generation. The issue is not about his quality, it is more about the narrative that he is doing more than expected just because he is not spending as much as his rivals.

 

Pedro (free) Villa (40m) Messi (fee)

 

Iniesta (free) Busquets (free) Xavi (free)

 

Abidal (15m) Pique (5m) Puyol (free) Alves (35m)

 

Valdes (free)

 

The cost of one if not the best starting 11 in football history was 95m

 

What I am trying to say is that the quality of the squad should not be judged by how much you have spent to build it, rather how much you are spending to keep it = salary. Although Klopp has not spent as much as Pep, he still has as good of a squad as Pep; therefore, both should be held to the same standards in my opinion.

 

 

Edited May 25, 2022 by Mansour

[Groundhog63]

Me too Sean, me too

[Ste]

Klopp should have been awarded the honours of first placed loser. MOTY should have went to Pep ahead of him.

[Cronky]

On 25/05/2022 at 18:23, Groundhog63 said:

Me too Sean, me too

 

Great to hear. The problem did seem to be between his ears, and he's now back on track. I wasn't quite ready to give up on him, and it'll be interesting to see what Howe makes of him, building on his strengths.

 

Needs to lose the tache though.

 

[The College Dropout]

Vieira was tipped by many to be the first PL sacking so he should've been in the running.

 

Brentford's Frank should've won it.

 

I think all the awards this year have been bad. KDB only started 25 games and he won player of the season. IMO Son or Salah should've won that.

 

Saka easily YPOTY over Foden. Played way more. More crucial to his team. More goals. More assists. Robbed.

[Happinesstan]

40 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

Vieira was tipped by many to be the first PL sacking so he should've been in the running.

 

Brentford's Frank should've won it.

 

I think all the awards this year have been bad. KDB only started 25 games and he won player of the season. IMO Son or Salah should've won that.

 

Saka easily YPOTY over Foden. Played way more. More crucial to his team. More goals. More assists. Robbed.

Yeah, it stinks. All about the brand though, innit? Best team got to have the best players or things look weird.

[SUPERTOON]

1 hour ago, The College Dropout said:

Vieira was tipped by many to be the first PL sacking so he should've been in the running.

 

Brentford's Frank should've won it.

 

I think all the awards this year have been bad. KDB only started 25 games and he won player of the season. IMO Son or Salah should've won that.

 

Saka easily YPOTY over Foden. Played way more. More crucial to his team. More goals. More assists. Robbed.

Agreed on KDB, pretty sure I read somewhere he didn’t have a goal or assist until December either.

[Cronky]

1 hour ago, SUPERTOON said:

Agreed on KDB, pretty sure I read somewhere he didn’t have a goal or assist until December either.

 

You can make a case for a number of players, but when De Bruyne is moving forward with the ball, there is no opposition player who fills me with a stronger sense of dread.

[The College Dropout]

2 hours ago, Happinesstan said:

Yeah, it stinks. All about the brand though, innit? Best team got to have the best players or things look weird.

But it looks weirder when the best team sweep all the awards. It makes the league look useless.

 

The 2 individual awards went to players that didn't start 26 games. Manager of the year finished exactly where you would expect his team to finish.

 

How many players have scored 20+ non-penalty goals in a 38 game season?

[1964]

7 minutes ago, Cronky said:

 

You can make a case for a number of players, but when De Bruyne is moving forward with the ball, there is no opposition player who fills me with a stronger sense of dread.

One of our forwards does tho, Chris Wood

[KaKa]

3 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

Vieira was tipped by many to be the first PL sacking so he should've been in the running.

 

Brentford's Frank should've won it.

 

I think all the awards this year have been bad. KDB only started 25 games and he won player of the season. IMO Son or Salah should've won that.

 

Saka easily YPOTY over Foden. Played way more. More crucial to his team. More goals. More assists. Robbed.

 

Son gets no respect man. It's astonishing.

[TRon]

6 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

Son gets no respect man. It's astonishing.

