Stottie Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 8 hours ago, mikejaxer said: Beating PSG and City in a week. Just Eddie Howe things. 4-1 against PSG, their heaviest ever group stage defeat, in only the second CL game Eddie Howe has ever attended. There is also some mad stat about no first half shot on target being the first time in ten years for PSG in all comps. That'll be over 500 matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 4 hours ago, Lotus said: Our shape is evolving. We don’t pedal to the metal press for the full game. We’re learning when to sit off and how to sit off. Getting compact, making it harder to play through the lines and then crowding and harassing the player receiving the ball if they do. Midfielders turning and getting to them and defenders stepping right into their faces. We’re also showing we can play through a tight midfield with little lay offs and one touch passing between the midfielders designed to get one of them a little bit more time to get their head up and progress the ball. Think the Milan game did something. We’ve changed since. Yeah, great post. A bit of fear crept in after the Liverpool game, but that's gone now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Think his tenure is completely epitomised by how he's handled Lascelles. Quite easily could have been a rift in the camp when the club captain barely gets picked for 2 years Instead he's continuously praised him in the media, established that he's still club captain and got him to produce 3 unbelievably good performances in the space of a week against elite opposition despite barely playing for two years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 1 minute ago, joeyt said: Think his tenure is completely epitomised by how he's handled Lascelles. Quite easily could have been a rift in the camp when the club captain barely gets picked for 2 years Instead he's continuously praised him in the media, established that he's still club captain and got him to produce 3 unbelievably good performances in the space of a week against elite opposition despite barely playing for two years When you look at Ten Hag's treatment of Maguire compared to Howe and Lascelles. Chalk and cheese. Both very similar scenarios and look at the difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) Gerrard and Mings too Edited October 5, 2023 by joeyt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Optimistic Nut said: When you look at Ten Hag's treatment of Maguire compared to Howe and Lascelles. Chalk and cheese. Both very similar scenarios and look at the difference. The man can turn water into wine. He’ll go on to be elite (he is in our book anyway) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 5 hours ago, Lotus said: Our shape is evolving. We don’t pedal to the metal press for the full game. We’re learning when to sit off and how to sit off. Getting compact, making it harder to play through the lines and then crowding and harassing the player receiving the ball if they do. Midfielders turning and getting to them and defenders stepping right into their faces. We’re also showing we can play through a tight midfield with little lay offs and one touch passing between the midfielders designed to get one of them a little bit more time to get their head up and progress the ball. Think the Milan game did something. We’ve changed since. Top post. He's evolving us tactically and doing what has made him great so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: When you look at Ten Hag's treatment of Maguire compared to Howe and Lascelles. Chalk and cheese. Both very similar scenarios and look at the difference. Aye excellent man management and soft skills. It's not "cool" to have that as one of a manager's main attributes but it makes a world of difference. The atmosphere in the dressing room sounds superb. A team that is up for it vs. a team that isn't - will always win. The commitment Howe gets from the team is A1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 This lad's got potential but you have to be asking questions about the throwing away of a clean sheet in the circumstances. Unforgivable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 When he took over two years ago: As apposed to the table today: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, nemtizz said: 3 of last nights goal scorers were here before the takeover. Great testament to this man. ...and the other was playing for Wigan Athletic in League One 5 years ago as a 26 year old journeyman. Remarkable. Edited October 5, 2023 by 80 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Would also add that last night must have been special for Graeme Jones. I know for some reason quite a few on here don't like him but he's clearly an integral part of the coaching staff and he must have loved last night. He was even singing along to Hey Jude during the lap at the end Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) Its so nice to scan over this thread, when we had lost to Man City, Liverpool and Brighton. Some were so very fickle. Results are not always going to go our way. In sport you cannot win every single game. But lets not forget how awesome this man is, and what he has achieved. Even in the rough times. He is our manager. Edited October 5, 2023 by arnonel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) Probably the 500th time 'tactical masterclass' has been mentioned in here. But it really was. The absolute stones on him to press that high against these, leaving the back 4 up against 4 elite attacking players basically all night and having the midfield pushed right up, leaving some big gaps to exploit. Wow. It seemed like every time we went to press aggressively, it was the right time to do so and it worked or at least caused enough panic for them to lose it a few passes later. They would often gift us possession back when not actually under significant pressure at the time. 4-5 times in the first half we won it back after a good spell of pressing and they just made an unforced error due to the relentless nature of the front three/six. The defensive line was high at times and they actually caused us some bother when going back to front. But it just meant we could compress everything and make it hard for them to pass through us. They didn't seem to have an answer for it Then when we had to sit in deep and defend. We were solid and compact (Rafa TM) and made them work for pretty much every chance they managed to create. A lot of sideways and nothing possession from them. Edited October 5, 2023 by Lush Vlad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 38 minutes ago, joeyt said: Would also add that last night must have been special for Graeme Jones. I know for some reason quite a few on here don't like him but he's clearly an integral part of the coaching staff and he must have loved last night. He was even singing along to Hey Jude during the lap at the end Why don't people like Jones? That stint he had when he first came in and Bruce was using his diamond formation kept us from being relegated. Think he's a valuable piece of the staff. Has a lot of really good experience from his time with Martinez and Belgium too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 I think people associate him with the Bruce era and wanted him out. I didn't realise he was Jason Tindall's assistant at Bournemouth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Just now, joeyt said: I think people associate him with the Bruce era and wanted him out. I didn't realise he was Jason Tindall's assistant at Bournemouth Ah, okay. Seems harsh. Was brought in to help the big oaf, so wasn't really a Bruce guy. Yeah, the link with Tindall was why he was kept on I believe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 15 minutes ago, KaKa said: Why don't people like Jones? That stint he had when he first came in and Bruce was using his diamond formation kept us from being relegated. Think he's a valuable piece of the staff. Has a lot of really good experience from his time with Martinez and Belgium too Same as Lascelles he was apologetic on behalf of Ashley if i remember correct? Was not aware there were people who still had some resentment towards him, and assumed most people had let bygone be bygone. He's clearly an important figure with both playing and coaching team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
prefabtoon Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) Eddie Howe nominated for manager of the month for September. vote here. https://www.premierleague.com/news/3715973 Edited October 5, 2023 by prefabtoon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 3 hours ago, 54 said: When he took over two years ago: As apposed to the table today: That Longstaff almost chance at the end of the Milan game, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 He's taken players to levels I don't even they would have dreamed were possible. He obviously didn't do it single-handed because Schar, Trippier, and Burn were all great too, but watching Jamaal Lascelles bodying PSG's attack has to be one of the most remarkable things I've ever seen on a football pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 8 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: He's taken players to levels I don't even they would have dreamed were possible. He obviously didn't do it single-handed because Schar, Trippier, and Burn were all great too, but watching Jamaal Lascelles bodying PSG's attack has to be one of the most remarkable things I've ever seen on a football pitch. Hard to remember, but Lascelles was a very promising defender at 22/23. So much so that he became captain of the team. He had some rough years under Bruce but it looks like Howe is getting the potential he showed back then out of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 In spite of last night, I don't think we can give to much credit to Eddie Howe for the performance. You need to consider that the team won't really have adopted his style yet. We're only two years in and we'll still largely be piggybacking on Steve Bruce's vision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Aye, far too early to change the style of play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 11 minutes ago, 80 said: In spite of last night, I don't think we can give to much credit to Eddie Howe for the performance. You need to consider that the team won't really have adopted his style yet. We're only two years in and we'll still largely be piggybacking on Steve Bruce's vision. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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