 

Especially since he's been performing year after year for Spurs whether they are doing well or comparatively struggling. There seems to be this perception that it's okay to acknowledge him as a wonderful player, but somehow he should never be seriously considered as the best in the league.

[Guest HTT II]

I’d honestly rather sign Son over Kane!

[Happinesstan]

1 hour ago, The College Dropout said:

But it looks weirder when the best team sweep all the awards. It makes the league look useless.

 

The 2 individual awards went to players that didn't start 26 games. Manager of the year finished exactly where you would expect his team to finish.

 

How many players have scored 20+ non-penalty goals in a 38 game season?

I'm assuming Messi gets all the awards in La Liga. But I don't know. I think if it's not somebody that is recognised on the world stage it makes it look like we don't have the best players in the world.

[NEEJ]

[Rich]

2 hours ago, Happinesstan said:

I'm assuming Messi gets all the awards in La Liga. But I don't know. I think if it's not somebody that is recognised on the world stage it makes it look like we don't have the best players in the world.

 

[Kid Icarus]

My lass's dad was around briefly before and it was the first time I'd seen him since Arsenal at home. I honestly thought he was going to start crying the way he was talking about Howe  He absolutely loves the bloke, talking about how intelligent he is and how he's brought everyone together and made them happy, with a massive smile on his face.

 

I know it's just some daft little anecdote but it's class seeing the older generation absolutely chuffed with everything at the moment 

[The College Dropout]

On 27/05/2022 at 15:49, Happinesstan said:

I'm assuming Messi gets all the awards in La Liga. But I don't know. I think if it's not somebody that is recognised on the world stage it makes it look like we don't have the best players in the world.

Yes I think this a big part of it. 
 

KDB is pushed as this generational talent in a way Son and Salah aren’t.  But it doesn’t make sense that he won it last year ahead of Kane too. 

[Cronky]

16 hours ago, Kid Icarus said:

My lass's dad was around briefly before and it was the first time I'd seen him since Arsenal at home. I honestly thought he was going to start crying the way he was talking about Howe  He absolutely loves the bloke, talking about how intelligent he is and how he's brought everyone together and made them happy, with a massive smile on his face.

 

I know it's just some daft little anecdote but it's class seeing the older generation absolutely chuffed with everything at the moment 

 

As an old cry-baby myself, your post did make me think about the impact that Eddie is making.

 

It feels like for many years, the lack of success and the sense of desperation behind the search for it, have created a difficult, dysfunctional air around the club, at all levels. The club has kept on shooting itself in the foot, creating disunity, resentment and making itself a bit of a laughing stock at times. The longer that's gone on, the more difficult it's been to break out of that cycle.

 

But now it feels like, after so many years of hoping for a Messiah, we've got a softly-spoken Mr Ordinary who's coming up with the answers. And with that new spirit that he's generating, somehow I think if the opportunity for success does come round, we'll be ready to take it.

[PauloGeordio]

22 minutes ago, Cronky said:

 

As an old cry-baby myself, your post did make me think about the impact that Eddie is making.

 

It feels like for many years, the lack of success and the sense of desperation behind the search for it, have created a difficult, dysfunctional air around the club, at all levels. The club has kept on shooting itself in the foot, creating disunity, resentment and making itself a bit of a laughing stock at times. The longer that's gone on, the more difficult it's been to break out of that cycle.

 

But now it feels like, after so many years of hoping for a Messiah, we've got a softly-spoken Mr Ordinary who's coming up with the answers. And with that new spirit that he's generating, somehow I think if the opportunity for success does come round, we'll be ready to take it.

Eddie Howe to be the 1st English manager to win the Premier League title! 
nailing my colours to the mast! 

[Hhtoon]

He never takes any credit but always willing to put his hands up. It's absolutely refreshing after the smugness and slippery shoulders from the likes of Pards and Bruce. 

[PauloGeordio]

4 minutes ago, Hhtoon said:

He never takes any credit but always willing to put his hands up. It's absolutely refreshing after the smugness and slippery shoulders from the likes of Pards and Bruce. 

?? He has integrity 

[The Prophet]